Tyndale and defying the Pope

[MarkRohfrietsch]

someone should have told that to Cromwell

You are on your "A" game today!

 

[bbbbbbb]

someone should have told that to Cromwell

Are you implying that Cromwell's methods were identical to those of Rome?

 

[Rhamiel]

Are you implying that Cromwell's methods were identical to those of Rome?

no
Cromwell shot a man in the street for selling charms and trinkets

the Inquisition was never so brutal, there would be trials
considering that Texas executes far more people a year the Inquisition executed a year throughout all of Europe I think these trumped up accusations are kind of odd

 

[Targaryen]

Cromwell had a lot of innocent blood on his hands from his atrocities on the Irish Catholics, I think Cromwell deservedly needs to be classified a villiain

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

Cromwell had a lot of innocent blood on his hands from his atrocities on the Irish Catholics, I think Cromwell deservedly needs to be classified a villiain

A villain; a terorist and a heretic.

 

[Rick Otto]

Cromwell had a lot of innocent blood on his hands from his atrocities on the Irish Catholics, I think Cromwell deservedly needs to be classified a villiain

Plus, I've heard he was getting funding from questionable sources.

 

[Rick Otto]

A villain; a terorist and a heretic.

Heaven forbid we point words like those toward Rome, eh brother Mark?

 

[Rick Otto]

no
Cromwell shot a man in the street for selling charms and trinkets

the Inquisition was never so brutal, there would be trials
considering that Texas executes far more people a year the Inquisition executed a year throughout all of Europe I think these trumped up accusations are kind of odd

What? Thumbscrews were just part of pre-trial due process?

 

[Rick Otto]

Originally Posted by Rick Otto View Post
The beauty of Protestantism is that it is free to learn from these errors rather than sacrifice intellectual integrity to defend a seriously misguided notion of error free purity; and that based on ignorance of the gates of hell being the name of the place they were standing next to in Ceasarea.
From there proceeds willfull ignorance.

Protestantism is hardly free of error.

Why did you quote my post and then not respond to anything in it?

 

[Rhamiel]

What? Thumbscrews were just part of pre-trial due process?

torture was not a good thing
but it was an mistake that was common through out Europe
among Protestants and Catholics

 

[Rick Otto]

torture was not a good thing
but it was an mistake that was common through out Europe
among Protestants and Catholics

Yes, gravely serious ERROR was common among both those who officially admit it and those who officially don't.

 

[High Fidelity]

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[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by Rick Otto

The beauty of Protestantism is that it is free to learn from these errors rather than sacrifice intellectual integrity to defend a seriously misguided notion of error free purity; and that based on ignorance of the gates of hell being the name of the place they were standing next to in Ceasarea.
From there proceeds willfull ignorance.
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Protestantism is hardly free of error.

Why did you quote my post and then not respond to anything in it?

Hopefully he will get back to you on that.

He also didn't vote, and as far as I can see, he didn't give his view on Tyndale.



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[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by Rick Otto

What? Thumbscrews were just part of pre-trial due process?
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torture was not a good thing
but it was an mistake that was common through out Europe
among Protestants and Catholics

Yes, gravely serious ERROR was common among both those who officially admit it and those who officially don't.

Perhaps one reason I am tall is because I was put on the torture rack in another life.........

Tyndale was right in rejecting Roman Catholicism

104 66.24%
Tyndale was wrong in rejecting Roman Catholicism

17 10.83%

Tyndale was a heretic

24 15.29%

Who the heck was Tyndale?

12 7.64%


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[ron4shua]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Hus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_burned_as_heretics
http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history/william-tyndale.html
http://www.history.com/topics/thirty-years-war

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Hus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_burned_as_heretics
http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history/william-tyndale.html
http://www.history.com/topics/thirty-years-war

Thanks for those links. So where did the practice of burning heretics at the stakes develop?

http://www.christianforums.com/threads/the-burning-of-heretics.7799778/
The Burning of Heretics

Now one of the defenses I tend to hear about the Medieval Catholic Church was that it was the State that caused people to be burned at the stake for holding a heretical belief.

However if in the modern day there was a country that still had Catholicism as its state religion and enacted laws that burned heretics and non-Catholics for their beliefs I can almost guarantee that the Pope would state that this was sinful and not following Catholic teaching.

So what does that make of everyone in the Middle Ages? Is every Pope and priest that allowed the torture and killing of heretics now in Hell? Wouldn't that include St. Thomas More who the Church states is in Heaven right now, after all he ordered the death of heretics did he not?

Even if the Church did not personally burn heretics at the stake, it certainly supported the practice:

http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Leo10/l10exdom.htm

Note the above quote was from a list of heresies the Pope was accusing Luther of espousing. In other words, Leo X declared it a heresy to say that it is against God's will to burn heretics.

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[Tallguy88]

You quoted my post from over a year and a half ago.

 

[Rick Otto]

You quoted my post from over a year and a half ago.

You've become timeless that way.
Side effect of being priceless. Get used to it. He loves to take out old pearls and watch them glistening e n in the sunlight..

 

[ron4shua]

http://www.catholic.com/tracts/the-inquisition
http://www.ewtn.com/vexperts/showre...00&Author=&Keyword=heretics&pgnu=2&groupnum=0
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07256b.htm
http://www.ironmaidencommentary.com/?url=album10_xfactor/inquisition&lang=eng&link=albums

 

[Berean777]

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