Two quick articles on human evolution:

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I agree. I was like that until after 15 years of denying evolution I finally studied it for about 6 months and became convinced that it was true. That was a hard thing at the time. I am in no way an expert in evolution but it is clear when most Christians deny it they do not know the evidence for it or how it actually works.
You should study more. There is no way cells formed from chemicals. NINE, NONE. cells are biomechanical machines. Please look up kinesins animation on you tube...these lil walking molecules drag things across cells in you, on self assembling highways in cell...and watch it and tell me this just one small faction of what goes on in cell is not designed.
 
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there is a clear distinction between humans and apes. Apes have under 650 cc brain and sameish length of arms and legs...humans have plus 850cc in brain and unequal length arms and legs, making it impossible to walk on all 4s.
Neither is a qualitative difference. Try something else.
 
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there is a clear distinction between humans and apes. Apes have under 650 cc brain and sameish length of arms and legs...humans have plus 850cc in brain and unequal length arms and legs, making it impossible to walk on all 4s.
There are a number of fossils that demonstrate transitions in the ape family of exactly these traits.
 
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You should study more. There is no way cells formed from chemicals. NINE, NONE. cells are biomechanical machines.
Please read a textbook on the evolution of cells and then we can discuss. Modern cells did not form from chemicals directly.

Please look up kinesins animation on you tube...these lil walking molecules drag things across cells in you, on self assembling highways in cell...and watch it and tell me this just one small faction of what goes on in cell is not designed.
Just because you think a cell is designed does not make it so. What is your evidence that they were designed? What is the criteria to determine design?
 
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If God designed everything then how can you know what a non designed object looks like or functions?
You couldn't.

Some like to think they can, but they can't.
 
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I agree. This is where ID fails unless they can produce the designer.
What if He doesn't want to cooperate?

Would seeing His effect count for cause-and-effect evidence of His existence?
 
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What if He doesn't want to cooperate?

Would seeing His effect count for cause-and-effect evidence of His existence?
That's what the ID people hoped for; faith isn't enough for them, they wanted science too, so they could force belief in their God on people who would otherwise not have been inclined to it.
 
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That's what the ID people hoped for; faith isn't enough for them, they wanted science too, so they could force belief in their God on people who would otherwise not have been inclined to it.
Interesting word choice.

Why do you say "force belief in their God on the people," rather than "present God to the people"?

If science is supposedly so convincing, why do atheists still exist?
 
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What if He doesn't want to cooperate?
Then we can never know if he exists.

Would seeing His effect count for cause-and-effect evidence of His existence?
If you can give sufficient evidence it is a god that is the cause.
 
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Interesting word choice.

Why do you say "force belief in their God on the people," rather than "present God to the people"?

They are Dominionists with a particular theology in mind and a political agenda to go with it.
If science is supposedly so convincing, why do atheists still exist?
Which should be a hint that science has little to do with whether one believes in a particular God or not.
 
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there is a clear distinction between humans and apes. Apes have under 650 cc brain and sameish length of arms and legs...humans have plus 850cc in brain and unequal length arms and legs, making it impossible to walk on all 4s.
All ape species are unique - that's what makes them separate species.
 
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You should study more. There is no way cells formed from chemicals. NINE, NONE. cells are biomechanical machines. Please look up kinesins animation on you tube...these lil walking molecules drag things across cells in you, on self assembling highways in cell...and watch it and tell me this just one small faction of what goes on in cell is not designed.
This is an 'argument from incredulity', which is a fallacy. The fact that you cannot conceive how cells could arise except by intelligent design is not an argument against them arising naturally.
 
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