Trolls????

[rnmomof7]

Pointing to a wrong, in order to justify another wrong is flawed logic in my opinion. I just find it absolutely fascinating that some people want to come to CF, the home of a man who is for the main an evangelical and exalt their own belief structures above his, in his own home....
My next door neighbor is Muslim. We have a very friendly relationship. We often go to their house for supper. I never go there and contradict him and then toilet paper his house, when he makes statements I disagree with, about Christianity. So should this forum be respected as the home of an evangelical who may, or may NOT accept LDS as "Christian".

I do hope you care enough about his eternity to present to him the gospel

 

[usetheforce]

Sure. It was at ldstalk.com and the thread was called www.christianforums.com.
If the evidence is no longer there, then I consider that additional evidence. Speaking only for myself of course. And I'm not necessarily a critic. I do not happen to agree with the core doctrines of the LDS church. But that does not make me anti-LDS. And I don't trust the interpretive skills of anyone no matter who they are. And I find that this sort of behaviour is very common, anecdotally speaking, of my own LDS relatives. I do pray for them that their lives will bear fruit.

Thanks you.... It does look like the thread has been removed, for I did a search.
Thus, you are likely correct. LDStalk seems to have a lot of youth there.
Just understand, that we don't like bigotry especially in the name of God, so while whatever they did was likely not right, you must understand they were likely responding to the behaviors they see exhibited by people who are supposed to be "Christian".
I know, because I feel the same all the time with many who wish to falsely degrade me and my faith, however, I strive hard to hold my tongue so as to not to excellate hate into contention between believers, for such is as well not of God, though being likely justified.
Anyway, just letting you know.

Ah, as to interpretive skills indeed. You see, that is the very reason why people need to leave each others religions alone, because everyone thinks they are right and are the smartest, but the real fact is is that everyone is the same. Yes, someone is likely right, but no matter how "sure" you are they you are the one that is right, the other person likely feels and knows exactly the same.
Thus, it is better to let other believers alone, and simply Proclaim the Gospel as you know it.
It's not our job to interpret and then condem anothers gospel, that is left to God.
Our job is to Defend the Faith and Proclaim the Gospel, but allow other believers their agency to choose, even though they don't "follow us".
Mark 9:38-40

 

[Suzannah]

I do hope you care enough about his eternity to present to him the gospel

Oh yes. We talk about it quite a bit. I just don't do it in his own living room.... out of respect for his own home....we talk over the fence in our gardens..
Of course, when they come to our home for tea/coffee/whatnot, we talk a lot about Jesus....Islam teaches he was a great prophet, and our neighbors certainly respect him very much, although they do not believe he was the Son of the Living God. But this just leaves us much more to talk about!

 

[twhite982]

Someone who tries to introduce chaos into a forum.

Such as posting comments that have NOTHING to do with the subject or otherwise, disrupt, interupt, or in other words throw the thread off track?


Tom

 

[Serapha]

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You see, that is the very reason why people need to leave each others religions alone, because everyone thinks they are right and are the smartest, but the real fact is is that everyone is the same.

My friend,



You are mistaken. The Jesus of Mormonism is not the Christ of Calvary.

The CoJCoLDS took the pre-incarnate Jesus, took Him off the throne of Glory, stripped Him of His deity, and made him into an intelligence... albeit, a perfect intelligence.


I'm telling you that you need the Christ of Calvary, not the weak natured Jesus of mormonism.


~serapha~

 

[True Believer]

Pointing to a wrong, in order to justify another wrong is flawed logic in my opinion. I just find it absolutely fascinating that some people want to come to CF, the home of a man who is for the main an evangelical and exalt their own belief structures above his, in his own home....
My next door neighbor is Muslim. We have a very friendly relationship. We often go to their house for supper. I never go there and contradict him and then toilet paper his house, when he makes statements I disagree with, about Christianity. So should this forum be respected as the home of an evangelical who may, or may NOT accept LDS as "Christian".

When you invite someone in under false pretenses and attack them for disagreeing with you because they feel threatened by that attack what do you expect to happen?
Agape' to All, TB

 

[unbound]

Such as posting comments that have NOTHING to do with the subject or otherwise, disrupt, interupt, or in other words throw the thread off track?


Tom

I see you quoted me. Is there something you wish to say to me,Tom?

 

[Serapha]

I see you quoted me. Is there something you wish to say to me,Tom?

unbound....


turn the cheek... and just testify... mercy... as I was told... take advantage of the opportunity of some many people being on the forum to hear the "good news"

Christ died for the sins of the world.




~serapha~

 

[twhite982]

I see you quoted me. Is there something you wish to say to me,Tom?

Yeah, you gave a definition of trolls.

I elaborated on it and was essentially asking if my comments fell within your definition.

It was a question as can be seen by the punctuation at the end of the sentence. Sorry I should've included the original question you responded to. It does get confusing.

I would like you to answer the question if you feel the need to.


Tom

 

[rnmomof7]

Oh yes. We talk about it quite a bit. I just don't do it in his own living room.... out of respect for his own home....we talk over the fence in our gardens..
Of course, when they come to our home for tea/coffee/whatnot, we talk a lot about Jesus....Islam teaches he was a great prophet, and our neighbors certainly respect him very much, although they do not believe he was the Son of the Living God. But this just leaves us much more to talk about!

My Pastor has a ministry to the Muslims ,
He is of Mid Eastern descent and has a real heart for them .

 

[Suzannah]

When you invite someone in under false pretenses and attack them for disagreeing with you because they feel threatened by that attack what do you expect to happen?
Agape' to All, TB

What are you talking about? What false pretenses? What attack? Who have I attacked?

 

[Serapha]

What are you talking about? What false pretenses? What attack? Who have I attacked?

Susannah....

Just turn the other cheek and keep posting the good news of the gospel of Jesus Christ...


The REAL Jesus Christ.


The Christ of Calvary.


Did you see "The Passion"... think about what Christ did for you.. and do that for someone else.


~serapha~

 

[unbound]

Yeah, you gave a definition of trolls.

I elaborated on it and was essentially asking if my comments fell within your definition.

It was a question as can be seen by the punctuation at the end of the sentence. Sorry I should've included the original question you responded to. It does get confusing.

I would like you to answer the question if you feel the need to.


Tom

Yes I agree. How do you judge me?

 

[twhite982]

Yes I agree. How do you judge me?

What's in the past is the past, but I'll now use your definition for you as a guide for your posts, since its your own belief.

I too agree with it and if I am guilty of "trolling" please let me know.

Tom

 

[Starcrystal]

Serapha,
Before you pass judgment, perhaps you need to ask her what her denomonation is, and what book is the basis for her beliefs.

I already know its an offshoot of the LDS church. My point is that some people seemed to have attitudes that are offensive. You were not included amongst them. Yours seemed to be fair.
I don't agree with LDS teachings. I've pointed this out NUMEROUS times on other UTD forums, and have also on numerous occasions posted scripture that refutes the Jesus & Lucifer brothers issue.

Wrigley,
What part of mormon doctrine do you believe?
So explain to me your issue.

God is creator. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are One, (Though our beliefs are not EXACTLY the same: I'm refering to someone elses post on another thread stating Jesus always existed as an "intelligence" with the father) People need to repent, people need to walk with God.

My issue on the other post was that your short one sentence replies are often abrupt and could be considered rude. Please try to put yourself in someones shoes looking at this forum from another perspective. I'm not saying this to be offensive, just pointing it out. If I was unsaved and saw some of those comments I'd be inclined to say, "Hmmmph, well who does he think he is?" I know because when i was unsaved and people said stuff like that I didn't want to listen to anything they said. Don't you want people to hear you and examine themselves to see whether they are in the faith or not?

 

[unbound]

What's in the past is the past, but I'll now use your definition for you as a guide for your posts, since its your own belief.

I too agree with it and if I am guilty of "trolling" please let me know.

Tom

Ok, now Im scratching my head, trying to think of any posts Ive made that were completely removed from the topic being discussed. How do your rules work, Tom?

 

[twhite982]

unbound....


turn the cheek... and just testify... mercy... as I was told... take advantage of the opportunity of some many people being on the forum to hear the "good news"

Christ died for the sins of the world.




~serapha~

Serapha you were witness to the "trolling" that happened a few days back by those "Christian" posters here on this forum.

Has that behavior changed at all? I dare say NO.

While I don't condone the disruptions, it clearly shows how that shoe fit when put on the other foot or in other words this same behavipor directed towards the LDS.

Frustrating isn't it?

Yet, when an LDS poster asks for the "trolling" to stop we are labeled as having a persecution complex and are called whiners who should just take our "rebuke" as loving kindness from our mainstream "Christian" friends.


Looks like double-standard to me.



You're probally right though the best thing for ALL of us to do in this instance is to testify of what we know to be true.



Tom

 

[A New Dawn]

Hi there!




Did your momma tell you that when people lie that they will go to ****?


I just read a posting that you are part of a church that is fractured off mormonism. Now... that tells me that you know the Mormon Jesus and not the Christ of Calvary. Now... we have to start over.


Are you saved? And when I ask that, I am not asking if you are saved by the Jesus mentioned in the book of mormon, but in the Christ of Calvary... the Christ of the New Testament. He is the only way.


~serapha~

I'm sorry Serapha, maybe if you read what you just wrote, you would understand something.

The church that was organized by Joseph Smith splintered into numerous factions when he was killed. Brigham Young took the majority of the church and went west and created a whole new church with polygamy and Adam-God doctrines as it's base. The son of Joseph Smith took a much smaller portion of the church and created what became the Community of Christ (RLDS for a long time) with very mainstream Christian values. Do we accept or have we ever practiced polygamy? NO. Do we accept or have we ever practiced baptism for the dead? NO. Do we accept or have we ever believed the Adam-God theory. NO. Do we accept or have we ever practiced celestial marriages? NO.

Do you see where I am going?

Just because my church started out as the same church the Mormon church did, doesn't mean we are the mormon church. We don't have the same beliefs in any way shape or form.

So, maybe you ought to revamp some of your thinking. Because your present thinking is leading you in the wrong direction.

 

[unbound]

I already know its an offshoot of the LDS church. My point is that some people seemed to have attitudes that are offensive. You were not included amongst them. Yours seemed to be fair.
I don't agree with LDS teachings. I've pointed this out NUMEROUS times on other UTD forums, and have also on numerous occasions posted scripture that refutes the Jesus & Lucifer brothers issue.



God is creator. Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are One, (Though our beliefs are not EXACTLY the same: I'm refering to someone elses post on another thread stating Jesus always existed as an "intelligence" with the father) People need to repent, people need to walk with God.

My issue on the other post was that your short one sentence replies are often abrupt and could be considered rude. Please try to put yourself in someones shoes looking at this forum from another perspective. I'm not saying this to be offensive, just pointing it out. If I was unsaved and saw some of those comments I'd be inclined to say, "Hmmmph, well who does he think he is?" I know because when i was unsaved and people said stuff like that I didn't want to listen to anything they said. Don't you want people to hear you and examine themselves to see whether they are in the faith or not?

There is no fault in the above post.

 

[unbound]

I'm sorry Serapha, maybe if you read what you just wrote, you would understand something.

The church that was organized by Joseph Smith splintered into numerous factions when he was killed. Brigham Young took the majority of the church and went west and created a whole new church with polygamy and Adam-God doctrines as it's base. The son of Joseph Smith took a much smaller portion of the church and created what became the Community of Christ (RLDS for a long time) with very mainstream Christian values. Do we accept or have we ever practiced polygamy? NO. Do we accept or have we ever practiced baptism for the dead? NO. Do we accept or have we ever believed the Adam-God theory. NO. Do we accept or have we ever practiced celestial marriages? NO.

Do you see where I am going?

Just because my church started out as the same church the Mormon church did, doesn't mean we are the mormon church. We don't have the same beliefs in any way shape or form.

So, maybe you ought to revamp some of your thinking. Because your present thinking is leading you in the wrong direction.

Do you believe Joseph Smith was a true prophet of God?