Trump preferred over Lincoln by Republicans

[GACfan]

One of the most durable myths in recent history is that the religious right, the coalition of conservative evangelicals and fundamentalists, emerged as a political movement in response to the U.S. Supreme Court’s 1973 Roe v. Wade ruling legalizing abortion.

....But the abortion myth quickly collapses under historical scrutiny. In fact, it wasn’t until 1979—a full six years after Roe—that evangelical leaders, at the behest of conservative activist Paul Weyrich, seized on abortion not for moral reasons, but as a rallying-cry to deny President Jimmy Carter a second term. Why? Because the anti-abortion crusade was more palatable than the religious right’s real motive: protecting segregated schools.

That was the article I was thinking of while I read the OP. I think it fits the narrative of this thread.

The Real Origins of the Religious Right

 

[Aryeh Jay]

I don’t like Lincoln because he served (The Black Hawk War), I prefer President who didn’t serve.

 

[lasthero]

It was good for a bit but it’s kinda become a bit stale.

I heard the newer stuff was okay, been curious...

But yeah. Depressing result for a lot of reasons. Trump wouldn’t be fit to clean Lincoln’s hat.

 

[Speedwell]

See above comment.....

In that case you have a serious public relations problem because, honestly, from our side of the fence Trump supporters really do appear to be a resurgence of the Lost Cause.

 

[lasthero]

What do you expect from people who fought a long and bloody war against Lincoln and what he stood for?

I’d actually chalk at least some of it up to ignorance - I don’t think most Americans are really that well versed in history. They probably know something of Lincoln, but only what they might remember him from when they studied in school, if that. Most just know him as that guy who freed the slaves. Granted, there are certainly some Confederate loonies our there - I’ve met some - but I’d say they’re fringe.

Meanwhile, Trump is fresh in their minds. It’s a lot easier to like someone who’s alive and in your face all day long.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

In that case you have a serious public relations problem because, honestly, from our side of the fence Trump supporters really do appear to be a resurgence of the Lost Cause.

Well, the North did win the popular vote, but if done over today, I’m sure the Confederacy would get the Electoral College.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Trump preferred over Lincoln by Republicans: poll

Who is the best Republican president between Donald Trump and Abraham Lincoln? For most Republican respondents to a recent poll, the answer is Trump.

In response to the question, “Which Republicanpresident was better?,” more than half (53 percent) of GOP respondents answered “Trump,” while 47 percent answered “Lincoln.”

That’s sad to hear but not surprising given the abysmal graduation rates in Red States.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

That is actually the most incredibly ignorant comment I have ever read on this website. It demonstrates an absolute hatred for people of a political party simply because you disagree with their politics as well as a complete lack of understanding of the political aspects of the Civil War. I feel sorry for you and your obvious inability to grasp the historical significance of the Republican Party's support of Lincoln and his actions in defeating the Confederacy.

Sounds like most Republican voters disagree with you and your characterization of Lincoln’s importance to the Republican Party and his contributions to our nation. Personally, I’d never place any modern president above either Lincoln or Washington.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Sounds like most Republican voters disagree with you and your characterization of Lincoln’s importance to the Republican Party and his contributions to our nation. Personally, I’d never place any modern president above either Lincoln or Washington.

Lincoln? Didn’t he leave the Republican Party and Run in 64 with a Democrat as his running mate? Sounds like a flip flopping RINO to me. He was against freeing the Slaves before he was for it.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Lincoln? Didn’t he leave the Republican Party and Run in 64 with a Democrat as his running mate? Sounds like a flip flopping RINO to me. He was against freeing the Slaves before he was for it.

Yeah and the guy couldn’t even finish out his term. Only losers can’t finish their term as president.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

Lincoln? Didn’t he leave the Republican Party and Run in 64 with a Democrat as his running mate?



Sounds like a flip flopping RINO to me. He was against freeing the Slaves before he was for it.

You are almost right.
How about a game of horseshoes.
Close counts.
M-Bob

 

[A_Thinker]

That is actually the most incredibly ignorant comment I have ever read on this website. It demonstrates an absolute hatred for people of a political party simply because you disagree with their politics as well as a complete lack of understanding of the political aspects of the Civil War. I feel sorry for you and your obvious inability to grasp the historical significance of the Republican Party's support of Lincoln and his actions in defeating the Confederacy.

My observations are of present-day Republicans, rather than the Republicans of Lincoln's day.

I was as shocked as you appear to be of some of the current-day disdain for Lincoln.

I would advise of a more accurate assessment of some of your fellows ... before you accuse another poster of ignorance, lest your own ignorance be revealed ...

 

[Aryeh Jay]

You are almost right.
How about a game of horseshoes.
Close counts.
M-Bob

Closeness counts in hand grenades too.

 

[Albion]

Actually, we think that to be a good thing.
Maybe you don't know many?

And Lincoln was a great President.
Just seems Trump is preferred.
M-Bob

Lincoln didn't really do an awful lot, and some of what he did was not admirable--suspend habeas corpus, for instance. His fame rests mainly on his Emancipation Proclamation (that freed no slaves but is a famous symbol), the sympathy that goes out to any victim of assassination, and his presumed strength of character.

 

[Speedwell]

Lincoln didn't really do an awful lot, and some of what he did was not admirable--suspend habeas corpus, for instance. His fame rests mainly on his Emancipation Proclamation (that freed no slaves but is a famous symbol), the sympathy that goes out to any victim of assassination, and his presumed strength of character.

What stands out for me is his determination to preserve the Union.

"If I could save the union without freeing any slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves I would do it; and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone I would also do that."

 

[Albion]

What stands out for me is his determination to preserve the Union.

I don't want to denigrate Lincoln unnecessarily, but wouldn't this be the least that we would have expected from almost anyone who might have been in the White House when war broke out?

 

[GoldenBoy89]

Lincoln didn’t do an awful lot?

I honestly don’t even recognize my country anymore.

 

[Speedwell]

I don't want to denigrate Lincoln unnecessarily, but wouldn't this be the least that we would have expected from almost anyone who might have been in the White House when war broke out?

I think Buchanan would have fumbled it away.

 

[Albion]

I think Buchanan would have fumbled it away.

That's why I used the word "almost."

 

[cow451]

Trump preferred over Lincoln by Republicans: poll

Who is the best Republican president between Donald Trump and Abraham Lincoln? For most Republican respondents to a recent poll, the answer is Trump.

In response to the question, “Which Republicanpresident was better?,” more than half (53 percent) of GOP respondents answered “Trump,” while 47 percent answered “Lincoln.”

Well, Lincoln freed the slaves, so ...