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They can't do that or they break the CF rules.
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We could report them and they could face account banning.
I'll have to think about it, as the old saying goes

"Once crucified, twice shy"
 
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I'm not sure. I've not seen a child baptism quite like that. Off hand, I wouldn't say it's invalid.
No I think it would have to be invalid on the account that the parents hearts of this child was in the wrong place.
 
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*** My Religious Inclinations ***
A water baptism in the name of God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit is valid.
Full immersion is historical and preferred as it symbolises a bath and burial of the old life which however convenient a sprinking doesn't really reenact aesthetically.
Babies can't repent but they can grow up in the Lord and repent before receieving the Holy Spirit.
 
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No I think it would have to be invalid on the account that the parents hearts of this child was in the wrong place.
A person can come to faith later in life, even being raised in a non-Christian home. Being baptized as a child doesn't guarantee that, but can be a seed of faith.
 
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A person can come to faith later in life, even being raised in a non-Christian home. Being baptized as a child doesn't guarantee that, but can be a seed of faith.
I only ask this questions, because of the pressure that was applied to me by a old Christian friend. Who thought I was not a full Christian without being baptized. But then some say yes it's valid some say no.

Well who is right, should I have been re baptised?
 
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Sorry I've learned the hard way, that the religious will mock and destroy other people's personal belief's for their agenda. Such as the Native Indians in America, and the Aboriginals in Australia.

So I think ill stop here, before we all get into a flame war.
Do you think I have attacked your belief, or any others? You ask a lot of questions, and I have only tried to help. Sometimes these conversations are hard, but you must remain diligent to seeking for the truth. If you weren't, I don't think you would be here.

You said that "life" had answered all your questions and I asked what the answers were. You replied with a list of questions. My response was to challenge you to dig deeper and see if life has truly answered those questions.

I will say one more thing, and I will not bug you any further. There are many religious people who say ugly things, and even mock what they considered ridiculous. I have seen Christians do that, and I agree that it is a terrible shame. But consider this, just because Christians are wrong doesn't mean that God is wrong. We are all far less than perfect and we fall in many ways. But God is true in all he does, now and forever. In your quest, I hope you will come to peace with God's people. But more than that, I hope you will come to peace with God first and foremost.
 
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I only ask this questions, because of the pressure that was applied to me by a old Christian friend. Who thought I was not a full Christian without being baptized. But then some say yes it's valid some say no.

Well who is right, should I have been re baptised?

Nah, you just need to wash your feet!
 
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I only ask this questions, because of the pressure that was applied to me by a old Christian friend. Who thought I was not a full Christian without being baptized. But then some say yes it's valid some say no.

Well who is right, should I have been re baptised?
Except for a minority of Protestant Christians who think baptism is only a symbol and is performed by a new believer strictly as obedience to Christ's command, there is no such thing as a re-baptism. Your "old friend" may have been of that persuasion, however. But most Christians believe--and most churches teach--that baptism is indelible. You might be baptized, fall away, come back to the faith...but you were still baptized.

The Mormons want you to be baptized because they are not mainstream Christian and think new members are first entering into the true faith. So if you want to become a Mormon, you'd go for it. If you don't, you are already baptized.
 
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I was baptised when I was 2 by my traditionalist parents, then again at the Mormon Church when I was older.

Firstly, why do parents who are not Christian follow hollow tradition?

Secondly, is my Mormon baptism valid? I don't think so.
No the Mormon baptism is not valid because in the Bible it is faith alone in Jesus Christ that saves us, while the Mormon church believes in salvation through Christ 'after all we can do' to obtain salvation through works, which is not Christian.

There are a few other beliefs, such as that the Father is not Spirit and lives on a planet some where with a body, but I won't go there unless you want th other reasons.
 
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Mormon baptisms are not considered valid in most mainline churches or conservative Protestant churches, because Mormons do not confess one God existing in three persons. A person who was baptized only in a Mormon church would have to be "re-baptized" if they were going to join a Catholic or mainline Protestant church.
 
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No the Mormon baptism is not valid because in the Bible it is faith alone in Jesus Christ that saves us, while the Mormon church believes in salvation through Christ 'after all we can do' to obtain salvation through works, which is not Christian.

There are a few other beliefs, such as that the Father is not Spirit and lives on a planet some where with a body, but I won't go there unless you want th other reasons.
It's ok, you can go there.
 
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Mormon baptisms are not considered valid in most mainline churches or conservative Protestant churches, because Mormons do not confess one God existing in three persons. A person who was baptized only in a Mormon church would have to be "re-baptized" if they were going to join a Catholic or mainline Protestant church.
Total Re-Baptism
 
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Secondly, is my Mormon baptism valid? I don't think so.

The big picture is that there's a New Covenant out there which is not something born with. The New Covenant, unlike the old one, requires one's consent to accept. You need to accept Jesus Christ with consent for the covenant to be applicable to your salvation.

Baptism is basically the acceptance of Jesus Christ under open witnessing. It is analog to when standing a trial in a law court with eye-witnesses proving your innocence.
 
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