Trump: Puerto Ricans "want everything done for them"

[mark kennedy]

They are more culturally conservative, but that doesn't automatically translate into voting Republican, unlike in mainland US politics.

I'm pretty conservative and rarely vote Republican. But your right, not a lot of us around anymore.

 

[Saucy]

This is going to be my last post on this subject. I know what I say isn't taken seriously, but just like you guys feel the need to fight for what you believe, so am I. Maybe I'm just a conspiracy theorist, but there's a lot more going on out there. Things that aren't being reported and if they are, they aren't being reported accurately.

This is just ONE of many stories coming out of Puerto Rico:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1320015924794123

It is apparent to me that something is going on behind the scenes in Puerto Rico. It has become a staging ground to create this fake narrative and it's all political. We should never politicize disasters. Never. No matter what you think of the guy, during these times, we need to back up our president, the first responders, the military, the police, the volunteers, and stop this nonsense.

Me saying above that I would stop defending Trump as much wasn't me saying I just voted Trump to stick a middle finger at liberals. I actually lean left on a lot of issues. I admitted that I'm pro-DACA and came around on the single-payer insurance. I learn as much from you guys as I do from anything else.

So, please don't just disregard where my heart really is on these issues. My niece is Puerto Rican and has family down there. Dear friends have family down there. I DO care. And if I felt Trump was sitting on his hands and doing nothing, I would be the FIRST one to criticize him for it. I really would. But that woman is a liar. If the aid isn't getting out, despite the tough logistics that were presented in the beginning, it is on THEM!

THEY aren't doing enough. THEY aren't going to the meetings to help organize it, as it was revealed today. THEY are holding onto the aid. THEY are playing politics. If people are dying, it's because THEY are letting people die.

 

[Glass*Soul]

Well the good news is there is going to be plenty of work, it's a heck of a way to get it.

I think you've echoed by cousin's sentiments pretty well.

 

[Glass*Soul]

Theyre going to kill themselves if they're not linemen. Curently, I have been offered a job there, flying out of N.Y. on Oct. 8 to work 7 days a week, 14 hrs. A day for the next 3 month's.

...I turNed it down because once there, you cannot leave, and I don't want to be gone for Christmas and I don't need the money that bad.

They are experienced in this sort of work.

 

[Saucy]

Here's another one:

The mayor of a Puerto Rican city that sits next to San Juan praised the administration's help Saturday night, and chided the "politics" of San Juan Mayor Carmen Yulin Cruz, who has been criticizing President Trump.

In an interview with Secrets, Guaynabo Mayor Angel Perez Otero said that in several meetings with FEMA and U.S. military officials about the recovery effort, Yulin Cruz has been absent. "I've seen other mayors participating. She's not," said Perez Otero.

Neighboring mayor praises Trump, says San Juan mayor playing 'politics,' AWOL at meetings

 

[CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN]

I know I'll get accused of whataboutism, but I feel the need to lay out how many times Obama went golfing during disasters.

Washington Post: Obama is golfing during Louisiana flooding because he 'detests' theatrical politics - Hot Air

BIAS ALERT: Media that ripped Bush on Katrina ignores Obama on La. flooding

Obama on golfing after Foley statement: Bad optics - CNNPolitics

Obama Goes Golfing as Nashville Suffers From Biggest Disaster Since Civil War

PostPartisan - Shocking! Obama plays golf during BP oil spill!

As Crisis Unfolds, Obama Sets Personal Golf Record | White House Dossier

Are you saying Obama and Bush didn't send money and help to help these people? It cost more money for presidents to come to these things. But they still can send money and help. And why did Trump care so much about the hurricanes in Texas and Florida. THe states that help him get elected. And playing blame games on Puerto Rico. That didn't get him elected.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

They are more culturally conservative, but that doesn't automatically translate into voting Republican, unlike in mainland US politics.

A lot of people who are culturally conservative have a hard time voting Republican if they don't fall perfectly in line with the particular form of American culture the Republicans choose to promote.

 

[Yonny Costopoulis]

I just proved this chick was LYING about Trump on national TV, and you guys ripped him to shreds over many pages of this thread over it.

You prove no such thing.

And guess what? It all happened exactly how it always happens. Trump says something, the media blows up, the liberals are outraged

Trump defends Nazis and KKK and you are surprised that "media blows up and liberals are outraged"?

then more facts come out, and the story goes away.

Why are you are inventing fantasy? No new facts came out. Trump defended Nazis and KKK. Is why so many on presidential councils and committees resign.

 

[Saucy]

You prove no such thing.



Trump defends Nazis and KKK and you are surprised that "media blows up and liberals are outraged"?


Why are you are inventing fantasy? No new facts came out. Trump defended Nazis and KKK. Is why so many on presidential councils and committees resign.

And the funny thing is, you can't point to a single time Trump defended Nazis. Are you referring to Charlottesville? When he said THAT VERY NIGHT that he condemns hatred and bigotry in the strongest possible terms? Or, when that wasn't good enough and the liberals sniffled and whined, he said it again, specifically calling out white supremacists and condemning it AGAIN? Or are you really mad that he told the absolute TRUTH the third time by saying both sides were to blame for the violence?

Sorry, the ones creating fantasy here are you and your liberal friends.

 

[FireDragon76]

I'm pretty conservative and rarely vote Republican. But your right, not a lot of us around anymore.

One thing to consider is that Republicans, increasingly, are not real conservatives so much as reactionaries and ideologues.

 

[Saucy]

Are you saying Obama and Bush didn't send money and help to help these people? It cost more money for presidents to come to these things. But they still can send money and help. And why did Trump care so much about the hurricanes in Texas and Florida. THe states that help him get elected. And playing blame games on Puerto Rico. That didn't get him elected.

Except, that's not what happened in Trump's case. According to the Governor of Puerto Rico, Trump has been involved since day one. He has done everything Puerto Rico has asked of him. My point is that people say, "Oh Trump went golfing and didn't care".

Well:

Obama gets update on deadly Louisiana floods, heads back to golf course

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...hotojournalist-James-Foleys-executioners.html

Obama gets briefed on rioting in Milwaukee while on vacation

And do you know what I actually did when these stories came out? I defended President Obama. I know presidents have the most stressful jobs, probably in the whole world. If they have to golf as an outlet, GOOD! Let them do it! They are NEVER truly away from what's going on in the world. They're still in the loop and making decisions.

What I hate is this notion that because Trump is at his golf club (a place he owns, belongs to him, and he considers his home), people think he's just slacking on the job. Well, Trump isn't slacking, just like Obama wasn't slacking, just like Bush wasn't slacking.

 

[Yonny Costopoulis]

And the funny thing is, you can't point to a single time Trump defended Nazis. Are you referring to Charlottesville? When he said THAT VERY NIGHT that he condemns hatred and bigotry in the strongest possible terms? Or, when that wasn't good enough and the liberals sniffled and whined, he said it again, specifically calling out white supremacists and condemning it AGAIN? Or are you really mad that he told the absolute TRUTH the third time by saying both sides were to blame for the violence?

Sorry, the ones creating fantasy here are you and your liberal friends.

This is what White Supremacist say about Trump statement:
“Trump comments were good,” wrote the Daily Stormer, a leading American neo-Nazi website associated with the so-called “alt-right” movement. “He didn’t attack us. He just said the nation should come together. Nothing specific against us,”

“He said he loves us all,” the site continued. “No condemnation at all.”

That is why so many on presidential councils and committees resign over blatant Trump defense of Nazis and KKK? Trump say some Nazis and KKK "very nice people". That defending Nazis and KKK.

Sorry to ask but is English your native language? Ask because I know if it is not is possible to misunderstand.

Here is quote from letter from entire Presidential Committee on Arts and Humanities:
“Reproach and censure in the strongest possible terms are necessary following your support of the hate groups and terrorists who killed and injured fellow Americans in Charlottesville,” the letter says. “The false equivalencies you push cannot stand.”

 

[mark kennedy]

One thing to consider is that Republicans, increasingly, are not real conservatives so much as reactionaries and ideologues.

The alt-right is nationalistic and bear little resemblance to old school conservatives.

 

[Yonny Costopoulis]

One thing to consider is that Republicans, increasingly, are not real conservatives so much as reactionaries and ideologues.

Over half century of using racist Southern Strategy to attract voters was never going to attract "best and brightest" to party.

Instead end up with leaders like Trump.

 

[Go Braves]

The irony of Trump tweeting out that out while sitting on his fat butt at his golf course, where he's too lazy to carry his own clubs & has dozens of servants to do everything for him.

 

[Go Braves]

Our president is a child.

Agree that he behaves like one but with a child there's still hope there. You can correct a child, train him on the ways to go. He's an example of what happens when you let a child believe he's entitled to whatever he wants & that he can behave however he pleases without consequence.

 

[RDKirk]

Communication is sparse, but it seems that everyone is doing everything they can for each other. No one seems to know what made him say this or where he's getting that information from, as per usual. If you would like to try to find something that supports his statement, you are more than welcome to do so.

And keep in mind that any local workers are in the exact same situation as everyone else.

I was just about to point that out as a difference from Houston (not far from me) and Puerto Rico.

My church, other churches, other aid societies, other local governments were outside the disaster area and had quick overland access to the disaster area. We sat high and dry (barely even got any rain), only a couple of hours drive from the disaster area.

People who were actually in the disaster area were essentially helpless. If there had been a wall around the Houston area, they would have been "shucks, out of luck."

Puerto Rico was wiped out, everyone was destitute, and it got worse over time as they used up what resources were left or accessible after the storm. There wasn't help just a couple of hours drive away.

I have a friend whose mother is retired in San Juan. She lives in a concrete-block apartment building at a high enough floor that her own apartment was left intact (windows broken, some flooding from wind-blown rain). But she's had no power, she can't find gasoline, and she has no water. She's able at this point to spend the entire day searching for food and water...and she has to do that every day. She communicates with her daughter through another friend's cell phone, which has data communication capability, but not voice communication.

She has just recently accepted my friend's plea to get the heck out of Puerto Rico and live with her, because the situation there is going to deteriorate before it gets better.