Two Creation Accounts or One?

[HitchSlap]

Your opinion is noted.

Read my link. It will clear a few things up for you, including the contradictions.

 

[LivingWordUnity]

But they do contradict each other.

I disagree. One is the broad overview of the world, and the other is the close-up of the garden. The focus is different, but there's not a contradiction.

 

[LivingWordUnity]

Source?

The fact that the first 5 books were always recognized as being written by Moses until modern scholars decided to be creative and come up with a different version of what happened.

 

[Archie the Preacher]

I believe Adam wrote Genesis 1 and 2.

I'm not convinced Adam had a written language. Which would mean the Creation account - if God revealed it to Adam - would be preserved in oral tradition.

And since Adam lived for 950 years, he could very well have written it two to three hundred years later.

Yeah. And that could explain the seeming difference in viewpoint of the two accounts, as well.

 

[HitchSlap]

The fact that the first 5 books were always recognized as being written by Moses until modern scholars decided to be creative and come up with a different version of what happened.

Scholarship can be applied to all historical literature, including the Bible. There's absolutely no reason to suggest otherwise.

 

[AV1611VET]

Read my link. It will clear a few things up for you, including the contradictions.

I'll pass.

I already know what I believe; and it's clear as day.

 

[AV1611VET]

Well, this thread is going south in a hurry.

 

[LivingWordUnity]

Scholarship can be applied to all historical literature, including the Bible. There's absolutely no reason to suggest otherwise.

They made up the theory. It's what modern scholars do.

 

[HitchSlap]

They made up the theory. It's what modern scholars do.

They applied widely held scholarly textual critical analyses to Genesis. Not my concern if it contradicts your personal religious beliefs.

 

[HitchSlap]

Well, this thread is going south in a hurry.

I'll pass.

I already know what I believe; and it's clear as day.

Eyes wide shut, as they say.

 

[LivingWordUnity]

They applied widely held scholarly textual critical analyses to Genesis. Not my concern if it contradicts your personal religious beliefs.

That's a fancy way of saying they made it up. It's a historical fact that it was always universally accepted that Moses wrote the first 5 books of the Holy Bible. It's not just based on personal religious beliefs. I'm also referencing history. Christianity and Judaism are historical religions. But modern scholars like to rewrite history.

 

[HitchSlap]

That's a fancy way of saying they made it up. It's a historical fact that it was always universally accepted that Moses wrote the first 5 books of the Holy Bible. It's not just based on personal religious beliefs. I'm also referencing history. Christianity and Judaism are historical religions. But modern scholars like to rewrite history.

Lol.
Read my link.

 

[LivingWordUnity]

I don't have a problem understanding the chapters of Genesis. Modern scholars need better reading comprehension if they really do think that there's a contradiction between the first two chapters.

 

[HitchSlap]

I don't have a problem understanding the chapters of Genesis.

The problem lies not in what you understand, but what you don't.

Until your desire to know is greater than your need to believe, you'll forever be at a disadvantage.

 

[LivingWordUnity]

The problem lies not in what you understand, but what you don't.

Until your desire to know is greater than your need to believe, you'll forever be at a disadvantage.

I don't accept rewritten history.

 

[HitchSlap]

I don't accept rewritten history.

IMO, you don't accept anything that contradicts your beliefs. This is known as cognitive dissonance.

 

[mmksparbud]

Texts of Genesis: J, E, and P

This is the kind of idiotic statements that these "Scholars" come up with:


"(4) Fourth, Genesis 1:1-2:3 treats the matter of creation differently than in Genesis 2:4 and following passages. In Genesis 1:27, God simultaneously creates multiple men and women on the sixth day, and he does so by speaking:

Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground.

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. [Note the plural forms indicated by the object pronouns them in the top and bottom passages]"

"Note the plural"---them----right---God creating one man and one woman and then saying "them", since there is more than one individual, means that He must have created many of each!!!! What kind of stupidity is that?? I have a female dog and a male dog---they are "them"--not many of each sex!!

They don't even bother to read the original---
Genesis 1:26
and Elohiym said, we will make a human in our image, like our likeness, and he will rule in the fish of the sea and in the flyers of the skies, and in the beast, and in all the land, and in all the treaders treading upon the land,
Genesis 1:27
and Elohiym fattened the human in his image, in the image of Elohiym he fattened him, male and female he fattened them,
Mechanical Translation

There is no way of making many of each sex out of that.

 

[AV1611VET]

Nothing like a nice frame story to turn unbelievers, who will use any translation or any religious writings to argue other points, into KJVOs ... eh?

The NIV "corrects" their "problem" quite nicely.

But for some reason, they're playing Scrabble with only the letters J, E, P, D, and wondering why they can't make a word with it.

So they blame it on Mattel.

 

[florida2]

The fact that the first 5 books were always recognized as being written by Moses until modern scholars decided to be creative and come up with a different version of what happened.

It's like everyone believing the earth was flat until people actually studied it and decided to be creative and come up with a different version of the shape of the earth.

Why would modern scholars, people who actually study literature, make it up?

 

[JackRT]

That's a made up theory.

It is a theory with a great deal more support then the theory that Moses wrote it.