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It’s take this to mean you can sin and still be saved like John Piper.
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It’s take this to mean you can sin and still be saved like John Piper.I'll take this to mean that you believe you have no sin.
Yep. Believers will not be free of this corrupt body until they either die, or are translated at the end of time.It’s take this to mean you can sin and still be saved like John Piper.
Yeah. This is Free Grace Theology. Generally Mid Acts Dispensationalists are Free Grace and they believe no amount of sin can separate them from God (Which is insane). George Sodini believed his Pastor’s deceptions in that you could murder and still be saved, which is contrary to 1 John 3:15, and other verses. George Sodini ended up shooting a bunch of people and then he turned the gun on himself. In his suicide letter (so to speak), he said he would be saved despite what he did. His church even said he was saved despite what he did. This is pure insanity.Absurd. Idiotic. Disturbing.
Jesus warned that He did not know those believers who worked iniquity and He told them to depart from Him in Matthew 7:22-23. Keep in mind that this passage Is in context to Matthew 7:26-27 where Jesus says that if anyone does not do what He says, he is like a fool who built this house upon the sand and when a storm came, great was the fall of that house.Yep. Believers will not be free of this corrupt body until they either die, or are translated at the end of time.
Paul said; we will not all sleep but we will all be changed. Why would anyone need to be changed if all believers could cease to sin and therefore not need to be changed?
Eternal Security or Once Saved Always Saved is tied to a sin and still be saved type belief. Granted, there are Free Will Baptists who deny Eternal Security, but they believe you can sin and still be saved, though. We truly are living in the last days. Today, it’s all about justifying some kind of sin with thinking that one is still saved.Absurd. Idiotic. Disturbing.
This belief is illogical. In order for you to believe you can sin and still be saved, God would have to agree with that plan of salvation and yet God cannot agree with sin or wrong doing. The Lord our God is a holy and just God. But if somebody confesses and forsakes sin, that is different because they are changing course and they are not seeking to justify sin.Yep. Believers will not be free of this corrupt body until they either die, or are translated at the end of time.
Paul said; we will not all sleep but we will all be changed. Why would anyone need to be changed if all believers could cease to sin and therefore not need to be changed?
John 6Jesus warned that He did not know those believers who worked iniquity and He told them to depart from Him in Matthew 7:22-23. Keep in mind that this passage Is in context to Matthew 7:26-27 that says that if anyone does not do what Jesus says is like a fool who build this house upon the sand and when a storm came, great was the fall of that house.
What does it mean for Christ to atone for sin?This belief is illogical. In order for you to believe you can sin and still be saved, God would have to agree with that plan of salvation and yet God cannot agree with sin or wrong doing. The Lord our God is a holy and just God. But if somebody confesses and forsakes sin, that is different because they are changing course and they are not seeking to justify sin.
Eternal life is only for those who abide in Christ. Remember, 1 John 5:12 says he that has the Son has life, and he that does not have the Son does not have life. 1 John 2:3-4 lays out the conditions on testing to see if you are abiding in the Son correctly or not. 1 John 2:3 says we can have an assurance that we know the Lord if we find we are keeping His commandments. 1 John 2:4 says that the person who says they know the Lord and they do not keep His commandments is a liar and the truth is not in them. Meaning, Jesus (who is eternal life) is not in them, and they are not saved. For Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life (John 14:6).What do I need to say about these verses. I'm redeemed. I have eternal life. This flesh of mine will put on incorruption on the last day.
John 6:37-40 says,John 6
37: All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out.
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
Jesus aint gonna lose me!
If Christ paid for your sin and you end up in the Lake of Fire; than 2 people paid for the sin of one. Besides making Christ's atonement null and void - Would God be just?Eternal life is only for those who abide in Christ. Remember, 1 John 5:12 says he that has the Son has life, and he that does not have the Son does not have life. 1 John 2:3-4 lays out the conditions on testing to see if you are abiding in the Son correctly or not. 1 John 2:3 says we can have an assurance that we know the Lord if we find we are keeping His commandments. 1 John 2:4 says that the person who says they know the Lord and they do not keep His commandments is a liar and the truth is not in them. Meaning, Jesus (who is eternal life) is not in them, and they are not saved. For Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life (John 14:6).
Unless you are a Univeralist, Christ provided a Provisional Atonement to offer man the free gift. But this free gift of God’s grace is accessed by faith (See: Romans 5:2 in how God’s grace is accessed by faith).What does it mean for Christ to atone for sin?
If Christ atoned for the sin of all the people who lose their salvation; than Christ's sacrifice was ineffectual.
Sorry, that’s not how it works. Only past sins are forgiven us when we access God’s grace by faith. Again, if God paid for your future sin, then that would mean you have a license to sin. God cannot agree with you doing any kind of future sin or evil because He is a holy and just God.If Christ paid for your sin and you end up in the Lake of Fire; than 2 people paid for the sin of one. Besides making Christ's atonement null and void - Would God be just?
Again, if Christ loses even one He atoned for; than His atonement was null and void and Jesus is a liar; because he specifically states He will lose nothing.Unless you are a Univeralist, Christ provided a Provisional Atonement to offer man the free gift. But this free gift of God’s grace is accessed by faith (See: Romans 5:2 in how God’s grace is accessed by faith).
LOL - How does that work; That constitutes re-crucifying Christ every time you have to confess your sin.Sorry, that’s not how it works. Only past sins are forgiven us when we access God’s grace by faith. Again, if God paid for your future sin, then that would mean you have a license to sin. God cannot agree with you doing any kind of future sin or evil because He is a holy and just God.
Paul warns be not deceived the unrighteous will not inherit the Kingdom of God. Also see 1 Timothy 5:8. It’s a slam dunk in destroying your belief here.If Christ paid for your sin and you end up in the Lake of Fire; than 2 people paid for the sin of one. Besides making Christ's atonement null and void - Would God be just?
Please go back and reread what I wrote involving my quotes of Scripture. You missed the conditions involved. Words like SHOULD mean stuff. But you want to change the conditions because you don’t like them.Again, if Christ loses even one He atoned for; than His atonement was null and void and Jesus is a liar; because he specifically states He will lose nothing.
Jesus only paid for the sin of the elect.
How often is Christ required to be crucified?Please go back and reread what I wrote involving my quotes of Scripture. You missed the conditions involved. Words like SHOULD mean stuff. But you want to change the conditions because you don’t like them.
I'm not unrighteous.Paul warns be not deceived the unrighteous will not inherit the Kingdom of God. Also see 1 Timothy 5:8. It’s a slam dunk in destroying your belief here.
Have you not read 1 John 1:9, and 1 John 2:1 before? Ever hear of… let us boldly come to the thone of grace? (See: Hebrews 4:16). What about Proverbs 28:13 and Psalms 51?LOL - How does that work; That constitutes re-crucifying Christ every time you have to confess your sin.
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