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Trump's closing argument? Really???

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The democrats are much worse than Trump. The only difference is the democrats think their filth is politically acceptable such nazi and racist. Are they so dense they don't even reallize that is name calling?
And the Dem Senate candidate in my state can't speak a sentence without the "f" word. And sometimes the "f" word is the sentence.
It’s a word and perhaps generational to use it less or more. Trump is the most vulgar President/ Candidate I can recall. He really likes to brag about genitals whether he is grabbing them or admiring them.
 
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It is probably not a good idea to bring up Vietnam.
When discussing Trump?
That is why Trump doesn't hide it. He said "I wasn't going to Vietnam"
I think it was more like 'Phew, I'm not going to Vietnam'.

But you think he refused out of some deep seated principle? Please, I bruised a rib yesterday. It hurts when I laugh. Yeah, he didn't hide the fact that he felt oh so dissapointed that someone else had to go in his place. From here: Trump says he "would've been honored" to serve in Vietnam War

'But he said he would have been happy and honored to have served. "I would not have minded that at all. I would've been honored..."

Yet he managed to get out of it on five separate ocassions.
 
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Here's the thing: No, I don't like Trump. Yes, he's said some very horrible and crude things. I will not deny that.

I am voting for the candidate based on POLICIES. Nothing more, nothing less.

I don't like either candidate that much to begin with. I find it so disappointing to be honest.
But you'll accept that he's the type of man that will denigrate war heroes, assault women and talk for 15 minutes at a rally about the size of someone's penis.

What in heaven's name does he have to do before you think 'No, that's not acceptable'? And that's not a rhetorical question. I really want to know. If everything that he has said and done already does not disqualify him in your eyes, then at what point does he cross the line? What is too much for you?
 
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What in heaven's name does he have to do before you think 'No, that's not acceptable'? And that's not a rhetorical question. I really want to know. If everything that he has said and done already does not disqualify him in your eyes, then at what point does he cross the line? What is too much for you?
Well, what would disqualify him?
If he said:
Abortion is a right
Gender is fluid
Raise the death taxes
Open the border
Tax unrealized capital gains
Ban gasoline appliances
Ban gasoline autos by 2035

And you get my drift.
If Trump said any of those things I would not vote for him
 
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Well, what would disqualify him?
If he said:
Abortion is a right
Gender is fluid
Raise the death taxes
Open the border
Tax unrealized capital gains
Ban gasoline appliances
Ban gasoline autos by 2035

And you get my drift.
If Trump said any of those things I would not vote for him
Gosh, my bad. I wasn't clear enough, obviously. Silly me. I was talking about his personal characteristics not his politics. May I ask you to try again?
 
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I doubt that will happen, unfortunately.
well I think they will have too, wether trump wins this election or not I don't see him being well enough to run in 4 years, he's starting to show his age, and likely has at least early dementia.
 
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This reminds me of how often I hear the term "clutching at pearls".

Given that the right freaks out about trans even thinking of using a bathroom, why is it fine for a someone that got in trouble for actual sexual assault talking about penises, in a rally likely with kids okay? The right has made a profession out of pearl cluttching but with trump it's suddenly fine?
 
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Gosh, my bad. I wasn't clear enough, obviously. Silly me. I was talking about his personal characteristics not his politics. May I ask you to try again?
I don't get it.
Kamala posted a video of a supposedly Catholic school girl whose skirt was not covering her knees.
When is the left such a bunch of prudes?
A woman doesn't get on television in a skirt that covers her panties and a top she is not falling out of.
Yet when Trump talks "locker talk" in front of everyone, they faint in shock.
Or is it all a sham just to bash Trump believing that Christians will vote for Democrats in pearl clutching outrage?

I mean really, get a grip boys.
 
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I mean really, get a grip boys.
So, there's nothing you can think of? Saying it's ok to grab women by the genitals, being found to have sexually assaulted a woman, denigrating war heroes, discussing the size of someone's penis for 15 minutes at a rally...they're all fine. And you can't think of a point where you'd draw the line?

Maybe if the woman he was talking about was your daughter, or the woman he sexually assaulted was your mother, or the war hero perhaps your father...does that make a difference? Maybe it does, I don't know. I honestly don't understand it.

When does rejecting all of that become someone simply being prudish? Is that the standard now? He's talking about fondling teenager's genitals and if we complain we are prudes?
 
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Given that the right freaks out about trans even thinking of using a bathroom, why is it fine for a someone that got in trouble for actual sexual assault talking about penises, in a rally likely with kids okay? The right has made a profession out of pearl cluttching but with trump it's suddenly fine?
Those who say clutching at pearls ad infinitum are in no position to do so themselves.
 
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Gosh, my bad. I wasn't clear enough, obviously. Silly me. I was talking about his personal characteristics not his politics. May I ask you to try again?
Oh yes a politician's characteristics are so much more important than their politics.
 
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Oh yes a politician's characteristics are so much more important than his politics.
A politician's character should determine whether he first gets into a position where he can even begin to start discussing his policies.

'He raped and killed 4 women and murdered their children'.
'But let's see how his policies stack up before we make any rash decisions'.
 
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When does rejecting all of that become someone simply being prudish? Is that the standard now? He's talking about fondling teenager's genitals and if we complain we are prudes?
What enquiring minds want to know is when did Kamala's husband stop beating his wife.
 
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But you'll accept that he's the type of man that will denigrate war heroes, assault women and talk for 15 minutes at a rally about the size of someone's penis.

What in heaven's name does he have to do before you think 'No, that's not acceptable'? And that's not a rhetorical question. I really want to know. If everything that he has said and done already does not disqualify him in your eyes, then at what point does he cross the line? What is too much for you?
I don’t know anymore. I just really don’t know what to think anymore.

This election and the candidates are just depressing.

It’s an awful situation, in my humble opinion.
 
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well I think they will have too, wether trump wins this election or not I don't see him being well enough to run in 4 years, he's starting to show his age, and likely has at least early dementia.
He’s showing his age, yes. I’ll let professionals decide if he has dementia or not because I’m not qualified to comment.
 
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What enquiring minds want to know is when did Kamala's husband stop beating his wife.
What? That makes zero sense in this context. Look, if you can't think of anything that he could do that would prevent you from voting for him, then simply say so.
 
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I don’t know anymore. I just really don’t know what to think anymore.
And it's not my place to tell you what to think. But I know what you should be thinking. You should be thinking that this man is not fit for for office.

I doubt that you'd want to work for someone like this. I think that you wouldn't invite someone like this into your house. You'd do your best to avoid having anything to do with him. But you think he's suitable to be the the president of your country? You think he should represent the United States on the world stage?

I really don't get it. Honestly. I really don't get it.
 
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And it's not my place to tell you what to think. But I know what you should be thinking. You should be thinking that this man is not fit for for office.

I doubt that you'd want to work for someone like this. I think that you wouldn't invite someone like this into your house. You'd do your best to avoid having anything to do with him. But you think he's suitable to be the the president of your country? You think he should represent the United States on the world stage?

I really don't get it. Honestly. I really don't get it.
Before he died my brother used to rant about Trump raping babies and old ladies or whatever.
All the gossip based on claims by women who probably never even met Trump.

Let me put this plainly. Trump has been in the spotlight for years.
Every move has been accompanied by security agents and photographers and hangerons.
Think of those scandal magazines from years ago when a person standing in the grocery checkout line could read all about Trump almost every other day. Remember those photos and blaring headlines?
Prince Andrew could not lie to the Queen because his security would rat him out.
That man could not go in a bathroom alone much less into a broom closet with a woman and not have it on the front page of the scandal sheets the next day and talked all over town the next.
So what security, photographers and store managers rushing to wait on Trump and his entourage did the supposedly raped women notice on the day they can't remember and never mentioned until now, it all being worth a few million bucks.
Guilty until proven innocent, yes. But rave on.
 
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Before he died my brother used to rant about Trump raping babies and old ladies or whatever.
All the gossip based on claims by women who probably never even met Trump.

Let me put this plainly. Trump has been in the spotlight for years.
Every move has been accompanied by security agents and photographers and hangerons.
Think of those scandal magazines from years ago when a person standing in the grocery checkout line could read all about Trump almost every other day. Remember those photos and blaring headlines?
Prince Andrew could not lie to the Queen because his security would rat him out.
That man could not go in a bathroom alone much less into a broom closet with a woman and not have it on the front page of the scandal sheets the next day and talked all over town the next.
So what security, photographers and store managers rushing to wait on Trump and his entourage did the supposedly raped women notice on the day they can't remember and never mentioned until now, it all being worth a few million bucks.
Guilty until proven innocent, yes. But rave on.
What about the crimes he has been proven guilty of? Fraud (multiple counts), defamation, sexual assault, falsifying business records (34 felony convictions)?

Should those be considered when evaluating whether or not to vote for Donald Trump?

-- A2SG, would someone who committed those crimes be someone that should be hired as an employee. or as a babysitter....
 
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