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Trump's closing argument? Really???

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doubtingmerle

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So I'm supposed to answer my own question.
Yes.

I answered your question, and you didn't like my source. So I asked you for your source. And you refuse to answer?

I guess that means my source wins. There are no competitors in the ring.
 
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Yes.

I answered your question, and you didn't like my source. So I asked you for your source. And you refuse to answer?
Just because you make up rules it doesn't mean anyone has to follow them.
I guess that means my source wins. There are no competitors in the ring.
Sure thing, give yourself a blue ribbon.
 
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And other people in the room said Trump didn't say that. So yes, Kelly is an angry, bitter General that Trump fired years ago who has been dug out of obscurity by the DNC to conduct their predictable October smear campaign. Honesty, this only shows how desperate the Harris campaign is in that they have reported to slinging old mud thinking it will do anything to change the inevitable outcome.

You claim Trump willingly took a bullet for his country while calling a US Marine General and Gold Star father a liar? Have you no shame?



"At Arlington National Cemetery on Memorial Day 2017, Mr. Trump toured the section where recently killed service members are buried, including Mr. Kelly’s son Robert, a Marine who was killed in 2010 while fighting in Afghanistan.

While walking through the cemetery, Mr. Kelly recounted, Mr. Trump asked what had been in it for those who had given their lives.

“And I thought he was asking one of these rhetorical kind of, you know, questions,” Mr. Kelly said. “But I didn’t realize he was serious — he just didn’t see what the point was. As I got to know him, again, this selflessness is something he just didn’t understand. What’s in it for them?”



That's the Donald Trump we all know and see everytime he opens his mouth. "What's it in for me?"
 
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US Marine General and Gold Star father a liar? Have you no shame?
General Kelly is a liar and having a child die in combat doesn't make you immune to lying. Ask Joe Biden about that. Spare me your crocodile tears and your pearl clutching because I have a feeling that this is just getting started and we will look forward to four more years of baseless accusations and anonymous leaks about hearsay that the left is going to gobble up and regurgitate like mother birds feeding their chicks.
 
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General Kelly is a liar and having a child die in combat doesn't make you immune to lying. Ask Joe Biden about that. Spare me your crocodile tears and your pearl clutching because I have a feeling that this is just getting started and we will look forward to four more years of baseless accusations and anonymous leaks about hearsay that the left is going to gobble up and regurgitate like mother birds feeding their chicks.

Yea, I get it Oompa.

*Anyone* who speaks against Donald Trump, no matter their background, experience, reputation or character, must be a liar.
 
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Yea, I get it Oompa.

*Anyone* who speaks against Donald Trump, no matter their background, experience, reputation or character, must be a liar.
Well, if you take away the the hearsay, all there is left is crass jokes about Arnold Palmer. Which doesn't bother me at all.
 
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Well, if you take away the the hearsay, all there is left is crass jokes about Arnold Palmer. Which doesn't bother me at all.

Conversations between the POTUS and his Chief of Staff are often private, and therefore hearsay.

It comes down to trust.

Trust a man who continually lies and refuses to take account for any of his actions or words?

Trust a man with a long military career and record of service to our country.
 
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Conversations between the POTUS and his Chief of Staff are often private, and therefore hearsay.

It comes down to trust.

Trust a man who continually lies and refuses to take account for any of his actions or words?

Trust a man with a long military career and record of service to our country.
You obviously know nothing about Generals. They are the most narcissistic, back-stabbing, selfish, and self-centerted of them all. They didn't get into their positions of power because of merit, but on top of all the bodies they have back-stabbed and betrayed to get where they are at now. So, lying about an opponent is absolutely something you'd expect from a general with higher aspirations.
 
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You obviously know nothing about Generals. They are the most narcissistic, back-stabbing, selfish, and self-centerted of them all. They didn't get into their positions of power because of merit, but on top of all the bodies they have back-stabbed and betrayed to get where they are at now. So, lying about an opponent is absolutely something you'd expect from a general with higher aspirations.

...ah, so now you're throwing the entire Senior office corp under the MAGA bus?

Do trust, honor and fidelity to the U.S. Consitution mean nothing?
 
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...ah, so now you're throwing the entire Senior office corp under the MAGA bus?

Do trust, honor and fidelity to the U.S. Consitution mean nothing?
What does the Constitution have to do with narcissistic Generals with personal agendas and selfish ambitions?
 
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What does the Constitution have to do with narcissistic Generals with personal agendas and selfish ambitions?

“I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So, help me God.”
 
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“I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So, help me God.”
Oh? That is the same oath of office that Trump swore at his inauguration. Therefore, he must be telling the truth...according to your logic.
 
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Oh? That is the same oath of office that Trump swore at his inauguration.
It is not. The presidential oath, per the Constitution, is:

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
 
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It is not. The presidential oath, per the Constitution, is:

I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
My point remains the same.
 
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Trump is getting dementia, and is most likely unfit to be president. He is way different mentally speaking compared to back in 2016. The Republicans have to put up a new candidate, one who is polite-mannered, and classy.
I see a clear decline in him in just these few months of the campaign, especially since the time of his debate with Biden. It wouldn't be right to put such an old and clearly tired man through the stresses of the presidency for another 4 years though it's too late for the GOP to change course now.
 
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That's an aggregation of data by a website belonging to Steve Ballmer.

The usual...

"STEVE BALLMER IS LYING!!! OMB IS LYING! THE CENSUS BUREAU IS LYING! THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT IS LYING! THEY ARE ALL LYING!!!"
 
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To be fair, Trump didn't cause the pandemic. He bungled the response, and caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands more Americans than would have died if he had competently addressed the issue.

A large part of the economic disaster, (from which the United States is still recovering) was his fault. But not all of it.
 
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