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Treating depression without meds

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Zippety13 said:
itsgood-- I can actually relate to that. When I try not to think about it... I get much better. That's why I'm trying to be med-free for once. So far so good!

Part of it is definitely "learned helplessness" I think. You get used to being depressed and somehow manage to get stuck in it. I did at least.

Now, I've realized I just need to not be my diagnosis and just LIVE! It's crazy how much of a difference making that decision makes.
Hey Zippety,
Here hear: Good for you! :) - You've touched on some really helpful realizations; and would that every person posting in this 'Depression'-group would experiment with your words,
specifically re:
1. A person can not be defined by medical 'diagnostic labels' (unlike broken toilets, or cars); meaning each child-of-God wasn't created by Him as a machine. Each of us was wonderfully-made with
God's resources for *heal*-ing internally pre-programmed by Him
. And so yes,
You ;) Zippety are blessed discovering just what all those wonderful resources are - so
you can, as you said so well, LIVE! & joy :D ful I may add.
and re
2. 'Learned helplessness': Exactly! - people are trained that way, buying-into: doctrines such as 'life-time mental illness'.- increasing millions of lives continue being devastated, bearing such (unnecessary) burdens. And stripped increasingly of hope, finally give-up altogether.
Very wrong,
in light of the fact, that people such as yourself, and anybody else - Can in fact, be helped to live from their *core-state, of healthful peacefulness*. - and this is not rocket-science, either. Anybody can learn how...
and re:
3. 'be med-free for once. So far so good!' - Bravo! as well.
You can do it, you have a Good start here. And if you want further help in this direction of personal/family success, us counselors are trained helping people achieve their healthy dreams.

I wish you ALL the Best :thumbsup: in your life ~ Annie :wave:
 
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itsgood said:
I have had clinical depressoin since I was born, I have been put on every medication none of it works, I have tried working out. It is just the fact that I have stopped caring whether I get better.
Hi *it'sGood*: Kewl :) name, for a surely equally-kewl person ;) -
The fact that you're here writing about it, means you still care.

And you just keep right on caring, because inside yourself, lies quietely waiting *your Real-self* that's right!
The self God sent to this earth, to enjoy :D . God makes no junk, and God most definitely made no mistake when He created your soul. And then He blessed it, additionally, with your mind.
(The only other thing you needed was a Savior, and when *God himself* gave His life for you, before then showing you your own resurrection, His work was complete). - So, realize just how Blessedly-fortunate you, me, each/all of us are... We are soo richly :clap: Blessed by God.

So, there you have it. Have what??, well you may ask :thumbsup:

Simply this: Use this *phenomenal-wonderfully-blessed MIND* (as God's free-gift to you) and,
harming no-one, choose Well in creating with it endless... Lives of your finest/noblest dreams...

I wish for you ALL the Best, as well ~ Annie :wave:


 
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itsgood said:
thanks sk8joyful/Annie. Yes
I know I am blessed because I am a Christian and going to heaven.

I need to find the determination from somewhere to get a life back
Hi *it'sGood*:),

Having once echoed your same sentiment of: 'I need to get my life back', as well as helping many numerous other people succeed, I understand what you mean.

And consider: When you were yet in the womb developing your mortal-body, you were soo determined toReach-out to Life, and embrace it with POSITIVE-passion & gusto :thumbsup:...
The world was YOUR *candy-store*
:). -
so -
How about, as you awaken each day, you face life with this attitude: ---> This is my 1st. day here, on earth. Wow,
THANK YOU Jesus!, for giving me the opportunity to *Live it, FULLy*- And then,
doing it peacefully, gratefully, courageously & joyfully... Carpe Diem = seize the day!! :clap:


I wish you ALL the Best ~ Annie :wave:
 
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Rosa Mystica said:
Is there anyone here with clinical depression who is treating it without medication? If so, what sorts of treatment(s) are you undergoing? Do they help any?

I ask b/c I seem to be unresponsive to meds. I've tried a bunch of them, and they haven't done a thing for me. I have anxiety as well as depression, and it is really frustrating to have nothing work for me. If there are any alternatives to psychotropic meds, I'm all for it. :sigh:


I do not know enough about you to be certain, but people with persistent depression which is often not touched by ads, may well have something more than depression to deal with (as I have). I had a look at your blog, and there are several clues there that this may be true of you, but of course I am not a doctor, and even if I were, I could not be certain on this kind of evidence. However, in the hopes that the following information might prove useful, please take what is relevant and discard what is not.

In terms of medication, I find that St Johns Wort is as good as anything, with Valerian Root to help with sleep when needed.

Pax vobiscum

http://www.palace.net/~llama/psych/herman.html
 
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Zippety13 said:
itsgood-- I can actually relate to that. When I try not to think about it... I get much better. That's why I'm trying to be med-free for once. So far so good! Part of it is definitely "learned helplessness" I think. You get used to being depressed and somehow manage to get stuck in it. I did at least. Now, I've realized I just need to not be my diagnosis and just LIVE! It's crazy how much of a difference making that decision makes.


I AM JUST NEW TO THIS SITE . I HAVE TRIED , PAXIL, PAXIL CR (NEVER AGAIN) AND WELLBURTIN XL (ALSO NEVER AGAIN. I HAVE DECIDED TO STOP TAKING ALL MEDS FOR AWHILE TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS
 
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I was diagnosed with severe depression and anxiety, and bi-polar. Here's how I am med-free (note I said med-free, not cured.)

I had to completely break away from what was dragging me down and provoking my mood swings. I grew up in a very abusive home. The only thing they didn't do to me was sexually abuse me. (Thank God, at least they didn't do that!) Even after I married and moved out, I still lived within driving distance of them. They would keep on and keep on with there verbal/emotional and physical abuse, either over the phone, or they'd invite themselves over without asking. My husband was hesitant to believe me about what was going on, since he couldn't imagine parents treating their kids they way mine treated me. Therefore, he didn't do anything to keep them from coming over or calling. Yes, on the telephone, I could just hang up, but as soon as I did, they'd get in their car and come to my house, even though it was 1 and a hours away from them. (After he finally got clued in to it, he moved me across a couple state lines to prevent this, and he didn't call them to give them our new phone number.) Moving was the best thing I did.

Before I moved, I was going through all those med changes and dx changes. Docs and I couldn't seem to get it right. My side effects were worse than the depression/ anxiety/mood swings. So I too made up my mind to go med free. I slowly took myself off all those anti-depressants and mood stabilizers. Once I was down to nothing, I set my mind to just be. Be me. Whoever that was, I was just gonna be me. And if no one else liked the "true" me, well, they could stuff it. I'm determined not to go back....

As to when I get those neat little switches flipped in my brain, and I go from one extreme to the other, I cut myself some slack. I know I'm not perfect; I know I'm not like everybody else. I don't fit the norm, and I'm perfectly fine with that. It's everyone else's problem, not mine. All I do is make sure I do no harm to myself and/or others. And that's the hard part. But it is doable. It does take practice though, because you gotta know when this happens. You have to learn to control the emotion. Yes, I have been in therapy to learn how to cope. That therapy is priceless. I'm also lucky. I have family members that will gladly make it known to me that I seem highly irritable, or if I take things the wrong way to easily, or if they're "walking on eggshells" around me. They do this in love, not because they want to get their way with me. I take their criticism seriously. (No, they do not use this to their advantage. I wouldn't let 'em get away with that. I've also learned what justifiable anger is. I've also learned that it's okay to have things that annoy/aggravate/anger/etc. me, and that it is not okay for someone to do it to me out of spite. My folks know I know that too. ;) )

I have had depression/anxiety/bi-polar probably since birth, since I don't know any different at all. I cannot say, "I want to be my old self again." There is no "old self." You know what? I don't want to be any different either. I don't want to be other than what I am, and that's what meds did to me. They did change my personality. All I want is to not hurt myself or others, and I don't want to emotionally/mentally hurt every day. I don't have to. I don't have the reminders of it everyday. I understand why I am the way I am and I'm okay with it. I've learned how to take the destruction of bi-polar and used it for something positive, when and only when I can. It's up to others to decide if they can put up with me. If they can't, oh well.
 
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s_gunter said:
I was diagnosed with severe depression and anxiety, and bi-polar. Here's how I am med-free (note I said med-free, not cured.)
I had to completely break away from what was dragging me down and provoking my mood swings.
As to when I get those neat little switches flipped in my brain,
I make sure I do no harm to myself and/or others. it is doable. know when this happens. You have to learn to control the emotion. Yes, I have been in therapy to learn how to cope.

I've learned how to take the destruction of bi-polar and used it for something positive
Hey Gunter :)
GOOD for you! - And notice as you can get with a therapist who can help you *start new Goals/Strategies... completely within your control, & pleasure*, you will in-Christ be a new creature.

More power to you, in Jesus' name :thumbsup:
 
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