Trump shuts barn door after horses have left: Europe travel ban

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Trump was talking about the shameless manner in which Democratic partisans exploited the epidemic for political purposes. In this he was 100% correct.
It's funny how Trump lies so much that you seamlessy redefine the word hoax for him to cover.
 
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Trump was talking about the shameless manner in which Democratic partisans exploited the epidemic for political purposes. In this he was 100% correct.

Ah yes, the way they shamelessly tried to insist it was real and serious, and not something that would just disappear like a ‘miracle’.
 
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What is the point of restricting flights from Europe and then crowding 1000's of passengers at the airports for hours, waiting to be processed?

If there ever was a situation designed to promote the spread of COVIR-19, the airport authorities, in their infinite wisdom, created the perfect venue!
 
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What is the point of restricting flights from Europe and then crowding 1000's of passengers at the airports for hours, waiting to be processed?

If there ever was a situation designed to promote the spread of COVIR-19, the airport authorities, in their infinite wisdom, created the perfect venue!

Kind of like going 'zero tolerance' on children at the border, without adequately preparing for the need to shelter them, provide medical care, or even keep track of who their parents are. Poorly thought out plans lead to poor execution.
 
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Na, China is starting to get the shmooze treatment because they were so great and tough and contained it. The fact that they suppressed the warnings about the disease until it was already out of control is getting buried.

I recall plenty of press regarding the lack of transparency by the Chinese. Of course that was last month...
 
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I recall plenty of press regarding the lack of transparency by the Chinese. Of course that was last month...
What was true last month doesn't have to have been true today.
 
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Trump was talking about the shameless manner in which Democratic partisans exploited the epidemic for political purposes. In this he was 100% correct.

Shameless? For pointing out his lies...? They should have remained silent while he proclaimed the nonsense about “only 15 cases, soon zero...”??
 
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Shameless? For pointing out his lies...? They should have remained silent while he proclaimed the nonsense about “only 15 cases, soon zero...”??
Right. He didn’t actually call the virus a hoax. However in other statements he was clearly misleading about it.
 
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This too shall pass.

It's kind of interesting here how opinions on the ban are all over the place. People point to bans not working, then say we should have banned travel earlier. Others claim bans are xenophobic.

It all comes from a state of panic. The government is doing what it can and is trying to do what's best. It will make mistakes because that's what governments do. But we'll get it worked out in the end.

Put your faith in God and fear not. I'm 60 and in the danger zone. But you know what, I'm not afraid. If I get it, so be it. "To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord."

This isn't the end of the world.
 
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So are you for or against a travel ban?
Obviously Travel bans are required, alongside testing, something the US is well behind in. Like Italy, you banned travel early then rested on your laurels.
 
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He never said the virus was a hoax. That's been debunked
He treated the virus like it was not a serious problem, and accused those pointing out the fact that it is of perpetuating a hoax.
 
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Oh, well that's OK then. the US will be fine because some other country did something stupid.

This isn't a 0-sum game mate, you don't get to auto win because someone else loses. It's quite easy in this scenario for everyone to lose.


I was only pointing out how much worse Trudeau responded to the crisis than Trump. I suspect his incompetent leadership in this regard is based upon his proclivity to place more emphasis upon being seen as tolerant and inclusive . Placing those concerns above concerns for the well being of Canadian citizens. I don't believe any reasonable person could conclude that by pointing out Trudeau's incompetence I somehow could possibly be under the impression that Trudeau's incompetence, due IMO to the primary importance he seems to place on virtue signaling, would make the US more safe. On the contrary, it makes the US more vulnerable having such a poor decision maker on our border.
 
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Obviously Travel bans are required, alongside testing, something the US is well behind in. Like Italy, you banned travel early then rested on your laurels.
Nobody rested. They took action. The testing kits didn't work correctly, but they tried.
 
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