Two Aspects of Salvation (Believers Need to Be Concerned With):

[Bible Highlighter]

And since I believe in the sovereignty of God; He will save His people from their sin and nothing either of us say will deter that from happening!

What saith the Scriptures?
This is what you have been avoiding over your cries of how you believe God should be.

 

[The Righterzpen]

What saith the Scriptures?
This is what you have been avoiding over your cries of how you believe God should be.

Yes, what say the Scriptures.....
You can't save me. You need to learn to let things go and let God deal with it.

 

[Buzzard3]

Eternal life is only for those who abide in Christ. Remember, 1 John 5:12 says he that has the Son has life, and he that does not have the Son does not have life. 1 John 2:3-4 lays out the conditions on testing to see if you are abiding in the Son correctly or not. 1 John 2:3 says we can have an assurance that we know the Lord if we find we are keeping His commandments. 1 John 2:4 says that the person who says they know the Lord and they do not keep His commandments is a liar and the truth is not in them. Meaning, Jesus (who is eternal life) is not in them, and they are not saved. For Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life (John 14:6).

Why let Scripture ruin a perfectly good delusion?

 

[Buzzard3]

What does it mean for Christ to atone for sin?

It doesn't mean you can sin with impunity. You would know that if you read the NT honestly.

God will judge your sins. Good luck with that.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Yes, what say the Scriptures.....
You can't save me.

James 5:19-20
19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

You need to learn to let things go and let God deal with it.

You need to restudy His Word by the Anointing (1 John 2:27), and not let church traditions or man’s teachings get in the way of your believing God’s Word. You need to accept what Scripture actually says vs. what you prefer it to say. Your replies are evidence that you currently do not want to deal with what the text actually says.

 

[The Righterzpen]

You need to

feel like you won an argument..... apparently.

If you believe God is sovereign; than get out of His way. Let Him do His job.

OK?? Can you do that??

 

[The Righterzpen]

It doesn't mean you can sin with impunity. You would know that if you read the NT honestly.

God will judge your sins. Good luck with that.

I never said it meant I can sin with impunity. And my sins have already been judged in Christ. So yes, I consider myself very "lucky".

Are you another one who just needs to rest in God's sovereignty for other people's lives and get out of God's way?

 

[Buzzard3]

James 5:19-20
19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.


You need to restudy His Word by the Anointing (1 John 2:27), and not let church traditions or man’s teachings get in the way of your believing God’s Word. You need to accept what Scripture actually says vs. what you prefer it to say. Your replies are evidence that you currently do not want to deal with what the text actually says.

You can lead a horse to water ...

 

[Buzzard3]

You cannot honestly say you are doing what Jesus says if you are basically stating that you are breaking his commandments (sin) with the thinking you are saved. Sin is the breaking of God’s laws or commandments (See: 1 John 3:4)

False doctrines produce fake Christians.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

feel like you won an argument..... apparently.

If you believe God is sovereign; than get out of His way. Let Him do His job.

OK?? Can you do that??

Be not deceived. The unrighteous will not inherit the Kingdom of God.
One of the first lies of the serpent was to convince Eve that she could break God’s command and not die.
It is very odd that this same very lie of serpent (the devil) is being pushed as truth today in Christianity.
How warped things are in these last days.

 

[Bible Highlighter]

I never said it meant I can sin with impunity.

Sin with impunity is exactly what one believes if they hold to the view that future sin is forgiven them. You yourself agreed with John Piper that when he sins but he does not have them anymore because they are not on him because of his belief in Christ. John Piper says, I still do them, but I don’t have them anymore. Meaning, he still sins and he does not have them. He is sinning with impunity and you agreed with him.

And my sins have already been judged in Christ. So yes, I consider myself very "lucky".

This is sinning with impunity.
Again, your belief is the lie repeated by the serpent to Eve in the garden in that the serpent told Eve that if she broke God’s command she would not die. You are believing this same lie by the serpent back in the Garden. You have bought into the lie of the devil. Only the devil desires you to sin. 1 John 3:8 says he that commits sin is of the devil. Be not deceived, the unrighteous will not inherit the Kingdom of God. If a Christian is in the sin that God attaches with warnings of hellfire or condemnation, then they are not going to enter the Kingdom of God. They will be destroyed in the Lake of Fire.

Fear the LORD!

Are you another one who just needs to rest in God's sovereignty for other people's lives and get out of God's way?

Chapter and verse please.

 

[The Righterzpen]

Sin with impunity is exactly what one believes if they hold to the view that future sin is forgiven them. You yourself agreed with John Piper that when he sins but he does not have them anymore because they are not on him because of his belief in Christ. John Piper says, I still do them, but I don’t have them anymore. Meaning, he still sins and he does not have them. He is sinning with impunity and you agreed with him.



This is sinning with impunity.
Again, your belief is the lie repeated by the serpent to Eve in the garden in that the serpent told Eve that if she broke God’s command she would not die. You are believing this same lie by the serpent back in the Garden. You have bought into the lie of the devil. Only the devil desires you to sin. 1 John 3:8 says he that commits sin is of the devil. Be not deceived, the unrighteous will not inherit the Kingdom of God. If a Christian is in the sin that God attaches with warnings of hellfire or condemnation, then they are not going to enter the Kingdom of God. They will be destroyed in the Lake of Fire.

Fear the LORD!



Chapter and verse please.

Dudes - Let go and let God! But.... I suppose you can't do that.

 

[Buzzard3]

Dudes - Let go and let God! But.... I suppose you can't do that.

If Jesus paid the penalty for all your sins, how do you make sense of this verse? ...

"I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things (sin) shall not inherit the kingdom of God." (Gal 5:21)

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Dudes - Let go and let God! But.... I suppose you can't do that.

See, what you are doing is letting your thoughts or the man made thoughts of others rule your thinking. There is no Scripture verse that even says, ”Let go and let God!” You are not following the God of the Bible, but your own thoughts about God.

Isaiah 55:8
”For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.”

 

[Bible Highlighter]

Dudes -

The word “dude” insulting when used with a general audience;
Especially in an office setting or among Christians, the word “dude” can be offensive particularly if there are elderly people around.

The word “dude” is used especially with stoners, surfers, and skaters.
American films in the 1980s and 1990s used the word with two meanings: one as a “cool person” and one as a “lazy deadbeat.”
So seeing there are negative references attached to this word, some folks can take that word as a sign of disrespect because they may believe you are insulting them.

The origin of the word was insulting to begin with.

1) Originally, “dude” meant a stuck up person who dressed overly well. It first emerged in the year 1883 in England.​

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2) Later it was used in the old west to mean a city person who moved to the west without actually know what he was doing. Synonymous with “city-slicker”​

Romans 14:21

”It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine,​

nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, ​

or is offended, or is made weak.”​

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Imagine if you use this word among a Christian who associates this word “dude” with his stoner (druggy) lifestyle.
Do not do anything to lead a brother to potentialy stumble.

Sources used:

https://www.bnd.com/living/magazine/article156702599.html

Urbandictionary

Definitely do not go to South Africa and speak this word openly to respected people, and children. It is a swear word.
Granted, the spelling is different, but the point is to be aware that words matter to people and they can affect them (either for good or evil).

Side Note:

Some in the new generation are trying to change this, but look at how things are lately. Christians are battling the whole “woke” agenda among other things. Why add to these problems by using a word that can offend many people?

Let go and let God! But.... I suppose you can't do that.

This sounds like the exact opposite of what the Bible says.

Luke 13:24 says,
”Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.”

 

[The Righterzpen]

If Jesus paid the penalty for all your sins, how do you make sense of this verse? ...

"I warn you, as I warned you before, that those who do such things (sin) shall not inherit the kingdom of God." (Gal 5:21)

Do you want a serious answer to this; or are you just looking to argue your beliefs?

Are you another one who believes you have no sin?

 

[The Righterzpen]

There is no Scripture verse that even says, ”Let go and let God!”

Romans 8:28

 

[Buzzard3]

Do you want a serious answer to this

Yes please.

Are you another one who believes you have no sin?

I am a sinner.

 

[The Righterzpen]

I am a sinner.

Am I correctly assuming here that you at least understand you still sin? If you understand that believes will never been sinless this side of the grave; then we are on the same page here.

@Bible Highlighter believes he no longer sins. Or at least that is as much as I can make out of his just quoting Scripture and not actually directly answering the question.

 

[Buzzard3]

Romans 8:28

Romans 8:28 says,
"We know that in everything God works for good with those who love him, who are called according to his purpose."

Jesus said,
"If you love me, you will keep my commandments ... He who has my commandments and keeps them, he it is who loves me" (John 14:15, 21).

Do you keep his commandments?