Two doves and two pigeons of Nativity

[James_Lai]

I think in this case whatever scenario you're imagining is very unlikely.

-CryptoLutheran

That wasn’t the point. You justify hypotheticals until shown what it actually means in reality. It’s a tragedy of intellectuals of all times…

How many times hypotheticals became reality in human history? Enough to be worried about any hypotheticals

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[ViaCrucis]

That wasn’t the point. You justify hypotheticals until shown what it actually means in reality.

How many times hypotheticals became reality in human history? Enough to be worried about any hypotheticals

I guess I just don't see the point in thinking that somehow a group of Jews will get a third temple built in Jerusalem, re-institute the priesthood and regular sacrifices, and then convince most of the world's Jews to get on board with that is a scenario to be worried about. Most religious Jews don't even believe a temple can exist in Jerusalem again until the Messiah comes. And if the real bona fide Messiah shows up to do that, and it wasn't Jesus this whole time, then I got much bigger things to think about.

Hypotheticals are fine, but I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do with yours. Yeah, I guess you're right, if somehow by some insane chain of circumcstances that did happen, it would probably mean the slaughter of a lot of animals.

And if the Illuminati were real and could weaponize the weather, that'd be pretty sucky too. But that's not something that worries me, because I don't believe there is some secret clandestine group controlling everything. By the same token, I really don't think we're going to have to worry about your scenario either.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[James_Lai]

I guess I just don't see the point in thinking that somehow a group of Jews will get a third temple built in Jerusalem, re-institute the priesthood and regular sacrifices, and then convince most of the world's Jews to get on board with that is a scenario to be worried about. Most religious Jews don't even believe a temple can exist in Jerusalem again until the Messiah comes. And if the real bona fide Messiah shows up to do that, and it wasn't Jesus this whole time, then I got much bigger things to think about.

Hypotheticals are fine, but I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do with yours. Yeah, I guess you're right, if somehow by some insane chain of circumcstances that did happen, it would probably mean the slaughter of a lot of animals.

And if the Illuminati were real and could weaponize the weather, that'd be pretty sucky too. But that's not something that worries me, because I don't believe there is some secret clandestine group controlling everything. By the same token, I really don't think we're going to have to worry about your scenario either.

-CryptoLutheran

I know, you don’t see my point or refuse to see it and many educated, kind and intelligent people don’t see it.

There are many bad things in the Quran. To justify them, Muslims say, but you know, comparing to the traditions that were prevalent at the time, Mohammed’s new laws were revolutionary. Girls were no longer buried alive, women gained some property rights etc. So it was a positive thing. Perhaps. It doesn’t make the wrong doctrines in the Quran any better.

You are saying, God used a prevalent tradition, limited it and made it more humane. If I understood correctly. It still is a very ugly tradition. The picture I painted was simply to show it is so, regardless of if it’s going to remain hypothetical or not.

Why not abolish it? Is God not almighty? Why follow leadership of men instead of becoming the leader? “Okay, people, I can’t change your mind about doing those nasty things, so I’ll just tell you to keep doing them…” What a weak picture of God who adapts to people instead of giving them their pure truth.

That it’s a nasty tradition is proven by the fact people dropped it after some centuries and today have to come up with reasons why it was supported by God and why we’re not doing it anymore.

How much easier is it to admit it’s wrong?

 

[Clare73]

Absolutely. They are not equal though.

Nor were they meant to be.

Keeping in mind the Mosaic ceremonial laws were figurative, they were not the reality itself, but pointed to the reality itself, to come.