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I think the issue here might be that they believe Biden hasn't done anything because Trump keeps thinking that Obama is the current president. And they can't say that Trump is wrong.
Biden is Obama.
 
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Nevertheless, if you find someone's behavior dangerous it is irresponsible not to consider it in your vote.

And physicians with NDAs may have diagnosed much worse.
Personally I think they both are a little "off"
 
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Biden is Obama.
I'm pretty sure one is quite younger than the other, married to different women, one has daughters while the other sons and if I'm not completely wrong, I think there's a slight difference in their skin pigmentation. Oh, and they have different names. Besides that, I guess it's easy for you to mistake one for the other.

But at least you didn't disappoint in trying to explain away Trump thinking Obama was still the president. Kinda blowing all credibility away when it comes to complaining about Biden having memory issues.
 
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Biden is Obama.

Yea, I'm sure that's what he meant. Next week it will be Haley. The week after Hillary. And so on. He could clearly say anything....
 
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Cognitive tests are so basic, it is not likely either of them would fail today.
I'll show you a picture of an animal, tell me what it is.
A) That's a car.

Sorry, you failed that on, it's actually an elephant.

Ohhhh, I saw the trunk and thought it must be a car. Next question please.

Did you know you can take a scaled back cognitive assessment on your own? It's called XpressO and it's offered by MoCA Cognition. | Digital tools

How does it work? Well, it's a little more complex than what you described. You start with 5 images. You are asked to order those images however you like, and then remember the order. You then complete a pattern of shapes, sizes and colors, and then you are shown about 25 images, and you must pick the 5 that were originally shown and put them back in the order you placed them. You do this three times while being timed, the patterns getting a little more complex with each iteration.

Anyone that wants to do this can go to the link above and try it for themselves.

How would Biden or Trump perform on such a test? We have no idea, because there are people on both sides trying to make believe their guy doesn't need a cognitive assessment. But I'm sure you'll be happy to hear that according to my test results, I have excellent cognition for a man in his mid-40s.
 
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So, not only are we wanting to investigate Trump again, this time for his cognitive abilities, but also, we want to investigate the media, for not having already investigated Trump on this.

...That's a lot of investigating.

Perhaps we need a word to describe a new Logical Fallacy, where an opponent calls for massive amounts of investigations in order to discredit a person, or 'poison a well'... Possibly even a new word in English for calling foul too much? Something to consider.

I think this would be the precursor to "lawfare"... Where it begins, but can also be applied to discredit something on it's own - not necessarily needing the law to accomplish it's

Personally I think they both are a little "off"
In that case you should consider character and morality. The differences are great. I would almost say an epic battle between good and evil, democracy and dictatorship...

Although, unbelievably, some people don't understand that a "dictator for a day" could--and very well might--erase democracy with a few executive orders in that day.
 
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In that case you should consider character and morality. The differences are great. I would almost say an epic battle between good and evil, democracy and dictatorship...

Although, unbelievably, some people don't understand that a "dictator for a day" could--and very well might--erase democracy with a few executive orders in that day.
The differences aren't all that great .... when a President signs something via executive order ... they are in a sense being a dictator .... they all do it.

I don't believe subverting our country to the "new world order" agenda is at all a good moral decision ... these organizations (WEF, WHO and the like --- many many of them) have diabolic (down right evil) ideas about things ... and the democratic party is all in with them. They also want and intend to make our constitution null and void and it is the only thing that gives all of us freedom ... or least-wise the hope of it.

It don't matter .... God's plan will play out no matter how many presidents come an go. I look forward to His return and ends this mess. Amen
 
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It don't matter .... God's plan will play out no matter how many presidents come an go. I look forward to His return and ends this mess. Amen
Right. I agree. :amen:
 
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Did you know you can take a scaled back cognitive assessment on your own? It's called XpressO and it's offered by MoCA Cognition. | Digital tools

How does it work? Well, it's a little more complex than what you described. You start with 5 images. You are asked to order those images however you like, and then remember the order. You then complete a pattern of shapes, sizes and colors, and then you are shown about 25 images, and you must pick the 5 that were originally shown and put them back in the order you placed them. You do this three times while being timed, the patterns getting a little more complex with each iteration.

Anyone that wants to do this can go to the link above and try it for themselves.

How would Biden or Trump perform on such a test? We have no idea, because there are people on both sides trying to make believe their guy doesn't need a cognitive assessment. But I'm sure you'll be happy to hear that according to my test results, I have excellent cognition for a man in his mid-40s.
Trump described the test he took. He was told five words, coincidently those 5 things were right in front of him when he was telling his story to the interviewer. But anyway, how he described it was that he had to remember the 5 words, getting them in the right order was a bonus, to which is doctor was amazed "how did you do that?" much like how I would respond when my infant eats solids for the first time.
 
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How does it work? Well, it's a little more complex than what you described.
I can see that one question is called "Naming"
and it has three images of animals. A Lion, a Rhinoceros and a camel. Pretty tricky for a person with cognitive deficiency, but probably easy for both Trump and Biden.

It doesn't give pictures of people they know and ask them to name them,
Like pictures of Joe Biden, of Nancy Pelosi and of E Jean Carrol

Of which Trump might say
Obama, Nicky Haley , Marla Maples
 
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I'm more bothered that Trump was able to be president at all. There needs to be medical , mental, and IQ testing before someone can run for president.Also they should have job experience in politics.
 
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Trump described the test he took. He was told five words, coincidently those 5 things were right in front of him when he was telling his story to the interviewer. But anyway, how he described it was that he had to remember the 5 words, getting them in the right order was a bonus, to which is doctor was amazed "how did you do that?" much like how I would respond when my infant eats solids for the first time.

Yes, there's no doubt that Trump embellished his results, like he always does.

But one has to wonder, if this is such a simple test that Biden could pass with ease, why he doesn't just take 15 minutes and take the test.
 
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Yes, there's no doubt that Trump embellished his results, like he always does.

But one has to wonder, if this is such a simple test that Biden could pass with ease, why he doesn't just take 15 minutes and take the test.
Probably because his doctor didn't recommend it. He shouldn't run around taking tests that random people (haters) on the internet want him to take.
 
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I can see that one question is called "Naming"
and it has three images of animals. A Lion, a Rhinoceros and a camel. Pretty tricky for a person with cognitive deficiency, but probably easy for both Trump and Biden.

I would encourage you to create a free account and take the test for yourself so you can speak about it intelligently.

You are shown 5 pictures. They do not ask you to name these pictures. They ask you to place them in any order you like. Then they ask you to remember the order in which you placed them. Then you do something completely different, ordering shapes in a pattern. Once you complete that you are shown 20+ images, of which the 5 you originally were shown are included. You then must choose the 5 items and place them in the correct order.

It's not rocket science, that's for sure. But it engages your mind in a way that can be helpful in diagnosing if there is any concerning cognitive decline.
 
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Probably because his doctor didn't recommend it. He shouldn't run around taking tests that random people (haters) on the internet want him to take.

It's not "random people on the Internet' that have these concerns. It's 75% of voters, including 50% of his own party. A simple 15- minute test would address these concerns.
 
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So, not only are we wanting to investigate Trump again, this time for his cognitive abilities, but also, we want to investigate the media, for not having already investigated Trump on this.

...That's a lot of investigating.

Perhaps we need a word to describe a new Logical Fallacy, where an opponent calls for massive amounts of investigations in order to discredit a person, or 'poison a well'... Possibly even a new word in English for calling foul too much? Something to consider.

I think this would be the precursor to "lawfare"... Where it begins, but can also be applied to discredit something on it's own - not necessarily needing the law to accomplish it's desired goals.
The “He must be guilty of something “ fallacy?
 
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