Trump's closing argument? Really???

[essentialsaltes]

Neither did Martin Luther King. What's your point?

Trump has seen more combat action that most veterans.

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Trump has more than proven that he is willing to take a bullet for this country and, whether you want to admit it or not, the polls are showing it. In two weeks Trump will be the 47th president of the United States and gets to tell Kamala and Joe, "You're Fired!"

 

[FreeinChrist]

Regardless, Trump has seen more combat action that most veterans. That is an undeniable fact that you cannot deny. Therefore, based on the logic, that makes Trump a hero.

That is one of the most ridiculous things I have read.

BTW, duties and tariffs are different.

 

[FreeinChrist]

Yeah it was a truly stupid move that put other people in danger.

One other person did die when someone tried to assassinate Trump. Does Trump mention him at all? no.

 

[FreeinChrist]

Trump has had no combat action.
He was speaking to his adoring audience, he loves speaking and having the masses cheer him as he speaks.

He would do all he can to avoid any military service.

Well, he does do combat with his hair every morning.

 

[FreeinChrist]

This article in The Atlantic sums up Trump and his lack of understanding of the military and it's codes, and his personal failures to keep promises. That magazine usually allows folks a few free reads.

Trump: ‘I Need the Kind of Generals That Hitler Had’

The Republican nominee’s preoccupation with dictators, and his disdain for the American military, is deepening.

www.theatlantic.com

Trump has often expressed his esteem for the type of power wielded by such autocrats as the Chinese leader Xi Jinping; his admiration, even jealousy, of Vladimir Putin is well known. In recent days, he has signaled that, should he win reelection in November, he would like to govern in the manner of these dictators—he has said explicitly that he would like to be a dictator for a day on his first day back in the White House—and he has threatened to, among other things, unleash the military on “radical-left lunatics.” (One of his four former national security advisers, John Bolton, wrote in his memoir, “It is a close contest between Putin and Xi Jinping who would be happiest to see Trump back in office.”)​

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Military leaders have condemned Trump for possessing autocratic tendencies. At his retirement ceremony last year, Milley said, “We don’t take an oath to a king, or a queen, or to a tyrant or dictator, and we don’t take an oath to a wannabe dictator … We take an oath to the Constitution, and we take an oath to the idea that is America, and we’re willing to die to protect it.” Over the past several years, Milley has privately told several interlocutors that he believed Trump to be a fascist. Many other leaders have also been shocked by Trump’s desire for revenge against his domestic critics. At the height of the Floyd protests, Mattis wrote, “When I joined the military, some 50 years ago, I swore an oath to support and defend the Constitution. Never did I dream that troops taking that same oath would be ordered under any circumstance to violate the Constitutional rights of their fellow citizens.”​

 

[Oompa Loompa]

That is one of the most ridiculous things I have read.

BTW, duties and tariffs are different.

I don't think it is ridiculous at all. 90% of the military never see combat. Therefore, prior to his first assassination attempt, he has exactly the same combat experience as 90% of the military. But he was shot and hit in the head, which although not combat, is more action than most military experience. That was my point, a point that demonstrates that Trump is willing to risk his life for the country.

 

[FreeinChrist]

It is ridiculous.

 

[The Barbarian]

Is she talking in a vulgar way in interviews and rallies? Nope.

Nice shoot-down of possibly the most pitiful attempt at whataboutism I've ever seen.

 

[The Barbarian]

I don't think it is ridiculous at all. 90% of the military never see combat. Therefore, prior to his first assassination attempt, he has exactly the same combat experience as 90% of the military.

Trump had already claimed to be a "great and very brave soldier" much earlier:
In an unearthed interview from 1997, Donald Trump claimed he was a "brave soldier" for avoiding STDs during his single years in the late '90s.

"It's amazing, I can't even believe it. I've been so lucky in terms of that whole world, it is a dangerous world out there. It's like Vietnam, sort of. It is my personal Vietnam. I feel like a great and very brave solider," Trump said in the interview when Howard Stern asked how he handled making sure he wasn't contracting STDs from the women he was sleeping with.

Donald Trump Calls Avoiding STDs His 'Personal Vietnam'

Donald Trump likens avoiding contracting STDs during his single years to Vietnam in Howard Stern interview

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It makes it more understandable that he considers real troops to be "suckers" and "losers."

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

"Former President Trump highlighted the size of the late golf legend Arnold Palmer’s genitalia during a rally Saturday evening in Pennsylvania, a critical battleground state that will be decisive in determining which party wins the White House in a little more than two weeks."

Which "Christian principles is he exemplifying?

 

[Oompa Loompa]

It makes it more understandable that he considers real troops to be "suckers" and "losers."

He never said that. That was a fake accusation as part of a smear campaign.

 

[The Barbarian]

He never said that.

General Kelly says he did.

John Kelly confirms Trump privately disparaged U.S. service members and veterans

Trump called fallen soldiers "suckers” and "losers" during his presidency, according to a 2020 report in The Atlantic.

www.nbcnews.com

And Kelly isn't a habitual liar like Trump.

I know... "GENERAL KELLY IS LYING!!! THEY ARE ALL LYING!!"

 

[Oompa Loompa]

General Kelly says he did.

John Kelly confirms Trump privately disparaged U.S. service members and veterans

Trump called fallen soldiers "suckers” and "losers" during his presidency, according to a 2020 report in The Atlantic.

www.nbcnews.com

And Kelly isn't a habitual liar like Trump.

I know... "GENERAL KELLY IS LYING!!! THEY ARE ALL LYING!!"

And other people in the room said Trump didn't say that. So yes, Kelly is an angry, bitter General that Trump fired years ago who has been dug out of obscurity by the DNC to conduct their predictable October smear campaign. Honesty, this only shows how desperate the Harris campaign is in that they have reported to slinging old mud thinking it will do anything to change the inevitable outcome.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Actually, Trump did not do so well at that barbershop.

Leaked video reveals Fox News edited out Trump's 'rambling comments and false claims'​

During one point in Trump's chat with Black voters in a New York barbershop, the former president was asked about eliminating federal taxes.

On the Fox News broadcast, Trump was simply shown saying that "there's a way" to get the job done -- but the full video shows something else entirely.

"That response from Trump actually came more than seven minutes later, after Trump... brought up other topics, including inheritances, the Keystone Pipeline, Ronald Reagan, Russia, and transgender sports players," CNN writes. "Trump had to be nudged back on track several times by the unnamed audience member, who kept circling back, apologetically, and said 'I wasn’t able to finish my question.' After he repeated his tax inquiry yet again, Trump said 'there is a way.'"

 

[Bradskii]

Trump has more than proven that he is willing to take a bullet for this country...

The facts of the matter is that he avoided conscription on five separate ocassions. Someone else went in his place each time. His VP pick served with honour. As did Walz. As did many others on both sides of the political fence.

We have clubs in Australia called RSLs (returned servicemen's league). Anyone can go and have a drink and a meal. The one near me is my local watering hole. There are pictures of all the locals that have served and died on the walls (the one of one young man I find particularly poignant as he's the spitting image of my son).

Every day at 6:00pm everything stops. No bar service, no music. No talking. Everyone stands and turns to face the eternal flame that flickers in the corner. One of the staff then recites this:

They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old:
Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.
At the going down of the sun and in the morning
We will remember them.

The last line is softly repeated by everyone. There's a brief pause. And then it's back to normal.

Comparing Trump to these men because someone took a shot at him? It's an insult to their memory.

 

[doubtingmerle]

One good way to determine what someone is going to do or might do, is to look at their track record regarding the matter. Does Trump have a track record for dramatically raising the national debt? Which administration raised the national debt more, the Trump administration, or the Biden/Harris administration?

During the Trump administration, spending went up and revenue went down.

During the Biden administration, revenue went up and spending went down.

Source: What is the US national debt and how has it grown over time?

Does that answer your question?

 

[ozso]

During the Trump administration, spending went up and revenue went down.

During the Biden administration, revenue went up and spending went down.


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Source: What is the US national debt and how has it grown over time?

Does that answer your question?

That's an aggregation of data by a website belonging to Steve Ballmer.

 

[doubtingmerle]

That's according to a website belonging to Steve Ballmer.

Can you quote a better source, please?

 

[RocksInMyHead]

That's an aggregation of data by a website belonging to Steve Ballmer.

And? The website gives the sources for its data. You're welcome to check their work if you believe it might be biased. Simply dismissing it because you don't like the owner of the website is pretty lame.