Two-thirds of US colleges, universities require DEI classes to graduate: report

[PloverWing]

And they are. The question is why do white people have to understand it if it doesn't affect them.

Because if I'm doing something that harms other people, I want to stop doing it.

 

[rambot]

Because if I'm doing something that harms other people, I want to stop doing it.

Me too.

But they don't think they are hurting other people and if they are it's their fault for being too sensitive.

 

[Say it aint so]

"Speech First investigated 248 colleges and universities across every state, including Washington, D.C., representing a diverse array of
campus types. The findings indicate that a significant majority (67%) of these institutions mandate DEI academic courses to satisfy general education requirements. Among the 165 establishments we identified that enforce these requirements, 98 are public institutions, and 67 are private institutions. Furthermore, our research team examined the learning outcomes of qualifying DEI courses within 51 of the aforementioned 165 universities—comprising one from each state, in addition to Washington, D.C. The inquiry revealed that students are subjected to courses advocating far-left ideological perspectives and pushing far-left political advocacy."

https://speechfirst.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/DEIReport.pdf

Funny they provided example of classes, and if they were mandatory one would think given the university examples, they would provide one in example.

 

[Say it aint so]

Incorrect. Conservatives have pushed hard for schools to teach basic English and math. Sub-standard teachers need to be removed, with the tenure system eliminated. A voucher system would give poor children a chance to go to quality schools. The left has fought these initiatives as our children keep falling behind children in so many other countries. Teaching children that they are victims because of their race does great harm to the kids. For example, we have a large Somalian population here that does not do well. Nigerians do very well, I will post an article showing some of the reasons behind their success. Obviously race is not the difference, but it goes against the left's teaching of victimhood.

https://medium.com/@joecarleton/why-nigerian-immigrants-are-the-most-successful-ethnic-group-in-the-u-s-23a7ea5a0832

Some states do have voucher systems. You can find them at the bottom of state education rankings. Clearly not the solution.

 

[iluvatar5150]

I think it just boils down to white conservatives just not being interested in learning about the minority experience in America and assuming it's just like their own life.

I think it’s deeper than that that’s not exclusive to racial issues. There’s something going on where folks balk at any sorts of claims of pain or injustice that they haven’t personally witnessed.

 

[Pommer]

We as a nation reached the point where people like Barack Obama and Oprah Winfrey and Tiger Woods became successful in areas previously dominated by whites.

Pointing to outliers to fashion an argument that “it’s all better nowadays!”, disregards both the outlier nature of these folks and the areas in which they excelled are still dominated by white people.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

No. What has happened is that radical elements of groups like transgenders, etc. have gone way beyond wanting to be accepted, they want their way of life to dominate this country, a country founded upon Judeo/Christian values. Thus they subject little children to drag queen shows. Radical transgenders want to change in front of girls in girls locker rooms, They wish to push back all of the progress going back to Billie Jean King in women's sports. It is part of the left's movement to radically change America. The Supreme Court ruling against discriminating against Asian students because of their race didn't stop them. They promote racial discrimination by pushing the concepts of white privilege and systemic racism.

The United States has made significant progress since the era of slavery and Jim Crow laws. However, denying the existence of systemic racism in America is equivalent to denying American history.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

There is discrimination and racism inherent in DEI and CRT. The majority of states have bills to either halt or curtail these dangerous divisive philosophies.

DEI programs at colleges or American institutes may not teach everything in a positive light and can certainly be improved. However, claiming that DEI is inherently discriminatory or racist is false.

 

[Valletta]

DEI programs at colleges or American institutes may not teach everything in a positive light and can certainly be improved. However, claiming that DEI is inherently discriminatory or racist is false.

"If you look at the way this has actually been implemented across the country, DEI is better viewed as standing for discrimination, exclusion and indoctrination," DeSantis said during a news conference at New College of Florida in Sarasota. "And that has no place in our public institutions."

https://www.npr.org/2023/05/15/1176210007/florida-ron-desantis-dei-ban-diversity

I agree with DeSantis, what is being taught under the auspices of DEI is the problem.

 

[Valletta]

Pointing to outliers to fashion an argument that “it’s all better nowadays!”, disregards both the outlier nature of these folks and the areas in which they excelled are still dominated by white people.

Professional basketball is still dominated by blacks. I'm not saying there is zero racism within these areas, maybe Caitlin Clark was not well accepted by a few other basketball players, but overall there is no racial barrier today to becoming president or being a talk show host or being a professional athlete. As to education, I've pointed out that Nigerians that come to the U.S. exceed in academics. It seems obvious that it is not the color of their skin that matters. Before we became SO politically correct and victimhood became an entrenched mantra, Barack Obama expressed the major problem in so many U.S. black communities:

Obama’s Father’s Day Remarks (Published 2008)

www.nytimes.com

 

[KCfromNC]

"If you look at the way this has actually been implemented across the country, DEI is better viewed as standing for discrimination, exclusion and indoctrination," DeSantis said during a news conference at New College of Florida in Sarasota. "And that has no place in our public institutions."

https://www.npr.org/2023/05/15/1176210007/florida-ron-desantis-dei-ban-diversity

Is there someone who isn't using scary acronyms to further his political goals that we could hear from?

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

"If you look at the way this has actually been implemented across the country, DEI is better viewed as standing for discrimination, exclusion and indoctrination," DeSantis said during a news conference at New College of Florida in Sarasota. "And that has no place in our public institutions."

https://www.npr.org/2023/05/15/1176210007/florida-ron-desantis-dei-ban-diversity

I agree with DeSantis, what is being taught under the auspices of DEI is the problem.

Governor Ron DeSantis is a politician appealing to his base. His opinion lacks significance. Agreement with Governor DeSantis does not necessarily make it a fact.

The DEI program promotes the respect of diversity by encouraging the inclusion of individuals regardless of their race, color, gender, or sexuality. It is regrettable that some Americans have objections to such teachings.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

Professional basketball is still dominated by blacks. I'm not saying there is zero racism within these areas, maybe Caitlin Clark was not well accepted by a few other basketball players, but overall there is no racial barrier today to becoming president or being a talk show host or being a professional athlete. As to education, I've pointed out that Nigerians that come to the U.S. exceed in academics. It seems obvious that it is not the color of their skin that matters. Before we became SO politically correct and victimhood became an entrenched mantra, Barack Obama expressed the major problem in so many U.S. black communities:

Obama’s Father’s Day Remarks (Published 2008)

www.nytimes.com

Race relations in the United States have improved since the era of slavery, Jim Crow, and segregation. However, racism persists, as highlighted by these significant statistics.

The 118th Congress comprises 25% voting members who are racial or ethnic minorities, while 42% of Americans identify as such.

Currently, 6 out of 50 U.S. governors (approximately 12%) are racial or ethnic minorities.

As of August 2024, about 26% of federal judges are racial or ethnic minorities.

In 2024, around 11% of Fortune 500 CEOs are racial or ethnic minorities.

By 2022, approximately 27.4% of college and university presidents in the United States were racial or ethnic minorities.

As of 2022, about 27.7% of TV news employees in the United States are racial or ethnic minorities.

The presence of an African American president does not indicate that the country has moved beyond racism. Racism continues to exist in America.

Victimhood can be a barrier in minority communities, and overcoming this mentality is important. However, this is only one reason why so many minorities face challenges. Some conservatives believe that if minorities overcome victimhood, all problems will be resolved, but this viewpoint oversimplifies the issue and does not address the broader societal inequalities that exist.

 

[rambot]

There you go. MAGAs don't want to be grouped by their race or the color of their skin. We are sick and tired of the racism and name-calling and divisiveness pushed by the left. A number of Democrats saw how our country was being destroyed by such ideology and crossed over party lines to get Trump elected.

1. Why don't you want to be grouped by the colour of your skin? Because you think it's not important?

Sadly though you're wrong and the evidence is in all the stories you are ignoring amd trying to repress.

 

[Valletta]

1. Why don't you want to be grouped by the colour of your skin? Because you think it's not important?

Sadly though you're wrong and the evidence is in all the stories you are ignoring amd trying to repress.

Exactly. It's not important. I share the dream of Martin Luther King Jr.:
"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

 

[Pommer]

"If you look at the way this has actually been implemented across the country, DEI is better viewed as standing for discrimination, exclusion and indoctrination," DeSantis said during a news conference at New College of Florida in Sarasota. "And that has no place in our public institutions."

https://www.npr.org/2023/05/15/1176210007/florida-ron-desantis-dei-ban-diversity

I agree with DeSantis, what is being taught under the auspices of DEI is the problem.

“Outlawing” types of thinking isn’t usually beneficial in an open and free society.

 

[FAITH-IN-HIM]

Exactly. It's not important. I share the dream of Martin Luther King Jr.:
"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

yet , In 2024, around 11% of Fortune 500 CEOs are racial or ethnic minorities. So much for the content of the characters and merit.

 

[Valletta]

yet , In 2024, around 11% of Fortune 500 CEOs are racial or ethnic minorities. So much for the content of the characters and merit.

You say that character and merit won't do it. For example, for professional basketball whites are in such low percentages because of the color of their skin.

 

[Valletta]

“Outlawing” types of thinking isn’t usually beneficial in an open and free society.

No one is outlawing thinking, they just don't want taxpayer money to be used for political indoctrination into neo-Marxist ideologies.

 

[Pommer]

No one is outlawing thinking, they just don't want taxpayer money to be used for political indoctrination into neo-Marxist ideologies.

All any “critical theory” does is to call into question “why are things the way that they are” from another perspective.

Yes, Marx used his own version.
Critical theory isn’t Marxist per se but sometimes uses a similar framework as what Marx used.

But no, the sky falls when that happens.