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You say that character and merit won't do it. For example, for professional basketball whites are in such low percentages because of the color of their skin.
There’s a disparity in the rate of BIPOC CEOs, but that’s “okay” because white folk are disproportionately disfavored on teams in the National Basketball Association?

O….kay.
 
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Exactly. It's not important. I share the dream of Martin Luther King Jr.:
"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."
Crt shows exactly that, sadly, skin colour is important.
 
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The heart of DEI is most certainly not that we should love one's neighbor as oneself. The heart of DEI is that every one is equal regardless of the merits of one's qualities, skills, talents, experience, and qualifications.
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Crt shows exactly that, sadly, skin colour is important.
"Critical Race Theory" is a spinoff of the Marxist "Critical Theory." It replaces class envy and hatred with race envy and hatred. CRT promotes conflict. I probably have watched the educational conflicts in Virginia more than any other state, a state where Democrats are in the majority but some are realizing the reality and danger of the hard left ideologies being pushed in schools. Still it concerns me that Trump did not win that state. Here's a relevant article:
 
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You say that character and merit won't do it. For example, for professional basketball whites are in such low percentages because of the color of their skin.

Do you believe that the majority of professional basketball players being African-American means that racism no longer exists in America?

How do you explain these statistics?


The 118th Congress comprises 25% voting members who are racial or ethnic minorities, while 42% of Americans identify as such.

As of the most recent data, about 28% of state legislators in the United States are minorities

Currently, 6 out of 50 U.S. governors (approximately 12%) are racial or ethnic minorities.

As of August 2024, about 26% of federal judges are racial or ethnic minorities.

In 2024, around 11% of Fortune 500 CEOs are racial or ethnic minorities.

By 2022, approximately 27.4% of college and university presidents in the United States were racial or ethnic minorities.

As of 2022, about 27.7% of TV news employees in the United States are racial or ethnic minorities.

As of the most recent data, about 20% of public school teachers in the United States are minorities.
 
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Do you believe that the majority of professional basketball players being African-American means that racism no longer exists in America?

How do you explain these statistics?


The 118th Congress comprises 25% voting members who are racial or ethnic minorities, while 42% of Americans identify as such.

As of the most recent data, about 28% of state legislators in the United States are minorities

Currently, 6 out of 50 U.S. governors (approximately 12%) are racial or ethnic minorities.

As of August 2024, about 26% of federal judges are racial or ethnic minorities.

In 2024, around 11% of Fortune 500 CEOs are racial or ethnic minorities.

By 2022, approximately 27.4% of college and university presidents in the United States were racial or ethnic minorities.

As of 2022, about 27.7% of TV news employees in the United States are racial or ethnic minorities.

As of the most recent data, about 20% of public school teachers in the United States are minorities.
Many of those areas are dominated by liberals who hire the teachers and the journalists. For example:
How predominant racism is among liberals, or any group, is hard to quantify. I think the main problem is the certain groups, particularly those in poverty, are not getting the education they deserve. Most of the groups are live under local Democrat rule, and after four years of solid Biden policies, and all of that DEI and CRT, the result speaks for itself.. To improve the situation we need school choice, bad teachers thrown out, discipline in the classrooms with victimhood not accepted as an excuse, the restoration of the family and the promotion of Judeo/Christian values. That means ideally a family with a dad and mom at home. We need to crack down on juvenile crime. Police walking the beat and kids who commit crimes reached early. Petty theft from stores, jumping the turnstiles to transist system, breaking windows, etc. need to be taken seriously with real consequences for children. Not intervening means so many of our children end up in gangs and by the time they receive jail time it is too late for most.
 
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Many of those areas are dominated by liberals who hire the teachers and the journalists. For example:
How predominant racism is among liberals, or any group, is hard to quantify. I think the main problem is the certain groups, particularly those in poverty, are not getting the education they deserve. Most of the groups are live under local Democrat rule, and after four years of solid Biden policies, and all of that DEI and CRT, the result speaks for itself.. To improve the situation we need school choice, bad teachers thrown out, discipline in the classrooms with victimhood not accepted as an excuse, the restoration of the family and the promotion of Judeo/Christian values. That means ideally a family with a dad and mom at home. We need to crack down on juvenile crime. Police walking the beat and kids who commit crimes reached early. Petty theft from stores, jumping the turnstiles to transist system, breaking windows, etc. need to be taken seriously with real consequences for children. Not intervening means so many of our children end up in gangs and by the time they receive jail time it is too late for most.
Yes, there are all kinds of reasons not to fund public schools equitably. Let us know how they work out.
 
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The heart of DEI is most certainly not that we should love one's neighbor as oneself. The heart of DEI is that every one is equal regardless of the merits of one's qualities, skills, talents, experience, and qualifications.
What?
Geez.
That's how God looks at us.

That's not how WE are supposed to look at each other!!
 
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Many of those areas are dominated by liberals who hire the teachers and the journalists. For example:
How predominant racism is among liberals, or any group, is hard to quantify. I think the main problem is the certain groups, particularly those in poverty, are not getting the education they deserve. Most of the groups are live under local Democrat rule, and after four years of solid Biden policies, and all of that DEI and CRT, the result speaks for itself.. To improve the situation we need school choice, bad teachers thrown out, discipline in the classrooms with victimhood not accepted as an excuse, the restoration of the family and the promotion of Judeo/Christian values. That means ideally a family with a dad and mom at home. We need to crack down on juvenile crime. Police walking the beat and kids who commit crimes reached early. Petty theft from stores, jumping the turnstiles to transist system, breaking windows, etc. need to be taken seriously with real consequences for children. Not intervening means so many of our children end up in gangs and by the time they receive jail time it is too late for most.

None of these has anything to do with why The 118th Congress comprises 25% voting members who are racial or ethnic minorities or why only 6 out of 50 U.S. governors (approximately 12%) are racial or ethnic minorities.

But these statistics relate to racism and discrimination.
 
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the restoration of the family and the promotion of Judeo/Christian values. That means ideally a family with a dad and mom at home. We need to crack down on juvenile crime. Police walking the beat and kids who commit crimes reached early.
Seventy percent of evangelical Americans voted for and elected a man who had been divorced twice and married three times. This does not align with the traditional Christian family value of having "dad and mom" at home.

Evangelical Christians lost credibility on "family values" by electing a twice-divorced man as their leader.
 
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Seventy percent of evangelical Americans voted for and elected a man who had been divorced twice and married three times. This does not align with the traditional Christian family value of having "dad and mom" at home.

Evangelical Christians lost credibility on "family values" by electing a twice-divorced man as their leader.
I don't know much specifically about evangelical Christians. But I do know that many black mothers are unwed. Barack Obama spoke out about the lack of dads in black families, and I hope that changes.
 
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None of these has anything to do with why The 118th Congress comprises 25% voting members who are racial or ethnic minorities or why only 6 out of 50 U.S. governors (approximately 12%) are racial or ethnic minorities.

But these statistics relate to racism and discrimination.
Why do you think that? Barack Obama had very radical ideas, is black, and was elected president.
 
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Many of those areas are dominated by liberals who hire the teachers and the journalists. For example:
How predominant racism is among liberals, or any group, is hard to quantify. I think the main problem is the certain groups, particularly those in poverty, are not getting the education they deserve. Most of the groups are live under local Democrat rule, and after four years of solid Biden policies, and all of that DEI and CRT, the result speaks for itself.. To improve the situation we need school choice, bad teachers thrown out, discipline in the classrooms with victimhood not accepted as an excuse, the restoration of the family and the promotion of Judeo/Christian values. That means ideally a family with a dad and mom at home. We need to crack down on juvenile crime. Police walking the beat and kids who commit crimes reached early. Petty theft from stores, jumping the turnstiles to transist system, breaking windows, etc. need to be taken seriously with real consequences for children. Not intervening means so many of our children end up in gangs and by the time they receive jail time it is too late for most.

Barack Obama neither represents Christianity nor promotes "family values."

In post #127, you mentioned promoting the Judeo-Christian value of "family with a dad and mom at home." Do you believe President-Elect Trump represents that value?
 
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Why do you think that? Barack Obama had very radical ideas, is black, and was elected president.

Do you believe that having one Black president out of 46 US presidents means that racism no longer exists in America?
 
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Barack Obama neither represents Christianity nor promotes "family values."

In post #127, you mentioned promoting the Judeo-Christian value of "family with a dad and mom at home." Do you believe President-Elect Trump represents that value?
As a choice between Joe Biden and Donald Trump (and Kamala promoted the same polices as Joe) Trump was the better candidate for family values and Judeo/Christian values.
 
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As a choice between Joe Biden and Donald Trump (and Kamala promoted the same polices as Joe) Trump was the better candidate for family values and Judeo/Christian values.

I do not disagree with your statement. Perhaps President Trump is a better choice than Secretary Clinton, President Biden, or Vice President Harris.

However, voting for President Trump has affected the perceived credibility of Christians who advocate for family values. Scripture says

For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world and lose his own soul? Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?”.
 
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I do not disagree with your statement. Perhaps President Trump is a better choice than Secretary Clinton, President Biden, or Vice President Harris.

However, voting for President Trump has affected the perceived credibility of Christians who advocate for family values. Scripture says

For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world and lose his own soul? Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?”.
I'm big on voting for alternative candidates for president if they are the better candidate, three or four times I have voted for a candidates not of either of the two major parties. One election I remember I was in less than 2 percent of the population who did so. So too you just don't vote for a person based upon their past, people do change and we are all sinners.
 
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None of these has anything to do with why The 118th Congress comprises 25% voting members who are racial or ethnic minorities or why only 6 out of 50 U.S. governors (approximately 12%) are racial or ethnic minorities.

But these statistics relate to racism and discrimination.
I believe this highlights one of the problems with DEI and CRT - that statistical variation is blamed on racism and discrimination without presenting any evidence that these are what caused it.

DEI does this kind of nose-counting and simply asserts that it is due to racism. If colleges and universities are going to teach some theory, they have to be sure that it is not based on assumptions but verified facts. "Systemic racism" is an assumption.

Most black children in the US are born out of wedlock, and most grow up without the long-term presence of a father figure in the home. Being raised without a father correlates with practically every negative outcome you can name - academic under-achievement, lifetime income, criminal behavior, emotional disturbance, crime rates - you name it. And this is true for all races - white or black or Hispanic or Asian or transgender Eskimo "I-don't-fit-into-your-outmoded-system" Rosicrucians. There's just a lot more of it with blacks, and a lot less with whites and Jewish people and Asians (especially them - they tend to out-perform everyone else, even if they are descended from coolies in California or first-generation immigrants who don't speak English at home).

Yet black under-achievement has to be because of racism, even if the same things happen to other races who make the same mistakes. If the system is rigged in favor of white males, howcum Asians aren't disadvantaged? Apart from blacktivists and demagogues who want to eliminate merit as the basis for selection, because they are uncomfortably aware that children of unwed mothers are going to finish near the back of the pack no matter how hard you blame it on the fact that George Washington owned slaves or we had segregated toilets fifty years ago.

I am old enough to have encountered people who screw up their lives and then try to assign me the blame, and tell me what I have to do and say and think to fix their problems for them. No thanks.

I don't automatically vote for someone based on the color of their hide. They gotta have something more than that. If that gets me called a racist, sure, whatever.

Regards,
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