Trump says on Univision that if he wins, he is allowed to weaponize FBI, DOJ against his political enemies

[The Barbarian]

There was indeed a peaceful transfer of power on January 20th, 2021.

After the coup attempt failed on Jan 6:

 

[essentialsaltes]

Trump calls political enemies ‘vermin,’ echoing dictators Hitler, Mussolini​

Steven Cheung, a Trump campaign spokesman, told The Post “those who try to make that ridiculous assertion are clearly █████████ grasping for anything because they are suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome and their entire existence will be crushed when President Trump returns to the White House.”

Whew, that's a relief that these comparisons to fascism are baseless!

demolishing
expelling
driving out
casting out
throwing off
routing
evicting

I'd feel a lot better if he actually mentioned voting.

 

[The Barbarian]

I'd feel a lot better if he actually mentioned voting.

The republican party has given up on winning at the ballot box.

Former President Donald Trump spoke at a campaign rally in Derry, New Hampshire on Monday and at one point told his supporters they didn’t need to go vote.
...
“So, we have to be careful. You got to get out there and watch those voters,” Trump said, adding, “You don’t have to vote, don’t worry about voting. The voting, we got plenty of votes.”

Trump Tells Supporters ‘Don’t Worry About Voting’ On Election Night

The odd comment was quickly picked up by the Never Back Down PAC which backs Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’s (R) 2024 presidential bid

www.mediaite.com

 

[Pommer]

The republican party has given up on winning at the ballot box.

Former President Donald Trump spoke at a campaign rally in Derry, New Hampshire on Monday and at one point told his supporters they didn’t need to go vote.
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“So, we have to be careful. You got to get out there and watch those voters,” Trump said, adding, “You don’t have to vote, don’t worry about voting. The voting, we got plenty of votes.”

Trump Tells Supporters ‘Don’t Worry About Voting’ On Election Night

The odd comment was quickly picked up by the Never Back Down PAC which backs Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’s (R) 2024 presidential bid

www.mediaite.com

“The Only Way We Can Lose is if THEY CHEAT II” sequel looks to be “entertaining“.

 

[The Barbarian]

“The Only Way We Can Lose is if THEY CHEAT II” sequel looks to be “entertaining“.

Sounds like he's resigned to losing again, and claiming he won anyway. Maybe hiring better insurrectionists.

 

[wing2000]

"It's gonna be glorious."

House speaker Mike Johnson (R-LA) has also endorsed Trump, and on Friday he announced he was ordering the release of more than 40,000 hours of tapes from the January 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol, answering the demands of far-right congress members who insist the tapes will prove there was no such attack despite the conclusion of the House committee investigating the attack that Trump criminally conspired to overturn the lawful results of the 2020 presidential election and refused to stop his supporters from attacking the Capitol.

Trump loyalist Senator Mike Lee (R-UT) promptly spread a debunked conspiracy theory that one of the attackers shown in the tapes, Kevin Lyons, was actually a law enforcement officer hiding a badge. Lyons—who was not, in fact, a police officer—was carrying a vape and a photo he stole from then–House speaker Nancy Pelosi’s office and is now serving a 51-month prison sentence. (Former representative Liz Cheney (R-WY) tweeted: “Hey [Mike Lee]—heads up. A nutball conspiracy theorist appears to be posting from your account.”)

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MIke Davis, one of the men under consideration for attorney general, told a podcast host in September that he would “unleash hell on Washington, D.C.,” getting rid of career politicians, indicting President Joe Biden “and every other scumball, sleazeball Biden,” and helping pardon those found guilty of crimes associated with the January 6th attack on the U.S. Capitol. “We’re gonna deport a lot of people, 10 million people and growing—anchor babies, their parents, their grandparents,” Davis said. “We’re gonna put kids in cages. It’s gonna be glorious. We’re gonna detain a lot of people in the D.C. gulag and Gitmo.”

November 20, 2023

Yesterday, David Roberts of the energy and politics newsletter Volts noted that a Washington Post article illustrated how right-wing extremism is accomplishing its goal of destroying faith in democracy.

open.substack.com

 

[USincognito]

When they tell you who they are, believe them.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Sounds like he's resigned to losing again, and claiming he won anyway. Maybe hiring better insurrectionists.

He doesn't even need to bother running. We don't need elections anymore.

 

[Pommer]

He doesn't even need to bother running. We don't need elections anymore.

He could just declare himself KING PRESIDENT!

 

[The Barbarian]

He doesn't even need to bother running. We don't need elections anymore.

When the cult loses any hope of winning over a majority of Americans, they will disparage elections for the obvious reason.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

When the cult loses any hope of winning over a majority of Americans, they will disparage elections for the obvious reason.

I think that "when" is now.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Trump sidesteps question when asked if he plans to abuse power if reelected​

Former President Donald Trump has repeatedly told his supporters he will serve as their “retribution” if he is elected again in 2024.

“I’m going to be, you know he keeps, we love this guy, he says, ‘You’re not going to be a dictator, are you?’ I said, ‘No, no, other than day one. We’re closing the border and we’re drilling, drilling, drilling.’ After that I’m not a dictator,” Trump said.

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Just a little bit of dictatorship -- I guess that's not so bad.

 

[The Barbarian]

Just a little bit of dictatorship -- I guess that's not so bad.

It's what every dictator says - before he gets power.

 

[wing2000]

Trump sidesteps question when asked if he plans to abuse power if reelected​

Former President Donald Trump has repeatedly told his supporters he will serve as their “retribution” if he is elected again in 2024.

“I’m going to be, you know he keeps, we love this guy, he says, ‘You’re not going to be a dictator, are you?’ I said, ‘No, no, other than day one. We’re closing the border and we’re drilling, drilling, drilling.’ After that I’m not a dictator,” Trump said.

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Just a little bit of dictatorship -- I guess that's not so bad.

....and the crowd cheered.

 

[KCfromNC]

....and the crowd cheered.

No way these leopards are going to eat my face, says group voting for face eating leopards party.

 

[Ana the Ist]

In this thread, let's continue to talk about the topic of the thread, which is Trump's threat to use the power of government to attack his political enemies.

Well it's clearly based on his belief that he's being persecuted by the government.

I think more importantly, since the left appears to have decided to not give it's own voters a choice in President nominees...and wants to jail their biggest competition, we don't really need to worry about "what would happen to our democracy" if Trump gets elected. We don't have a democracy if we aren't given a real choice.

 

[The Barbarian]

essentialsaltes said:

In this thread, let's continue to talk about the topic of the thread, which is Trump's threat to use the power of government to attack his political enemies.

Well it's clearly based on his belief that he's being persecuted by the government.

Paranoia is a common thread among dictators and wannabee dictators. Stalin was constantly convinced that people were planning to do him in.
Despite Stalin’s every meal undergoing numerous tests by his security force to make sure it wasn’t poisoned, he was still very paranoid. During the Great Purge in late 1930s his paranoia became worse.

3 things Stalin feared most

Soviet propaganda painted Joseph Stalin as a relentless man of steel with no weaknesses. The truth, however, was very different: The leader of the...

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I think more importantly, since the left appears to have decided to not give it's own voters a choice in President nominees...

Which Democrats could run against Joe Biden in 2024?​

It's a long year until the party formally crowns a nominee

Which Democrats could run against Joe Biden in 2024?

It's a long year until the party formally crowns a nominee

theweek.com

Far as I know, democrats plan on running primaries, anyone can run. Whether or not enough democrats vote for someone else, is an open question. It's not like Russia, where the ruler picks who gets to run.

and wants to jail their biggest competition

Millions of republicans want him in jail, too...

At this point, roughly half of the country believes that Trump committed the crimes alleged against him.

Forty-nine percent of respondents — including 25 percent of Republicans — said that they believe Trump is guilty in the pending federal prosecution, which alleges that he willfully retained sensitive government documents after leaving office and obstructed a subsequent federal investigation. A nearly identical 48 percent of respondents — including 24 percent of Republicans — believe that Trump is guilty in the Manhattan DA’s pending prosecution, which alleges that Trump falsified business records in connection with a payment to the porn star Stormy Daniels in the run-up to the 2016 election in order to keep her quiet about an alleged sexual relationship between the two.

A New Poll on the Trump Indictments Has a Surprising Result

A new POLITICO Magazine/Ipsos poll finds one thing that unites people on the Trump indictments.

www.politico.com

And a strong majority of democrats and republicans want the trials to end before the elections.

Nearly two-thirds of respondents (62 percent) said that the trial in the pending federal prosecution should take place before the presidential election next November — a figure that includes nearly half of Republican respondents (46 percent). A lower number, but a still-solid majority, said that the trial should take place before the Republican primaries begin early next year (57 percent of all respondents, including 42 percent of Republican respondents).
ibid

Which suggests that many people haven't yet decided and want to see how the trials turn out.

We don't have a democracy if we aren't given a real choice.

Turns out, that if the republicans want, they can still run Trump, even if he's found guilty of any or all of those indictments. Likewise, anyone who wants to run against Biden in the primaries and meets the age and citizenship requirement is free to do it. Again, not like Russia, but that's how things work here.

 

[wing2000]

Well it's clearly based on his belief that he's being persecuted by the government.

Well clearly, Mr Trump does not want to be held accountable by a court of law. Less clear is why you continue to project his argument of "persecution."

 

[Ana the Ist]

Paranoia is a common thread among dictators and wannabee dictators. Stalin was constantly convinced that people were planning to do him in.

It's only paranoia if they aren't out to get you.

Which Democrats could run against Joe Biden in 2024?​

It's a long year until the party formally crowns a nominee

Which Democrats could run against Joe Biden in 2024?

It's a long year until the party formally crowns a nominee

theweek.com

No presidential primary for Florida Democrats after party submits only Biden’s name

Biden’s long-shot primary rivals criticized the decision.

www.tampabay.com

It's not as if he has any strong competition. Still, no choice given.

Millions of republicans want him in jail, too...

At this point, roughly half of the country believes that Trump committed the crimes alleged against him.

I've no doubt.

And a strong majority of democrats and republicans want the trials to end before the elections.

I'm inclined to think they mean way before the election....in time to run a candidate.

Turns out, that if the republicans want, they can still run Trump, even if he's found guilty of any or all of those indictments.

True...but it's now clear they want him off the ballot as well.

Likewise, anyone who wants to run against Biden in the primaries and meets the age and citizenship requirement is free to do it. Again, not like Russia, but that's how things work here.

Well anyone can run in Russia too...it's just a choice that increases one's odds of falling out a window.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Well clearly, Mr Trump does not want to be held accountable by a court of law. Less clear is why you continue to project his argument of "persecution."

Well what do you consider political persecution?

Would you consider, for example, the blacklisting of communists during the McCarthy Era to be "political persecution"?