Trump isn't president - why do people still talk about him so much?

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Well, a court found him guilty of sexual abuse, so we hardly need his taped admission to know that. He's been legally found to have committed fraud at least twice, once by scamming the very people who admired and trusted him. He's a rather loathsome being.
I agree, but that is not why people supported him and still do. There are a lot of loathsome politicians. But it doesn't mean that those are the reasons people support them.

It's quite interesting actually.
 
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I do not really care about Trumps comments, what matters to me was/are his policies, there were only a couple I disagreed with.
The Country under Trump was in a lot better shape than it is now.
Why would you think a failing economy was better than a growing economy?
 
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Why would you think a failing economy was better than a growing economy?
That's easy, go buy groceries and maybe put some gas in your car.
Hmm...
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Why would you object to falling gas prices and basically unchanged grocery prices?
 
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Because it is not true, your charts don't change the facts
The charts display facts. They might be other than you want them to be, but facts are often like that.

not a true measure from Trump to Biden.
It's just what the data show. Intangibles like Trump's dishonesty or his huge and delicate ego are other considerations, of course.
 
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The charts display facts. They might be other than you want them to be, but facts are often like that.


It's just what the data show. Intangibles like Trump's dishonesty or his huge and delicate ego are other considerations, of course.
Costs are higher. What are you talking about. Food is up from Trump. Gas prices, heating oil, housing costs a a wages are down. No it was much better under Trump than Biden. At least until COVID hit and government shut the economy down.

If we did that under Biden it would be just as bad if not worse due to the cost of everything now.

 
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Costs are higher. What are you talking about. Food is up from Trump. Gas prices, heating oil, housing costs a a wages are down. No it was much better under Trump than Biden. At least until COVID hit and government shut the economy down.

If we did that under Biden it would be just as bad if not worse due to the cost of everything now.

It's called gaslighting.
Trying to convince you things are better than they were when the bad orange man was in office.
My wages have increased in the last 3 years but with the costs of everyday items, it's not even noticable.
But no worries, once they force me to buy a $80k electric car all my troubles will be over /s
 
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The charts display facts. They might be other than you want them to be, but facts are often like that.

hey do ..... Biden's failure against Biden's failure
Declining gas prices don't seem like a failure to me.
nothing related to the topic
It was probably a bad idea for Biden critics to bring them up, then.
so in really misleading at best and some would call them just spam.
Well, yeah, but you guys seem really desperate to find something that sticks. This one backfired. Learn from it and go on.
 
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It's just what the data show. Intangibles like Trump's dishonesty or his huge and delicate ego are other considerations, of course.

Nothing else but opinion and conjecture.
Even many of his backers admit it. No one in his right mind would deny that Trump is a compulsive liar. He can't help himself. And how would you even begin to deny that he has a huge ego which is easily damaged by the slightest criticism?
 
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As the economy continues to recover from the pandemic, you'll continue to see MAGA gaslighting, trying to explain why low unemployment, declining gasoline prices, and the recovery are bad things. They are bad things for the republican party, true. But not for the rest of us.
 
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They are when they are still significantly higher than they were under Trump.
Because Russian oil wasn't be sanctioned under Trump. The oil supply is a lot smaller then it used to be and OPEC is refusing to up produciton because they like high oil prices.
 
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How many dogs has Biden had to re-home... So far?
Apparently, Biden has always had dogs in his home. The two latest did not adapt well to the WH and were aggressive. Two different Secret Service agents were bitten, and the dogs are not in the WH now. They are staying with family friends in Delaware.
 
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Declining gas prices don't seem like a failure to me.
They are when they are still significantly higher than they were under Trump.
Hmmm....

Gas prices skyrocketed under Trump, and are now declining under Biden. Again, that seems to be bad on Trump and good on Biden. Went from $1.69 to $3.35 Trump's last year, and continued to rise Biden's first year, until his use of the strategic oil reserves brought it down from a high of over $5.00 a gallon. It's now about 3.35, which is what it was when he took over from Trump. And that's in spite of the huge inflation we had from the pandemic.
 
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Because Russian oil wasn't be sanctioned under Trump.
And yet, the cost of oil has declined under Biden. Lately:

Oil prices tally a second straight losing week as Israel-Hamas war premium fades​


Which brings up another point. Not everything that changes oil prices is due to things a president can control.
 
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Gas prices skyrocketed under Trump, and are now declining under Biden.

When prices are skyrocket high, no where to go but down.
True. But Trump was unable to do anything about it. Biden did. And the prices went down. It's not surprising; Trump has bungled every job he's ever had.
 
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It boggles me though that no matter if you feel Trump is horribly guilty of A, B and C that people think it's wise to throw him in jail? Can anyone look beyond just Trump and get a true feel of what's beneficial for the greater good and peace of the nation?
Wow. It is because I care so much about the greater good of our nation and the world that I want a president with integrity and a champion of democracy. In other words, the un-Trump.
 
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Gas prices skyrocketed under Trump, and are now declining under Biden.


True. But Trump was unable to do anything about it. Biden did. And the prices went down. It's not surprising; Trump has bungled every job he's ever had.

Total nonsense
Notice the data. No way to ignore the facts. Trump's mishandling of the pandemic and then the economic consequences, made gas prices soar. Biden brought them down. As to Trump's many business failures...

A Complete List of Donald Trump’s Business Disasters

Trump Steaks

GoTrump.com

Trump Airlines

Trump Vodka

Trump Mortgage

Trump: The Game

Trump Magazine

Trump University

Trump Ice

The New Jersey Generals

Tour de Trump

Trump on the Ocean

The Trump Network

Trumped!

Trump New Media


Average time before going under: About 2.2 years. Predictably the one that lasted the longest was his "Trump University" scam that defrauded people who trusted him for about 6 years.

And the site doesn't include the fact that he went bankrupt running a casino. How do you even do something like that?
 
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It boggles me though that no matter if you feel Trump is horribly guilty of A, B and C that people think it's wise to throw him in jail?
The American idea is "no one is above the law." If he's a criminal, put him away.

The more you put into something it can reach a point it's counter productive and support will start gaining towards the other?
I don't think that applies to criminal indictments.
 
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