Trump joint session speech: "So to our farmers, have a lot of fun. I love you too. I love you too."

[FireDragon76]

To be fair, doesn’t language evolve over time? Even in a short period of time?

"Globalists" has always been a dog-whistle for "the Jews" in my lifetime.

It could be that Trump has merely adopted the term thoughtlessly, because he understands its a term that triggers strong emotions in some of the American public, but the fact he adopts such a loaded term thoughtlessly doesn't make him blameless.

 

[RileyG]

"Globalists" has always been a dog-whistle for "the Jews" in my lifetime.

It could be that Trump has merely adopted the term thoughtlessly, because he understands its a term that triggers strong emotions in some of the American public, but the fact he adopts such a loaded term thoughtlessly doesn't make him blameless.

Thanks for the reply. I wasn't aware of that at all.

 

[Canuckster]

I dispise globalists, I don't want some rich foreign born person having any control over the US government

I don’t like globalists either. Globalists are home born as well as foreign; they are of multiple races and ethnic groups. Globalists have citizenry in every nation and allegiance to none. Globalists are not an entire ethnic group... and entire ethnic groups are not globalists. All that matters is the evil that they do… like the clever Satan himself… he would use his self-proclaimed ethnicity to smear his filth on entire ethnic groups to distract from the evil that he does.

 

[Vambram]

"Globalists" has always been a dog-whistle for "the Jews" in my lifetime.

It could be that Trump has merely adopted the term thoughtlessly, because he understands its a term that triggers strong emotions in some of the American public, but the fact he adopts such a loaded term thoughtlessly doesn't make him blameless.

I'm 60 years old and I have never ever thought that "globalists" was a dog whistle for "the Jews." In fact, this here born again Christian is a very strong supporter of Israel and Jewish people.

 

[FireDragon76]

I'm 60 years old and I have never ever thought that "globalists" was a dog whistle for "the Jews." In fact, this here born again Christian is a very strong supporter of Israel and Jewish people.

It may have spread into more common parlance, no doubt as a general scare word with vague or nebulous connotations, but that seems to be part of an intentional strategy of the alt-right to shift the Overton window and disguise anti-Semitism as acceptable political discourse.

Keep in mind that fascists historically used euphemisms, jargon, glittering generalities, and innuendo to disguise the full horror of their ideology and make their ideas more acceptable to the general public.

 

[FireDragon76]

Support for the state of Israel doesn't mean a person is or isn't anti-Semitic. There are all sorts of reasons a person might support Israel that have nothing to do with respecting the rights and dignity of Jewish people (for instance, Britain's historical role in Palestine favored pro-Jewish settler policies, all the while many in Britain viewed actual Jews or Jewry as a whole to be problematic). Likewise, criticism of the state of Israel is not necessarily the same as anti-Semitism.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Back in the 1990's and early 2000's when Pat Buchanan denounced "globalists", Trump rightly called this language out as veiled anti-Semitism. Now he himself adopts this kind of language.

Yes, but that was when Trump was still a Democrat infected with their morals. Thankfully he's seen the error of his ways and become a true Republican patriot.

 

[Pommer]

I don’t like globalists either. Globalists are home born as well as foreign; they are of multiple races and ethnic groups. Globalists have citizenry in every nation and allegiance to none. Globalists are not an entire ethnic group... and entire ethnic groups are not globalists. All that matters is the evil that they do… like the clever Satan himself… he would use his self-proclaimed ethnicity to smear his filth on entire ethnic groups to distract from the evil that he does.

How disgusting it must be to espouse a philosophy that seeks to eliminate people’s natural differences and try to get people from all over the world to “get along” better, huh?

 

[Pommer]

Support for the state of Israel doesn't mean a person is or isn't anti-Semitic. There are all sorts of reasons a person might support Israel that have nothing to do with respecting the rights and dignity of Jewish people (for instance, Britain's historical role in Palestine favored pro-Jewish settler policies, all the while many in Britain viewed actual Jews or Jewry as a whole to be problematic). Likewise, criticism of the state of Israel is not necessarily the same as anti-Semitism.

Most Americans support Israel’s right to exist where they are…if the plans were to move the Israeli people to Arizona that support would dwindle rapidly.

 

[BPPLEE]

Support for the state of Israel doesn't mean a person is or isn't anti-Semitic. There are all sorts of reasons a person might support Israel that have nothing to do with respecting the rights and dignity of Jewish people (for instance, Britain's historical role in Palestine favored pro-Jewish settler policies, all the while many in Britain viewed actual Jews or Jewry as a whole to be problematic). Likewise, criticism of the state of Israel is not necessarily the same as anti-Semitism.

But criticism of George Soros is anti Semitism

 

[FireDragon76]

But criticism of George Soros is anti Semitism

Not necessarily, but it can be a cover for anti-Semitism. And it can be also due to misunderstanding or misrepresentation.

Alot of post-emancipation, post-Haskalah Jews believe in cosmopolitanism and universal human rights, as do many Christians, and for similar reasons. That hardly means they are operating under a "global conspiracy". People live out their religious and cultural values in ways that aren't always compatible with a strong sense of parochialism and nationalism.

 

[essentialsaltes]

Back to the farmers please.

Triad farmers endure federal grant, loan freeze; ‘We’re owed this’​

A local farmer who depends on federal funding to keep his business running is in limbo.

Owner Mike Hansen says he had plans to expand his farm with a federal grant provided by the U.S. Department of Agriculture. It’s a grant he was awarded in 2024 when he signed a contract.

It’s a freeze that led Hansen to use some of his retirement money to keep his business afloat.

“If you don’t uphold your end of the contract, it’s called a breach of contract … Legally, we’re owed this. A lot of other farms are owed it. I know … 28 other farms in North Carolina that are waiting for payments that were promised,” Hansen said.

Matteson farm that lost flock to bird flu loses $200k in federal grants thanks to funding freeze​

In October, Kakadoodle Farm was informed it would receive a $220,000 grant. But Tuesday, it was suspended

The news came weeks after owners MariKate and Marty Thomas lost their flock of 3,000 chickens to the avian flu in January.

The couple was going to use the funds to remodel an old pole barn and turn it into their new distribution center. The new distribution center would be used to collect food from other local farmers and ship it to their customers.

They’d already spent $80,000 on renovations — expecting to be reimbursed with the grant. They poured new concrete and installed insulation, but now, there’s no way they can complete the job.

Trump Administration Cuts Funding For Grants That Support Illinois Farmers And Food Banks​

The Illinois Department of Agriculture (IDOA) today announced that the Local Food Purchase Assistance Program (LFPA) and the Resilient Food Systems Infrastructure Program (RFSI) can no longer operate in Illinois due to the Trump Administration cutting funding for the programs. Without explanation, the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) has informed states that it was ceasing reimbursements for any costs incurred after January 19, 2025.

Reimbursement claims submitted for costs incurred after that date are being returned with no explanation or timeline for reimbursements to resume.

The USDA established the LFPA program to strengthen statewide food systems, using federal funds to buy food from growers and producers at fair market value that is distributed to communities in need at no cost.

The purpose of the RFSI program is to expand the middle of the food supply chain capacity for locally and regionally produced foods to offer better market opportunities and new streams of revenue to small and mid-sized agricultural producers.

 

[Desk trauma]

Imagine if someone mocked Obama that way.

Yes, we all remember how mild the criticism of Obama was.

 

[Pommer]

I'm 60 years old and I have never ever thought that "globalists" was a dog whistle for "the Jews." In fact, this here born again Christian is a very strong supporter of Israel and Jewish people.

Not being aware of a trope is just plain ol’ ignorance. (Which isn’t a character flaw, just being unaware of a thing that other people are keenly aware of, isn’t a deficit unless, after learning it, one disregards the new information.)

 

[loveofourlord]

Imagine if someone mocked Obama that way.

That wouldn’t be a pretty sight…,

dude....they did

 

[Larniavc]

I dispise globalists, I don't want some rich foreign born person having any control over the US government

Mr Musk to the white curtesy phone!

 

[RileyG]

dude....they did

I know. I’m just making a comparison.

 

[Say it aint so]

The impact on farmers Trump tariffs 2018:

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"The retaliatory tariffs led to a significant reduction in U.S. agricultural exports to retaliating partners. Nationally, direct U.S. agricultural export losses due to retaliatory tariffs totaled more than $27 billion during 2018 through the end of 2019. Across retaliatory partners, China accounted for approximately 95 percent of the losses ($25.7 billion), followed by the EU ($0.6 billion), and Mexico ($0.5 billion), with Canada, Turkey, and India having smaller shares. We estimated annualized losses for selected commodities from retaliatory tariffs were $13.2 billion from mid-2018 to the end of 2019" --USDA​

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Again, recall that US farmers had to be bailed out first trade war. Now this trade war Trump's wishy-washy this month, next month, never mind, maybe tomorrow pledge to double down, along with essentialsaltes notation of farmers being hosed by DOGE, why in the world would anyone think this a good thing. I know the excuses here is Trump is just using this for negotiation leverage to fix his "beautiful" USMCA trade agreement, but it's not about that. It's not about fentanyl. It's about Trump not understanding trade period. The 27B of loses in one year 2018-19, is going to be nothing compared to the hurt this go around.

 

[loveofourlord]

I know. I’m just making a comparison.

ahhh okay sorry, seen enough people deny biden or obama were treated poorly jumped the gun :>

 

[Vambram]

The impact on farmers Trump tariffs 2018:

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"The retaliatory tariffs led to a significant reduction in U.S. agricultural exports to retaliating partners. Nationally, direct U.S. agricultural export losses due to retaliatory tariffs totaled more than $27 billion during 2018 through the end of 2019. Across retaliatory partners, China accounted for approximately 95 percent of the losses ($25.7 billion), followed by the EU ($0.6 billion), and Mexico ($0.5 billion), with Canada, Turkey, and India having smaller shares. We estimated annualized losses for selected commodities from retaliatory tariffs were $13.2 billion from mid-2018 to the end of 2019" --USDA​

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Again, recall that US farmers had to be bailed out first trade war. Now this trade war Trump's wishy-washy this month, next month, never mind, maybe tomorrow pledge to double down, along with essentialsaltes notation of farmers being hosed by DOGE, why in the world would anyone think this a good thing. I know the excuses here is Trump is just using this for negotiation leverage to fix his "beautiful" USMCA trade agreement, but it's not about that. It's not about fentanyl. It's about Trump not understanding trade period. The 27B of loses in one year 2018-19, is going to be nothing compared to the hurt this go around.

If everything that you're saying is true, it still didn't stop a good majority of farmers from voting for Trump in 2020 and in 2024. By and large, Trump has a lot more voters from farmers than did Biden or Harris. Therefore, I am skeptical of the information in your post.