Two-thirds of US colleges, universities require DEI classes to graduate: report

[Valletta]

He wasn't talking about MAGAs generally, but a specific subset of of conservatives--who might not even be all of them supporters of MAGA.

Actually he specifically named "white conservatives." He probably never considered that it is possible a higher percentage of "black liberals" are racists than "white conservatives." To me it doesn't matter what color or political persuasion racists are, I am flat out against racism.

 

[BCP1928]

Actually he specifically named "white conservatives." He probably never considered that it is possible a higher percentage of "black liberals" are racists than "white conservatives."

Probably not just for the purpose or this discussion. On further reflection it would still seem highly unlikely, though.

To me it doesn't matter what color or political persuasion racists are, I am flat out against racism.

You are certainly flat out against being considered a racist, I'll give you that.

 

[Valletta]

...like slavery...and (ironically enough) freedom.

Slavery is not a Judeo/Christian value. Slavery could be found world-wide going back long before Jesus walked on this earth. It was Judeo/Christian values within the Republican Party that led to Republicans abolishing slavery in the United States with Abraham Lincoln leading the way.

 

[BCP1928]

Slavery is not a Judeo/Christian value. Slavery could be found world-wide going back long before Jesus walked on this earth. It was Judeo/Christian values within the Republican Party that led to Republicans abolishing slavery in the United States with Abraham Lincoln leading the way.

Of course, slavery is not the same as racism.

 

[Valletta]

Of course, slavery is not the same as racism.

He never said it was. He implied that slavery was somehow a Judeo/Christian value. That;s why I straightened him out. Many people are ignorant of the real history of our country.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Is DEI the new "woke" and CRT? Just the latest in right wing scare words to make aging white baby boomers afraid of black and brown people?

-CryptoLutheran

 

[hedrick]

Give the guy a break. CRT has created even more evil that he hasn't gotten to yet. It teaches intersectionality. For example, that a black woman's experience of racism might be different than a black man's. It discusses the possibility that quite a bit of what is felt as racism is based on class rather than race. It even reveals that there are other aspects of racism, for example that blacks and Hispanics have racial issues.

We e gotten to the point where I can’t tell what is sarcastic and what isn’t. These things seem obviously true.

 

[Valletta]

Is DEI the new "woke" and CRT? Just the latest in right wing scare words to make aging white baby boomers afraid of black and brown people?

-CryptoLutheran

A lot of aging white baby boomers are liberals, Democrats have kept that block in line by scaring them, telling them that Republicans want to take away their Social Security and Medicare. While there is racism inherent in DEI and CRT I would guess the majority of baby boomers are not subject to extensive academic instruction in those subjects. I can tell you that people are going to continue to fight back against being forced to accept racism:

Appeals court reinstates doctor's First Amendment retaliation suit for challenging CRT, BLM

Judge usurped a jury by finding hospital board that removed Tara Gustilo as OB-GYN chair didn't consider her Facebook posts, which were prominently featured in "information packet" against her, 8th Circuit says.

justthenews.com

 

[BCP1928]

We e gotten to the point where I can’t tell what is sarcastic and what isn’t. These things seem obviously true.

It's what CRT studies and one of the reasons it's hated.

 

[rambot]

That's the opposite of the DEI taught in schools that so many of us oppose. In the real-life DEI they talk about equity and "restorative justice."
Equity and restorative justice mean making up for alleged discrimination, the ideology that kept top academic-achieving Asians out of our leading universities.

That's not what restorative justice means. You give an example of restorative justice but that's not the definition.

 

[ViaCrucis]

We e gotten to the point where I can’t tell what is sarcastic and what isn’t. These things seem obviously true.

There are a lot of things that are obviously true which, even 20 years ago, wouldn't have even been controversial really. But because there are more non-white people speaking out against white privilege and power, speaking out against institutional racism there is a hyperbolic reaction to demonize anyone who says common sense and obviously true things. Because the goal is to silence the voices of non-white people and maintain white hegemony and power. The average person is unlikely to get behind it if you just say "we hate n-words", so the racism has to be more subtle. It's what we've been doing in this country forever. At one time it was "states rights", at another time it was "forced bussing", at another time it was "tough on crime".

But it's the same white hood and burning cross no matter how it's framed.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Fantine]

Slavery is not a Judeo/Christian value. Slavery could be found world-wide going back long before Jesus walked on this earth. It was Judeo/Christian values within the Republican Party that led to Republicans abolishing slavery in the United States with Abraham Lincoln leading the way.

Sometimes parties stray far from their roots.
Democrats passed the Voting Rights Act in the 1960s and angry southerners fled to the Republican Party--because Democrats supported racial justice. And ever since 2013, our Republican Supreme Court justices hacked away at the Voting Rights Act, and with each hack, red southern states removed voter protections. Did the Republican court-endorsed suppression laws result in enough suppression (1.6%) to move an election?
I guess Lincoln, after hugging Jimmy Carter abd saying, "Welcome, friend," is rolling over in his grave at how his party has changed.

 

[rambot]

There are transgenders who don't stop at saying they want to be accepted and would like a sports team for transgenders that competes against other transgenders.

And there are racists who would love to see every black person shot.
But I know not all racists want that.

That's acceptance. Insisting they changes in front of girls in girls locker rooms is pushing their beliefs on others--radical activism.

its really weird how you only give examples of m to f.


That's actually just them living their life. Is their existence an act of rebellion to you because it seems to be?

 

[ViaCrucis]

Sometimes parties stray far from their roots.
Democrats passed the Voting Rights Act in the 1960s and angry southerners fled to the Republican Party--because Democrats supported racial justice. And ever since 2013, our Republican Supreme Court justices gave hacked away at the Voting Rights Act, and with each hack, red southern states and remove voter protections. Did the Republican court-endorsed suppression laws result in enough suppression (1.6%) to move an election?
I guess Lincoln, after hugging Jimmy Carter abd saying, "Welcome, friend," is rolling over in his grave at how his party has changed.

And the only reason they fled to the Republican Party was because there was a concerted effort to win the vote in the fiercely Democrat-controlled South. The Southern Strategy is documented historical fact. Racism was deliberate choice by the Republican Party to win over southern racists who had been fiercely loyal to the Democratic Party since the days of the Civil War.

There was a time when Republicans was the party of Lincoln, the party of Reconstruction, the party of emancipation; they were the racial and social progressives. However Republicans eventually became the party of Big Business, and then the party of Segregation, and by the time Reagan was elected, was unrecognizeable to the party that it was a century earlier.

It was a deliberate choice to specifically cater to angry white racists who were upset that black people were now allowed to go tot he same public restrooms, attend the same schools, and drink from the same drinking fountains.

It's why MLK Jr was a registered Republican, and MLK III is a registered Democrat.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Valletta]

Sometimes parties stray far from their roots.
Democrats passed the Voting Rights Act in the 1960s and angry southerners fled to the Republican Party--because Democrats supported racial justice. And ever since 2013, our Republican Supreme Court justices hacked away at the Voting Rights Act, and with each hack, red southern states removed voter protections. Did the Republican court-endorsed suppression laws result in enough suppression (1.6%) to move an election?
I guess Lincoln, after hugging Jimmy Carter abd saying, "Welcome, friend," is rolling over in his grave at how his party has changed.

Joe Biden, who opposed busing black children to white schools, remained a Democrat. So did many others. Joe stood with one of the KKK leaders when he opposed busing. My mom never forgot arriving to her elementary school one morning and the American flag had been taken down and the KKK flag raised. Don't forget too that one of the leaders that Democrats today still adore FDR, a man who imprisoned American citizens of Japanese ancestry. Lincoln today would be proud the Republicans are speaking out and trying to rid our government of racism. Your history seems rather twisted. A higher percentage of Republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 than did Democrats. Senator Bryd, the Democrat that Joe Biden stood with to stop the busing of black children to white schools, tried to stop it and spoke for over 14 hours.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB1041302509432817073

 

[Fantine]

The U.S. has a sad history of human rights violations. In addition to slavery, every immigrant group that has ever come to our country has been persecuted to a degree.
Right now, I am saddened that after decades of moving towards enlightenment, America seems to be doubling down on discrimination towards people of color and other minority groups.
While I admire your strong research skills in finding aberrations in otherwise pretty spotless records, I suggest we work towards fairness and inclusion in our society.

 

[Valletta]

The U.S. has a sad history of human rights violations. In addition to slavery, every immigrant group that has ever come to our country has been persecuted to a degree.
Right now, I am saddened that after decades of moving towards enlightenment, America seems to be doubling down on discrimination towards people of color and other minority groups.
While I admire your strong research skills in finding aberrations in otherwise pretty spotless records, I suggest we work towards fairness and inclusion in our society.

Sadly the human race has a history of slavery and fighting and persecution amongst different cultures. The United States, and other countries like Great Britain and Mexico were leaders in abolishing slavery. The United States eventually became known as the "melting pot." We as a nation reached the point where people like Barack Obama and Oprah Winfrey and Tiger Woods became successful in areas previously dominated by whites. Unfortunately the ideology of victimhood along with DEI and CRT, much pushed by the Democratic Party leadership, have resulted in a step backwards. The Biden administration has been a nightmare for civil rights, the border policies have greatly increased human trafficking with so many migrants ending up in indentured servitude or slavery. President Trump and his supporters continue to ask for cooperation in rescuing the hundreds of thousands of trafficked women and children, but are being opposed by Democrat leaders in sanctuary areas. Urge your leaders to help.

 

[rambot]

We e gotten to the point where I can’t tell what is sarcastic and what isn’t. These things seem obviously true.

And they are. The question is why do white people have to understand it if it doesn't affect them.

 

[PloverWing]

Joe Biden, who opposed busing black children to white schools, remained a Democrat. So did many others. Joe stood with one of the KKK leaders when he opposed busing. My mom never forgot arriving to her elementary school one morning and the American flag had been taken down and the KKK flag raised. Don't forget too that one of the leaders that Democrats today still adore FDR, a man who imprisoned American citizens of Japanese ancestry. Lincoln today would be proud the Republicans are speaking out and trying to rid our government of racism. Your history seems rather twisted. A higher percentage of Republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 than did Democrats. Senator Bryd, the Democrat that Joe Biden stood with to stop the busing of black children to white schools, tried to stop it and spoke for over 14 hours.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB1041302509432817073

It's not really about my team vs your team. I also remember a time when Southern Democrats (as a group) were aligned with racist policies, and when there were progressive Republicans in Congress. Political coalitions rearrange themselves over time. It's about the policies themselves, and the attitudes underlying them.

If you agree that fully-funded, high-quality public schooling should be available for all black, white, and brown children, that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a good thing, and that harming people on account of non-white ethnicity is bad, then we have substantial agreement on some important issues.

 

[rambot]

Sadly the human race has a history of slavery and fighting and persecution amongst different cultures. The United States, and other countries like Great Britain and Mexico were leaders in abolishing slavery. The United States eventually became known as the "melting pot." We as a nation reached the point where people like Barack Obama and Oprah Winfrey and Tiger Woods became successful in areas previously dominated by whites. Unfortunately the ideology of victimhood along with DEI and CRT, much pushed by the Democratic Party leadership, have resulted in a step backwards. The Biden administration has been a nightmare for civil rights, the border policies have greatly increased human trafficking with so many migrants ending up in indentured servitude or slavery. President Trump and his supporters continue to ask for cooperation in rescuing the hundreds of thousands of trafficked women and children, but are being opposed by Democrat leaders in sanctuary areas. Urge your leaders to help.

The lenses that colour's your knowledge of history are quite opaque.