why wait? he could do it in a jiffy. remake the world, be done with it all.
and why HAS he not done that already?
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why wait? he could do it in a jiffy. remake the world, be done with it all.
and why HAS he not done that already?
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You claim you were --- are you backtracking now?
Sounds to me like someone is burning his bridges behind him.
I thought you said you were a Christian at one time?
QV: 30 and especially this 27 , where you said:
Now, what am I supposed to believe?
I have a feeling that if the Cross wasn't a big enough hoop for you, nothing is.
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Why make the world at all ?
Give that God already knows who will be saved, who won't be save, just put all the saved souls in heaven, unsaved in Hell & give them all the memories required.
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Making a case for Last Thursdayism, are we? Maybe a case for Omphalism?
Don't you guys call that, "deception"?
Always trying to put God in a catch-22, aren't you?
Well, He's smarter than all of us combined ---
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Always trying to put God in a catch-22, aren't you?
Well, He's smarter than all of us combined ---
Sorry but it is not God that winds up in a "Catch-22"... it is you. And you really don't need any of our help, since you put yourself into Catch-22's all the time. You call it a "paradox" as if that was something holy.
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Not hardly.Why make the world at all ?
Give that God already knows who will be saved, who won't be save, just put all the saved souls in heaven, unsaved in Hell & give them all the memories required.Making a case for Last Thursdayism, are we? Maybe a case for Omphalism?
Don't you guys call that, "deception"?
Always trying to put God in a catch-22, aren't you?
Well, He's smarter than all of us combined ---
Agreeing with PGP would be tantamount to saying God created us Last Thursday, or even Omphalos.
If one second you don't exist, and the next you do exist in either Heaven or Hell, that would be Omphalos.
I don't know how many catch-22s I've exposed here over the years.
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I guess their are some things that God just can't manage then.
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sk8Joyful
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Hi Phil,
You're not assuming, that "Truth" & "science" are mutually
exclusive
- since God created ALL originally..., science is therefore included, right as we make scientific-discoveries,
as our awareness
grows, as our learning progresses, we embrace God's Truth even more... & All for the PRAISE 
of God!.
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sk8Joyful
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God exists, creates, & rules, outside humanity's Time/Space periphery.
You don't expect, God to aquiesce to your Timeline... really.
In fact, He has giving you, by virtue of you participating here,
numerous opportunities... God's eventual earth Re-creation.../make ENJOY!
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How much truth are we expected to surrender before we can adequately embrace christianity?
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lucaspa
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None. Remember, science studies God's second book: Creation. God left in Creation evidence of how He created. That's what science figures out.
Unfortunately, some people have tried to make a scientific theory about how God created from their interpretation of Genesis. But God's Creation shows that this interpretation is wrong. It's not about "Truth" with a capital "T". It's about a mistaken human interpretation and human pride versus what God is really telling us.
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None. I personally do not find it necessary to "surrender" anything remotely resembling "truth" to embrace Christianity. Most Catholics embrace the theory of evolution as I do whereas many Protestants do not. There seems to be a subjective element to one's belief systems that can vary from individual to individual and I choose to align my beliefs with science, whenever and wherever possible. "Science" isn't always "better than" religion by the way, nor is it immune from a 'herd mentality' that can require a surrendering of 'truth' in order to "conform", just like religion.
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lucaspa
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None. There is nothing in science to contradict the essential claims of Christianity. Fundamentalism is not Christianity.
Michael, most Protestants accept evolution. And there are some Catholics who reject it: Michael Behe comes immediately to mind. I suggest that, instead of looking at "Protestant" and "Catholic", we look at Christians and Fundamentalists.
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Interestingly enough, fundamentalists and pentacostals tend to have less in the way of formal education. To them, a literal interpretation is the only one that makes sense.
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Mas sabe el diablo por viejo que por diablo.
HAHA
Yep... this is the AV I remember.
Asks questions for no reason since he already knows the "Truth."
I remember I had him in this exact same place a few months ago when after some back-and-forth, he finally just said "If you're trying to make me deny the Bible, know now that I never will regardless of what you say" or something to that effect. I still find it fascinating, out of morbid curiosity, that he not only sees nothing wrong with his fear and/or blind faith in the Bible but that he actually believes himself better for it.
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Nathan Poe
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I've noticed that many Creationists, whether they're willing to admit it or not, use "Truth" as a substitute for "pride."
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