Futurist Only Tribe Of Dan- Antichrist?? :scratch:

[Dave-W]

The land of Israel was divided into 12 lots/inheritance, and Levi is not one.

We have already established that.

The word for "tribe" used in Gen 49 is Sha-vet שֵׁבֶט (Strongs H7626) which primarily means "branch" or "offshoot." The sons were "branches" or "offshoots" of their father.

Stop conflating "tribe" with land.

 

[Dave-W]

Levi is not one of the 12 tribes of Israel,

Levi is not a "branch" of Jacob (aka Israel)? How do you figure?

The bible was NOT written in english. Use the Hebrew.

 

[Dave-W]

Passages which mention "tribe of Levi."

Numbers 1:49
Numbers 3:6
Numbers 4:18
Numbers 18:2
Deuteronomy 10:8
Deuteronomy 18:1
Joshua 13:14
Joshua 13:33
1 Chronicles 23:14
Ezekiel 48:31
Revelation 7:7

Yes, several of them mention that they get no land; and yet they are STILL called a tribe.

Tribe does not equal land.

 

[Dave-W]

The land of Israel is divided into 12 partitons named after each of the twelve tribes of Israel. There is no of Levi. Care to name the twelve tribes the 12 partitions are named after?

We are talking TRIBES (people) and NOT land partitions.

 

[CodyFaith]

Huh. No tribe of Dan. Interesting...learn something new every day.

*no contribution as I couldn't have the slightest clue as to why not, just a thanks for the info*.

 

[tatteredsoul]

Passages which mention "tribe of Levi."

Numbers 1:49
Numbers 3:6
Numbers 4:18
Numbers 18:2
Deuteronomy 10:8
Deuteronomy 18:1
Joshua 13:14
Joshua 13:33
1 Chronicles 23:14
Ezekiel 48:31
Revelation 7:7

Yes, several of them mention that they get no land; and yet they are STILL called a tribe.

Tribe does not equal land.

In general, the common [spiritual] sense reason why Levi did not receive land was because they were the priestly tribe, and all of their allotments, needs and wants were to come straight from God. They were supposed to have the faith that He would do that for them. That is why the tithe is 10% of the increase of the land, because God increases the land - so that is technically a priest's God-given salary. Their abode was literally supposed to be in/with God.

 

[tatteredsoul]

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Dan is supposed to be the judge. It is possible that Dan will be a judge - like an adversary - in the way God allowed nations to "judge"/overcome Israel when they backslid and cheated on Him. Dan may be a key antichristian figure for the entire world - mighty enough to judge even the most powerful of superpowers.

For now, it seems Dan is an idea for now - I can't, or rather wont try to identify the persons who are of the tribe of Dan. But, they will definitely be key in the future.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Dan is supposed to be the judge. It is possible that Dan will be a judge - like an adversary - in the way God allowed nations to "judge"/overcome Israel when they backslid and cheated on Him. Dan may be a key antichristian figure for the entire world - mighty enough to judge even the most powerful of superpowers.

For now, it seems Dan is an idea for now - I can't, or rather wont try to identify the persons who are of the tribe of Dan. But, they will definitely be key in the future.

For so many centuries the tribes have been dispersed, and, I imagine, many have lost their identity. Did you watch any of the video? I posted it so people could evaluate the theory put forth by the late J.R. Church who has some interesting things to say about the tribe of Dan. It is worth the watch.

 

[tatteredsoul]

For so many centuries the tribes have been dispersed, and, I imagine, many have lost their identity. Did you watch any of the video? I posted it so people could evaluate the theory put forth by the late J.R. Church who has some interesting things to say about the tribe of Dan. It is worth the watch.

No, which post number? There was one posted but the video was deleted. Was it about the bloodline of Dan? (I know about this subject, and this is why I said this thread will rub some the wrong way especially if we divulge into who the Dannites are.)

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Here is the link
Tribe Of Dan- Antichrist??

Hopefully we will not have any more distractions from the OP.

 

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[Luke17:37]

Huh. No tribe of Dan. Interesting...learn something new every day.

*no contribution as I couldn't have the slightest clue as to why not, just a thanks for the info*.

Hi Cody. Dan is given an alottment in the millennial kingdom (Ezekiel 48), but for whatever reason none of them are included in the special 144,000 who are set apart and offered special protection in the Tribulation (Revelation 7:3).

 

[dougangel]

Why Is the Tribe of Dan Not Mentioned in Revelation 7:4-8?

It is interesting to note that the tribe of Dan is also left out of the genealogies of I Chronicles 1-9, although the original son of Jacob is mentioned in I Chronicles 2:2. This historical point of interest helps explain why the tribe of Dan is not mentioned in Revelation 7:4-8.

The tribe of Dan as a whole was guilty of gross idolatry—even to the point of stealing the idols they used to practice their religion (Judges 18:14-31). Theirs was the first organized idolatry in ancient Israel, and the longest in duration. It continued "until the day of the captivity of the land," nearly 500 years later (Judges 18:30). Jewish tradition says that Dan was the first tribe to follow Jeroboam into his sin of idolatry, and in their literature, the term "Dan" is often used to represent idolatry.

http://www.cgg.org/index.cfm/fuseac...s-Tribe-Dan-Not-Mentioned-Revelation-74-8.htm

Hope that helps. They seem to be the black sheep of the tribes. The full explanation is on that website above.
Hope that helps. cheers.

 

[Douggg]

A lot of people ask why the tribe of Dan is not listed in the Revelation passage regarding the 144,000.Could it be that this is the tribe that the Antichrist comes from?

Maybe, but outwardly, he will have to claim to be of the tribe of Judah.

If I may, allow me to suggest another possibility. Perhaps the false prophet is from the tribe of Dan.

 

[Douggg]

It is interesting to note that the tribe of Dan is also left out of the genealogies of I Chronicles 1-9, although the original son of Jacob is mentioned in I Chronicles 2:2. This historical point of interest helps explain why the tribe of Dan is not mentioned in Revelation 7:4-8.

Maybe the false prophet is from the tribe of Dan.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Maybe, but outwardly, he will have to claim to be of the tribe of Judah.

If I may, allow me to suggest another possibility. Perhaps the false prophet is from the tribe of Dan.

I guess that is a possibility .

 

[dougangel]

Maybe the false prophet is from the tribe of Dan.

Maybe. Sounds logical The false prophet could come from Dan. At this stage though it's conjecture. There are a few candidates. I think Christians who know Revelations well won't be surprised when these things reveal themselves for sure. It reads like the anti Christ is going to be a spectacular amazing entity. The pegs are starting to line up. It will be obvious about some of these things. More and more secular people are becoming aware of the anti Christ so how they are going to be deceived is a question, it is going to be interesting how it unfolds.

John mentions idolatry a few times in revelations and that we shouldn't be a part of it. Perhaps this is why he doesn't mention them. He may of thought it wasn't prudent to have them.
Anyway I think that yours is good theory and I going to store that one away douggg

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Anyway I think that yours is good theory and I going to store that one away douggg

Yes it is as good as any.

 

[dougangel]

Yes it is as good as any.

lol It's one of the better ones. But like we are conveying. It's a guess at the moment.

 

[Douggg]

Well, i understand the Talmudic Jews still expect their messiah, and it's not Christ obviously.
The false messiah can be expected to fulfil certain prophecies that Yeshua didn't yet fulfil.

Exactly. And their interpretation of the new covenant in Jeremiah 31 (we know to be the new covenant in Christ)i is a "renewal" of the Mt. Sinai covenant.

Also I might point out that Jews believe all negative prophecies can be avoided. So - when their messiah becomes the king of Israel to begin the (false) messianic age of peace, harmony, and knowledge of the one true God universally in the world - and the Mt of Olives (Zechariah 14) has not been split in half (Jesus's Return to the Mt. of Olives in Acts 1) - the explanation by the Antichrist will be that Israel repented to a sufficient degree to avoid the negative prophecy of the nations coming up against Jerusalem in Zechariah 14.

The splitting of the Mt. of Olives is sign no-one can miss. ...but the explanation of why not is already built into what Jews believe.