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1 Thessalonians 4:16 When the Command is given, when the Archangels voice is heard, when God’s Trumpet sounds, then the Lord Himself will descend from heaven..
This prophesies the glorious Return of Jesus to gather His faithful Christian peoples to where He is; in Jerusalem. Matthew 24:30-31, 1 Thessalonians 4:17

1 Thessalonians 5:1-3 About dates and times, my friends, there is no need to write to you. For you know perfectly well that the Day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night. While other people are saying: Now we have peace and safety, then; sudden destruction will come upon them.... and there will be no escape.

Are these prophesies talking about the same event?
The Book of Revelation is where we can find a correct sequence of the end times events.

In Revelation 6:12-17, the terrible Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath, by fire, storms, earthquakes and tsunamis is described, plus over 100 other prophesies also describe this Day of vengeance, His fury and anger against the nations. The Lord is not seen on this Day. Psalms 11:4-6, Habakkuk 3:4 BEFORE the Return!

The Day of the Lord’s fiery wrath, as the Son of Man, is the sudden, shocking and unexpected Day, a world changer, which will set the stage for the establishment of a One World Govt. Daniel 7:23-27, Revelation 13:1-8

The faithful Christian peoples, will pass safely through this literal Day of worldwide disaster. We are told what to do: Call upon the Name of the Lord and you will be saved. Joel 2:32, Acts 2:21, Romans 10:13


The Day of the Lord’s glorious Return; As the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Much has to happen before we get to Revelation 19:11-13, where Jesus is described as coming in garments already splashed in blood. Got from His previous Day of vengeance and wrath. Isaiah 63:1-6 and Revelation 14:17-20

It will NOT be unexpected; heralded by God and the angels and NOT a surprise, as He will Return exactly 1260 days, [42 months] after Satan desecrates the Temple. Daniel 9:27b, Revelation 13:5
Jesus destroys the attacking armies at Armageddon by the Sword of His Word and chains up Satan. He just separates the nations at this time. Matthew 25:31-33

Jesus then commences His thousand year earthly reign, on David’s Throne, in the new Temple in Jerusalem. As Isaiah 65:18-25, Zechariah 14:16-21 describe.

Conclusion: 1 Thess 4:16 and 1 Thess 5:1-3 are about 2 separate Days, several years apart. Paul; like the other Prophets, doesn’t put them into their correct sequence.

The final Judgment happens after the Millennium. Matthew 25:46, Revelation 20:11-15 Then comes Eternity
 
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The Future of Jewish Israel:
As we come closer to a showdown between Iran and the Western world, over Iran’s overt and now successful nuclear missile program, we Bible believing Christians should look closely at what we are told by the Bible Prophets.
God has given us much information about what will happen when Iran and their allies try to attack Israel and America, as they have plainly said they intend to do.

The best description of what the Lord will do at the moment of attack is:

Psalms 7:12-16 The enemy sharpens his sword again, strings his bow and makes it ready. It is against himself that he has prepared his deadly shafts and tipped his arrows with fire, he is in concert with iniquity, he has conceived mischief and given birth to lies.
The enemy has dug a pit and made it deep, but he himself will fall into the pit he has made. His nefarious plans will recoil upon himself and the violence he planned for others, will fall upon his own head.
Joel 3:4

This scenario is confirmed by Jeremiah 49:35-37 and Ezekiel 32:24-25

However, the fulfilment of these Prophesies will also result in disaster for all the peoples in the Middle East, including Judah, now represented by the Jewish State of Israel, living in a small part of the holy Land.

Ezekiel 30:1-3 ….. the peoples of Egypt, Cush, Put and Libya, and the Arabs, will fall by the Sword of the Lord on His Day of Reckoning.

Zephaniah 1:4 I shall stretch My hand over Judah, over all who live in Jerusalem, I shall wipe out their false worship, ….erasing all memory of them.

Zephaniah 1:14-18 The great Day of the Lord is near and is fast approaching. …..a day of dire distress upon the people, because of their sins against the Lord……

Nothing will save them from the fire of His retribution and vengeance, the whole Land will be affected, for He will make a sudden and terrible end to all who live in the Land.


Amos 2:4-5 For crime after crime of Judah, I shall grant them no reprieve, because they have spurned the Word of the Lord and have not observed His decrees…….
Therefore I will send fire upon Judah and Jerusalem will be destroyed.


Jesus made it clear too:
Matthew 8:12 Those who are born into the Kingdom will be thrown out…..
Matthew 21:43 I tell you: the Kingdom will be taken from you Jews ……
Revelation 2:9….those who claim to be Jews, but are not as they are really a synagogue of Satan.

Isaiah 29:1-4 tells us how a faithful remnant of Christian Jews, will survive the disaster which the Lord will send that will clear and cleanse the entire Middle East. Deuteronomy 32:43, Romans 9:27

Bible Prophecy is sure: this will all happen as Written. We are the generation who will see it all and for a Bible believer to not be aware of it: is very unfortunate and may result in some difficulty and a loss for them.
 
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The Lords Day of Vengeance is not the Great Day of the Sovereign Lord:

2 Thessalonians 1:7-10 ... when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels in blazing fire. Then he will mete out punishment to those who refuse to acknowledge God and who will not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. They will suffer the penalty of eternal destruction, cut off from the presence of God. When, on that great Day He comes to reveal His glory amongst His own and His majesty to all believers.

Do not confuse this passage with the Return of Jesus in His glory. He does NOT come in fire then. This time, at the Sixth Seal event, He reveals Himself only to those who believe in Him and keep His Laws. Isaiah 24:23, Zechariah 9:14-17, 2

1/ The Day of Vengeance and the wrath of God;

Psalms 11:4-6 The Lord is in heaven,….. He will rain fiery coals onto the wicked….

Isaiah 66:15-16 See, the Lord is coming in fire, His sword will test mankind.

Micah 5:15 In anger and fury, I shall wreak vengeance on the nations who disobey Me.

Habakkuk 3:12 Furiously; You trample down the nations.

Malachi 4:1 The Day comes; burning like a furnace, evildoers will be as stubble.

Hebrews 10:27...a terrifying judgement of fire that will consume God’s enemies.

Isaiah 30:26 On the day that the Lord saves His people,[born again Christians] the sun will shine with seven times its usual strength and the moon will be as bright as the sun.
Revelation 14:17-20 ..the angel with authority over fire....the winepress of God’s wrath…

So, we see that the first event is the Lord sending fire by the means of an earth directed explosion of the suns surface, literally causing all the graphic effects prophesied.

2/ The Great Day of the Sovereign Lord; the Return of the Lord Jesus; Rev 16:14b

Matthew 24:29-31 As soon as this time of distress has passed [the Tribulation] the sun will be darkened and the moon will not give light, the stars will fall and all the heavenly bodies will be shaken. Then ALL the peoples will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven, with power and great glory. With a trumpet blast He will send His angels to gather His chosen from the farthest corners of the world. These will be all the people who have kept faithful to the Lord during the Tribulation as all the Christians will be living in the Land soon after the Day of vengeance. Rev 12:6-17
Revelation 19:11-21....Jesus Returns and the destroys Satan’s armies, by the Sword of His Word and Satan is bound until the end of the 1000 years. Zechariah 14:3-5

There will be four more judgement/punishments by the Lord, the first to happen soon, The Lord’s Day of vengeance and wrath, a worldwide judgement of fire, earthquakes, storms and tsunamis, a world changer that will particularly affect the Middle East. Zephaniah 1:14-18, Ezekiel 30:1-5 This will enable His people, every faithful Christian person, Jew or Gentile, to settle in all of the Holy Land. Ezekiel 34:11-16, Romans 9:24-26
Then, later comes the Gog/Magog attack and their destruction. Ezekiel 38 & 39

At the Return of Jesus, He destroys the armies of the Anti Christ. Revelation 19:17-21 Then, at the end of the Millennium, there is another attack by a huge army, then comes the Great White Throne judgement of all people alive and dead.

Note: that in Rev 19:13 Jesus Returns in a garment dyed in blood. In Isaiah 63:3 He tramples the nations....and their blood spattered all his clothing. From this and the sequence in 2 Thessalonians, we can say that the Day of the Lord’s wrath- the Sixth Seal, Revelation 6:12-17 will be the next prophesied event of the end times.
Reference REB, NIV, KJV. Some verses abridged
 
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The Future of Jewish Israel:
As we come closer to a showdown between Iran and the Western world, over Iran’s overt and now successful nuclear missile program, we Bible believing Christians should look closely at what we are told by the Bible Prophets.
God has given us much information about what will happen when Iran and their allies try to attack Israel and America, as they have plainly said they intend to do.

The best description of what the Lord will do at the moment of attack is:

Psalms 7:12-16 The enemy sharpens his sword again, strings his bow and makes it ready. It is against himself that he has prepared his deadly shafts and tipped his arrows with fire, he is in concert with iniquity, he has conceived mischief and given birth to lies.
The enemy has dug a pit and made it deep, but he himself will fall into the pit he has made. His nefarious plans will recoil upon himself and the violence he planned for others, will fall upon his own head.
Joel 3:4

This scenario is confirmed by Jeremiah 49:35-37 and Ezekiel 32:24-25

However, the fulfilment of these Prophesies will also result in disaster for all the peoples in the Middle East, including Judah, now represented by the Jewish State of Israel, living in a small part of the holy Land.

Ezekiel 30:1-3 ….. the peoples of Egypt, Cush, Put and Libya, and the Arabs, will fall by the Sword of the Lord on His Day of Reckoning.

Zephaniah 1:4 I shall stretch My hand over Judah, over all who live in Jerusalem, I shall wipe out their false worship, ….erasing all memory of them.

Zephaniah 1:14-18 The great Day of the Lord is near and is fast approaching. …..a day of dire distress upon the people, because of their sins against the Lord……

Nothing will save them from the fire of His retribution and vengeance, the whole Land will be affected, for He will make a sudden and terrible end to all who live in the Land.


Amos 2:4-5 For crime after crime of Judah, I shall grant them no reprieve, because they have spurned the Word of the Lord and have not observed His decrees…….
Therefore I will send fire upon Judah and Jerusalem will be destroyed.


Jesus made it clear too:
Matthew 8:12 Those who are born into the Kingdom will be thrown out…..
Matthew 21:43 I tell you: the Kingdom will be taken from you Jews ……
Revelation 2:9….those who claim to be Jews, but are not as they are really a synagogue of Satan.

Isaiah 29:1-4 tells us how a faithful remnant of Christian Jews, will survive the disaster which the Lord will send that will clear and cleanse the entire Middle East. Deuteronomy 32:43, Romans 9:27

Bible Prophecy is sure: this will all happen as Written. We are the generation who will see it all and for a Bible believer to not be aware of it: is very unfortunate and may result in some difficulty and a loss for them.
And just looking at your use of your verses >

#. 1 And you say in Isa 29:1 , Christian Jew , but the Greek word CHRISTIAN // CHRISTIANOS is FIRST USED in Acts 11:16

#2 And Matt 24:3 is speaking about the END of WORLD.

#. 3 It just seem to me , that are not speaking about the Body of Christ , and seem to quote only. verses

that concern Israel. , what say you ?? Am I wrong. ??

And. you say you know a lot of what prophesy of DANIEL 2:31 - 45 and its meaning. and it for today. , or when ?/

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1 And you say in Isa 29:1 , Christian Jew , but the Greek word CHRISTIAN // CHRISTIANOS is FIRST USED in Acts 11:16
Jesus was the Spirit who guided the ancient Israelites. 1 Corinthians 10:4
2 And Matt 24:3 is speaking about the END of WORLD.
2 And Matt 24:3 is speaking about the END of WORLD.
Actually; the end of the age..... The 2000 year Christian age, now almost over.
3 It just seem to me , that are not speaking about the Body of Christ , and seem to quote only. verses

that concern Israel. , what say you ?? Am I wrong. ??
The Church is the true Israel. The Jews themselves do not claim to be all of Israel.
God will not redeem and forgive Judah for their crimes. Amos 2:4-5, Luke 19:27, +
 
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Jesus was the Spirit who guided the ancient Israelites. 1 Corinthians 10:4


Actually; the end of the age..... The 2000 year Christian age, now almost over.

The Church is the true Israel. The Jews themselves do not claim to be all of Israel.
God will not redeem and forgive Judah for their crimes. Amos 2:4-5, Luke 19:27, +
And. it says in the Greek WORLD // AION. is. a noun in the Genitive Case ,in the Singular and just check Strongs G165

and. see !! By the way EKKLESIA. does. not mean church , it mens EKK. , meaning A. means OUT and LESIA means

A CALLING and that. means the correct meaning is ASSEMBLY !!

And since you mentioned 1. Cor 10:2 that says. And all were BAPTIZED unto Moses in the CLOUD and in the SEA ??

#. How were 2 million Jews BAPTIZED unto MOSES. ??

#2 How. were the BAPTIZED. into the CLOUDN. ?

# 3 How were they BAPTIZED into the SEA ?

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1 Thessalonians 4:16 When the Command is given, when the Archangels voice is heard, when God’s Trumpet sounds, then the Lord Himself will descend from heaven..
This prophesies the glorious Return of Jesus to gather His faithful Christian peoples to where He is; in Jerusalem. Matthew 24:30-31, 1 Thessalonians 4:17

1 Thessalonians 5:1-3 About dates and times, my friends, there is no need to write to you. For you know perfectly well that the Day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night. While other people are saying: Now we have peace and safety, then; sudden destruction will come upon them.... and there will be no escape.

Are these prophesies talking about the same event?
The Book of Revelation is where we can find a correct sequence of the end times events.

In Revelation 6:12-17, the terrible Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath, by fire, storms, earthquakes and tsunamis is described, plus over 100 other prophesies also describe this Day of vengeance, His fury and anger against the nations. The Lord is not seen on this Day. Psalms 11:4-6, Habakkuk 3:4 BEFORE the Return!

The Day of the Lord’s fiery wrath, as the Son of Man, is the sudden, shocking and unexpected Day, a world changer, which will set the stage for the establishment of a One World Govt. Daniel 7:23-27, Revelation 13:1-8

The faithful Christian peoples, will pass safely through this literal Day of worldwide disaster. We are told what to do: Call upon the Name of the Lord and you will be saved. Joel 2:32, Acts 2:21, Romans 10:13


The Day of the Lord’s glorious Return; As the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Much has to happen before we get to Revelation 19:11-13, where Jesus is described as coming in garments already splashed in blood. Got from His previous Day of vengeance and wrath. Isaiah 63:1-6 and Revelation 14:17-20

It will NOT be unexpected; heralded by God and the angels and NOT a surprise, as He will Return exactly 1260 days, [42 months] after Satan desecrates the Temple. Daniel 9:27b, Revelation 13:5
Jesus destroys the attacking armies at Armageddon by the Sword of His Word and chains up Satan. He just separates the nations at this time. Matthew 25:31-33

Jesus then commences His thousand year earthly reign, on David’s Throne, in the new Temple in Jerusalem. As Isaiah 65:18-25, Zechariah 14:16-21 describe.

Conclusion: 1 Thess 4:16 and 1 Thess 5:1-3 are about 2 separate Days, several years apart. Paul; like the other Prophets, doesn’t put them into their correct sequence.

The final Judgment happens after the Millennium. Matthew 25:46, Revelation 20:11-15 Then comes Eternity
And in. 1. THESS 4: 13 THRU 17 , I SEE 4 RESURRECTIONS , how many do you see , help me OUT. ??

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And. it says in the Greek WORLD // AION. is. a noun in the Genitive Case ,in the Singular and just check Strongs G165

and. see !! By the way EKKLESIA. does. not mean church , it mens EKK. , meaning A. means OUT and LESIA means

A CALLING and that. means the correct meaning nis ASSEMBLY !!

And since you mentioned 1. Cor 10:2 that says. And all were BAPTIZED unto Moses in the CLOUD and in the SEA ??

#. How were 2 million Jews BAPTIZED unto MOSES. ??

#2 How. were the BAPTIZED. not the CLOUDN. ?

# 3 How were they BAPTIZED in the SEA ?

dan p
Too unreadable and confused to reply to.
 
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Too unreadable and confused to reply to.
And you cannot reply just says explain it to me and will be HAPPY to explain to you ??

And here is that verse and JUST read 1 Cor 10:2 , then explain to all so. we can be edified. by your knowledge. !!

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This thread is show the difference between the forthcoming Day of the Lords fiery wrath and the glorious Day of Jesus' Return.
From the Sixth Seal - Revelation 6:12-17, to the Return and the Battle of Armageddon, Revelation 16:16-18 & 19:11-21; is at least 10 years
 
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This thread is show the difference between the forthcoming Day of the Lords fiery wrath and the glorious Day of Jesus' Return.
From the Sixth Seal - Revelation 6:12-17, to the Return and the Battle of Armageddon, Revelation 16:16-18 & 19:11-21; is at least 10 years
I. am trying to understand how this OP talks in any way about the Body of Christ. , WHY. ??

In Rev 1:6 speaks about making who Kings and Priests. , , who are they ?

Then in Matt 19:28 the 12. apostles will sit on 12 thrones judging Israel. ??

What say you ?? Can you untangle. ?? AS. 1 Cor 6:2 and 3 , says that we are going to JUDGE Gods universe and JUDGE ANGELS

as we are going to. be to BUSY. , don't you. SEE. !

AND no reply on 1 Cor 10:2. , You must to busy studying IT. ?? But I will make time to explain 1 Cor 10:2 !!

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And. it says in the Greek WORLD // AION. is. a noun in the Genitive Case ,in the Singular and just check Strongs G165

and. see !! By the way EKKLESIA. does. not mean church , it means. EKK. , meaning A. means OUT and LESIA me

A CALLING and that. means the correct meaning is ASSEMBLY !!

And since you mentioned 1. Cor 10:2 that says. And all were BAPTIZED unto Moses in the CLOUD and in the SEA ??

#. How were 2 million Jews BAPTIZED unto MOSES. ??

#2 How. were the BAPTIZED. into the CLOUDN. ?

# 3 How were they BAPTIZED into the SEA ?

dan p
And here is how I see 1 Cor 1:2 !!

And all were BAPTIZED together UNTO Moses in the Cloud and in the SEA !!

# 1 And there are about 6 different words that called BAPTISM. , BAPTISMO , BAPTO , BAPTISTES , BAPTIZED and

BAPTISMA

# 2 And when you see the word. BAPTISM AND BAPTIZED , ALWAYS check if the word WATER // HYDOR. is. in. that. verse.

and in. 1 Cor 10:2 the Greek WATER // HYDOR has to be there to be called WATER BAPTISM .

# 3 The correct word to use , and all were PLACED or were Identification. with Moses .

And I have 3 books of on Figures. of Speech and a book of numbers from 1 thru 666 .

# 4. And the Cloud. represent called the SHEKINING GLORY as Christ will come down on. a CLOUD

# 5 And the SEA , represents MAN , like the EGYTIANS. that downed crossing the Red Sea and just saying that the can

represent others. and the Greek word BAPTISMA , will never represent WATER as it represent the holy Spirit. , some 22 times

from MATT 3:7 and in Eph 4:5 and found in 1. PETER 3:21

And those 2 million. , I am guessing and how could 2 mil be WATER BAPTIZED INTO MOSES and. there at lest that

and not including the thousand of EGYPTIANS. that followed Moses and were DROWNED !!

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, WHY. ??
Sorry Dan P, your style of posting and your attitude is not conducive to normal discussion.
You have your beliefs and nothing I can do will change them. Like most people; only when the Lord does take action, will the truths of His plans be known to you.
 
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Sorry Dan P, your style of posting and your attitude is not conducive to normal discussion.
You have your beliefs and nothing I can do will change them. Like most people; only when the Lord does take action, will the truths of His plans be known to you.
And you had. many opportunities to explain 1 Cor 10:2 and you never responded and what is the style. of my posting that

brothers you , as I try my best , all the time and sorry you feel that way and just responding to your OP. and will

ALWAY. let any one CRITIQUE me at any time , and all will learn !!

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1 Thessalonians 4:16 When the Command is given, when the Archangels voice is heard, when God’s Trumpet sounds, then the Lord Himself will descend from heaven..
This prophesies the glorious Return of Jesus to gather His faithful Christian peoples to where He is; in Jerusalem. Matthew 24:30-31, 1 Thessalonians 4:17

1 Thessalonians 5:1-3 About dates and times, my friends, there is no need to write to you. For you know perfectly well that the Day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night. While other people are saying: Now we have peace and safety, then; sudden destruction will come upon them.... and there will be no escape.

Are these prophesies talking about the same event?
The Book of Revelation is where we can find a correct sequence of the end times events.

In Revelation 6:12-17, the terrible Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath, by fire, storms, earthquakes and tsunamis is described, plus over 100 other prophesies also describe this Day of vengeance, His fury and anger against the nations. The Lord is not seen on this Day. Psalms 11:4-6, Habakkuk 3:4 BEFORE the Return!

The Day of the Lord’s fiery wrath, as the Son of Man, is the sudden, shocking and unexpected Day, a world changer, which will set the stage for the establishment of a One World Govt. Daniel 7:23-27, Revelation 13:1-8

The faithful Christian peoples, will pass safely through this literal Day of worldwide disaster. We are told what to do: Call upon the Name of the Lord and you will be saved. Joel 2:32, Acts 2:21, Romans 10:13


The Day of the Lord’s glorious Return; As the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. Much has to happen before we get to Revelation 19:11-13, where Jesus is described as coming in garments already splashed in blood. Got from His previous Day of vengeance and wrath. Isaiah 63:1-6 and Revelation 14:17-20

It will NOT be unexpected; heralded by God and the angels and NOT a surprise, as He will Return exactly 1260 days, [42 months] after Satan desecrates the Temple. Daniel 9:27b, Revelation 13:5
Jesus destroys the attacking armies at Armageddon by the Sword of His Word and chains up Satan. He just separates the nations at this time. Matthew 25:31-33

Jesus then commences His thousand year earthly reign, on David’s Throne, in the new Temple in Jerusalem. As Isaiah 65:18-25, Zechariah 14:16-21 describe.

Conclusion: 1 Thess 4:16 and 1 Thess 5:1-3 are about 2 separate Days, several years apart. Paul; like the other Prophets, doesn’t put them into their correct sequence.

The final Judgment happens after the Millennium. Matthew 25:46, Revelation 20:11-15 Then comes Eternity
Isn't the Day of the Lord the same as the Lord's Day.

Different theology is far to common in the churches.

Paul is talking about the Lord's Day and the Lord's Day is when he returns in both scriptures.
 
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Isn't the Day of the Lord the same as the Lord's Day.
There have been many Days of the Lord in the past and more in the future.
Bible Prophecy is quite clear;- there will be a Day when the Lord sends fire to change the world, to a similar degree as He did in the days of Noah.
This terrible Day is not and cannot be the same as the glorious Day Jesus will Return.

This worldwide disaster of the Sixth Seal will set the scene for all the things Prophesied from Revelation 7 to Rev 19:11, to take place.
 
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There have been many Days of the Lord in the past and more in the future.
Bible Prophecy is quite clear;- there will be a Day when the Lord sends fire to change the world, to a similar degree as He did in the days of Noah.
This terrible Day is not and cannot be the same as the glorious Day Jesus will Return.

This worldwide disaster of the Sixth Seal will set the scene for all the things Prophesied from Revelation 7 to Rev 19:11, to take place.

There have been many Days of the Lord in the past and more in the future.
Bible Prophecy is quite clear;- there will be a Day when the Lord sends fire to change the world, to a similar degree as He did in the days of Noah.
This terrible Day is not and cannot be the same as the glorious Day Jesus will Return.

This worldwide disaster of the Sixth Seal will set the scene for all the things Prophesied from Revelation 7 to Rev 19:11, to take place.
Scripture indicates when the phrase Day of The Lord is used it is referring to the future event, event that applies to the events written in Revelation and the Phrase the Lord's Day.

Did the Hebrew Israelites considered the Lord's Day in the ay of the Lord as the same? And Christians changed it to meaning Sabbath / Sunday, not even the Sabbath that God himself initiated.




 
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Because there are some similarities with the great Day of the Sovereign Lord, Rev. 19:11-21, which refers to the Return of Jesus and between the Day of the Lord’s vengeance and wrath that happens at the Sixth Seal, Rev. 6:12-17, then some people consider them as the same event.
This is not and cannot be correct, as the Seal, Trumpet and Bowl judgement-punishments as written in Revelation are clearly a consecutive series of events, with the Return at the end of all that. We are especially warned to not alter the book of Revelation. Rev 22:19

Matthew 24:27-30 Like a lightning flash over all the earth, so will the Presence of the Son of Man be. Where the dead are, the vultures will gather.
Then, immediately after the days of tribulation, the sun and moon will be darkened, stars will fall and then will appear the Lord Jesus. Everyone will mourn as He comes on the clouds with great power and glory.

Note that the moon will be blood red at the Day of the Lord’s wrath - Acts 2:20, whereas at the Return, the sun and moon will be darkened. It is patently obvious that there are two events described above, first is the Sixth Seal, when the Lord instigates the ‘lightning flash’ of His Day of vengeance and wrath, at the punishment of the nations when He is not seen, He stays in heaven; Psalms 11:4-6, Amos 1 - sending down fire, then it isn’t until after the Seventh Seal time gap of several years and at the end of the Great Tribulation, that He Returns in glory to commence His Millennial reign. The Lord Jesus comes on the clouds, Matthew 24:30, in His garment splashed with blood; from His previous punishment of the nations. Isaiah 63:1-6
Where the dead are; where those carrion birds gather, is mainly in the Middle East, but also around the world as many prophesies say. Ezekiel 30:2-5, Psalm 83:1-18, Isaiah 66:15-16, Jeremiah 25:33, Deut. 32:41, Zephaniah 1:14-18, Nahum 1:3-6, 2 Peter 3:10

These Bible passages also state the next prophesied event, the Day of the Lord’s wrath and what the ‘lightning flash’ is that will affect all the world is explained to us in:
Isaiah 30:26-30…the sun will shine with seven times its normal strength, on the Day the Lord saves His people. Look! The power of the Lord comes from afar, with His wrath and great rage blazing, His tongue as a devouring fire… He sieves out the nations for destruction. His arm will strike them down with flames of devouring fire, floods, hailstones and storm tempest. But for you, [Christians] there will be rejoicing, as you march to the holy Land, to the Rock of Israel.

Isaiah 42:14-16 Long have I restrained Myself… now I am ready to act. I shall dry up the streams, lay waste to the land and make it a desert. Then, I shall lead My people along new paths, I will make a light before them.

Psalm 97:1-12 The Lord reigns! In His justice, He flashes forth lightning’s and all the earth quakes. Cloud and thick mist enfolds Him as fire goes ahead, consuming all His enemies. The Lord’s people hear and rejoice as He rescues them. Psalm 18:7-15

Deuteronomy 32:36-43 The Lord will judge the nations, but will have compassion on His servants. His flashing sword of punishment will fall upon His enemies. He will take vengeance on all who hate Him and will cleanse His people’s Land.

Ezekiel 36:5-12 In the fiery heat of My anger, I will punish the nations, but especially those who inhabit My holy Land. Then you, Land of Israel, will put forth growth and bear produce, for the homecoming of My people is near. I will bless the Land and settle upon it many people – the whole Israelite people, they will increase and be prosperous, the burned houses and the ruined places will be rebuilt.

Zechariah 9:14-17 The Lord comes on a mighty storm wind from the South. He will sound the shofar, as His arrows dart like lightning, defeating the enemy and defending His people. They will rejoice, as with wine, on the Day their Lord saves them, for they are as precious jewels sparkling in the holy Land.

Joel 2:11 & 18 The Lord thunders as He marshals His forces, countless are those who obey His commands. For great and terrible is the Day of the Lord and who can endure it? Then the Lord shows His love for the holy Land and has compassion for His righteous people.

Amos 9:5 & 14 At the Lord’s touch, the whole earth heaves, it will rise and fall like the Nile and woe to all who live on it. But I will restore the fortune of My people, righteous Israel, they will rebuild the ruined towns, sow and plant, then enjoy the produce.

Habakkuk 3:10-13 The mountains see You and shake, an enormous wave of water rushes by, the sun and moon stay still as Your flashing arrows and Your spear like lightning speed on their way. In fury, You traverse the earth, in anger You trample the nations, but You come out to save Your people, as You shatter the wicked; You protect Your anointed ones.

Malachi 4:1-3 The Day comes, burning like a furnace, when all the arrogant and evildoers will be burnt to a stubble, that Day will set them ablaze and leave neither root nor branch. But for you who fear My Name, the sun of righteousness will shine forth, you will be restored and break loose, like calves released. On the Day I take action, the wicked will be burnt ashes beneath your feet.

Revelation 14:12 &18-19 From the Altar came another angel, the one who has authority over fire and he called to the one with the sharp sickle: Put in your sharp sickle, for the earth’s harvest is ripe. So the angel swept the earth, gathered in the grapes and threw them into the great winepress of God’s wrath.
All this calls for the endurance of the Lord’s people, all those who keep His commands and remain loyal to Him.

All these prophecies and many others, speak of a worldwide punishment by fire, a Coronal Mass Ejection, a sun explosion that will depopulate the entire Middle East. Then the great gathering of the Christian Israelite people, the true descendants and those grafted in, will gather and live in all of the holy Land. They will choose their own leaders, Jeremiah 30:21, Hosea 1:11. The Lord will ‘reveal His glory among His own’ 2 Thessalonians 1:10, Rev. 14:1, but not to the world, until several years later.

Like most of the prophetic Word, Revelation is somewhat mixed up. But the Seals, Trumpets and Bowls are one of the few instances of a correct sequence and from them, we can get a true picture of events. Note carefully, in Revelation 5:1; the description of the Scroll – written on both sides and sealed with seven seals. So the Seals are first, they must be removed one by one. The first five have been opened, probably soon after the ‘Lamb’ ascended to heaven.

The Sixth Seal is next, now very soon to happen. This sudden and shocking world changing event will enable the establishment of the One World Govt, also the gathering of the Lord’s people to all of the holy Land. That is what all Christians should be looking forward to!

At the same time, or very soon after the Sixth, is the 7th seal, which is undeniably a time interval. Then, years later, at the mid-point of Daniels 70th year, the scroll is unrolled for the Great Tribulation – the 7 Trumpets and the 7 Bowls.

Revelation 7:1-14 After that, [the Sixth Seal] I saw four angels holding back any further disasters until the seal of God was given to His servants. Twelve thousand from each tribe of Israel received the seal of God.... and then I saw a great throng of people from all races, tribes, nations and tongues, praising the Lord. They have passed through great ordeal, been tested and found righteous. All the true faithful Christians.

holding back any further disasters’ This proves that the Great Tribulation is still to come.

great ordeal’ – Of the Sixth Seal. Some Bibles say ‘the great tribulation’, leading to wrongly thinking that the Day of the Lord’s wrath happens at the Return. 1 Peter 4:12, 1 Cor. 3:13

the scorching heat of the sun’, -The devastating CME sunstrike of the Sixth Seal.

The 144,000 Israelites’, The Christian Israelites of God, chosen to go out to the world to proclaim the coming Kingdom of Jesus. Isaiah 66:19, Revelation 14:1-7
 
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