Two nuns allegedly stole $500,000 for trips to Las Vegas, but the church doesn’t want to prosecute

[Presbyterian Continuist]

I can think of a good way to recoup the money! The Church could display a few relics, like Peter's little finger, a bit of wood from the cross, Mary's breast milk, in a museum at the Vatican and charge tourists a fee to view them! Great idea, eh?

Also, they could offer, for a handsome fee, to negotiate to get people's loved ones out of Purgatory.

I wonder why they haven't thought of that before!

 

[Chris V++]

500000 isn't theft it's GRAND THEFT. It's also embezzlement.
At some point doesn't the State's Attorney have a duty to prosecute, even though the victim decides not to press charges? What if these alleged nun thugs are blackmailing the Bishop? All this money was probably all donated, so they stole not only from the institution but from all the generous Catholics who donate weekly, allegedly that is.

 

[mark46]

What I said was the homosexual sexual abuse of children was more likely in the Catholic Church. I stand by that. Nothing in the article says anything different. BTW, do you believe that a third of non-Catholic clergy have homosexual orientation as the article says about Catholic priest. And, of course, homoseucality does not cause, and is to not likened to, sexual abuse.

You could start here.

The fact that you specifically mentioned Catholic ministers rather than ministers in general can reasonably taken as meaning that you believe that Catholic ministers are more likely to do it than non-Catholic, and that the Catholic Church is more likely to try to bury it than other denominations. I suggest that you have no real evidence for that, and invite you to prove it before singling out Catholic priests and the Catholic Church.

For what it's worth, the percentage of non-Catholic ministers I personally know of who engaged in that kind of behavior is greater than the percentage of Catholic priests I know of who did it - and every single one of the non-Catholic ministers were quietly shuffled about within their respective denominations. It's a problem in every denomination.

As for the topic of the thread, yeah, those nuns should face charges.

 

[Tom 1]

Another event where a woman stole a bag full of cash and hightailed it is interesting because she stopped at an isolated motel and got stabbed to death in the shower by a psycho guy who had the mummified corpse of his mother in the basement of the big house behind the motel!

Yes, I suppose you could say it didn't turn out quite so well for that lady.

 

[misput]

The larger the man made organization becomes, the more rotten it becomes. I do not believe God established these groups and certainly is not pleased with how they operate. Just like our government was not meant to be the huge rotten monstrosity it has become. Saying, my organization is no worse than yours is a feeble statement. This is why being a child of God is and always has been on a individual basis.

 

[rockytopva]

The larger the man made organization becomes, the more rotten it becomes. I do not believe God established these groups and certainly is not pleased with how they operate. Just like our government was not meant to be the huge rotten monstrosity it has become. Saying, my organization is no worse than yours is a feeble statement. This is why being a child of God is and always has been on a individual basis.

My favorite denominations were at the best during the war years. I am 56 years old and can remember back....

Civil War Generation - Only through research
World War I Generation - My Great Grandmothers
World War II Generation - My Grandmothers

And with my religion...

The Methodist - Were at their best during the Civil War Generation
The Pentecostal Holiness -Were at their best during the World War generations

The Pentecostal Holiness arose from the Methodist church of the 1800's and the methods of service were exactly like the Methodist of that time. It would be nice to go back in time and sit with the old timers at the Merrimac Pentecostal Holiness church. Old Evans Linkous used to sit on the front pew and weep like a baby. And if he looked back to catch the amazed look in my eye he would weep, "The Holy Ghost! The Holy Ghost!" And point to all the souls blessed around the altar. To the old timers the religion was accompanied with a, "Joy Unspeakable and Full of Glory!" You can hear Dallas shouting in the background in the video below. Dallas, Evans, and the singer, Preacher Vaught, have all moved on to Glory.

The revival type atmosphere died away with the old World War II generation. In its war generation I would have labeled the Methodist and Pentecostal superior. I am not saying these denominations are not Christian, backslidden, or apostate, what I am saying is that we do not have the same spirit that carried us through decades ago. I cannot say these denominations are now superior now the war generation have moved on to glory.

 

[Radagast]

The larger the man made organization becomes

I don't think that the Sisters of St. Joseph of Carondelet are a very large organisation, actually.

 

[Radagast]

500000 isn't theft it's GRAND THEFT. It's also embezzlement.
At some point doesn't the State's Attorney have a duty to prosecute, even though the victim decides not to press charges?

No. And if the victim decides not to press charges, there wouldn't be the evidence to convict, anyway.

All this money was probably all donated, so they stole not only from the institution but from all the generous Catholics who donate weekly, allegedly that is.

The money would have been school fees. But the school is going to be reimbursed, I understand.

 

[Radagast]

in a museum at the Vatican

There is already a museum at the Vatican. It's pretty good, actually, especially the various frescos.

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

There is already a museum at the Vatican. It's pretty good, actually, especially the various frescos.

It was a joke actually, because indulgences and relics were bones of contention with Martin Luther and were two of the factors that sparked the Reformation.

 

[Radagast]

It was a joke actually, because indulgences and relics were bones of contention with Martin Luther and were two of the factors that sparked the Reformation.

I got it, and didn't think it was all that funny.

But "relics were bones of contention," now, that's very clever.

 

[Blade]

Hmm well I read "Against thee, thee only, have I sinned, and done this evil in thy sight: that thou mightest be justified when thou speakest, and be clear when thou judgest."

Not my kids we are talking about.. I read where one talked about the fear of God.. now I dont believe that is mans kind of fear.. yet.. to freely talk about something one is not part of.. knows not the whole story but only what one has read... then knowing our sin is no better what so ever..

To know we almost demand..expect GOD to forgive us.. and NOT talk remember it any more. Yet.. look how some talk

Now unless we think they are not believers so.. who cares.. yet.. I see them not as MY KIDS..but that belong to a GOD... there not here.. I am sure the ones over them... have and will take care of this.. I will not add to it.. I treat others how I want to be treated.. my free choice.. praise GOD glory to Jesus.. just sharing ..forgive me if I offended.. never meant to

 

[Neostarwcc]

actually thats not true. if a person steals from "Me" i should have the right to prosocute but for justice to be served i should also have the right to forgive.

That is true and I partially agree with you. But it also doesn't seem fair that if I stole something from you I would go to Jail and nothing is being done to these nuns just because they're nuns. So how is that fair?

 

[misput]

I don't think that the Sisters of St. Joseph of Carondelet are a very large organisation, actually.

You missed my point but that is to be expected.

 

[Radagast]

and nothing is being done to these nuns just because they're nuns

Who says that "nothing is being done to these nuns"?

They are under religious discipline. I'm sure that their order has punishments of its own.

 

[Neostarwcc]

Who says that "nothing is being done to these nuns"?

They are under religious discipline. I'm sure that their order has punishments of its own.

I suppose. You're probably right.

 

[grasping the after wind]

If I rob a Casino for half a million dollars should I get off on the crime or should I do jail time? Why should the Nuns get off scot free when they committed a very serious crime. They need to go to court and do jail time. Several years at least in a state penitentiary. Half a million dollars is a lot of money to steal.

If the Casino does not press charges then you go scot free. That's just the way it works. If you have some emotional stake in seeing nuns in particular be punished for a crime( many of us that went to a Catholic school might have reasons to resent nuns) make sure that the next nun that steals something steals it from you personally and you can then press charges and get your revenge. Either that or you could try to start your own government and make laws as you see fit and not have to be upset by laws you feel don't punish nuns enough.

 

[Shawn Stuart]

If the Casino does not press charges then you go scot free.

No. The Police will charge you with a crime irregardless. It won’t matter if the Casino presses charges, the cops will still charge you on their own.

 

[Radagast]

No. The Police will charge you with a crime irregardless. It won’t matter if the Casino presses charges, the cops will still charge you on their own.

Theft is taking property without the owner's consent. If the owner won't testify, it's kind of hard to prosecute.

That's in contrast to crimes of violence, where you can prosecute based only on medical evidence.

Casinos tend to prefer their own sanctions, like banning you from coming back, or (if it's a mafia casino) sending someone to break your legs.

 

[StrivingFollower]

They'll be getting nun of that just punishment. Nu uh.