• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.

Today in Trump

cow451

Standing with Ukraine.
Site Supporter
May 29, 2012
41,108
24,136
Hot and Humid
✟1,120,516.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
But he's still saying he'll build the wall. Can you understand, thanks to my calling you on that verbal 'slight of hand,' what kind of tactics I was referring to above?

:yellowcard:

That one will have to wait until after the election. The Wall will be Trump's GITMO promise, thwarted by legal and political issues.

Trump 2020: "We tried to build the wall. We did everything humanly possible but (fill in name-- and insulting prefix --of somebody in Congress) and his/her corrupt supporters keep throwing up roadblocks .... it's really, really unfair how they are stopping the will of the people. Am I right? Keep me in the Trump White House and we'll build that glorious beautiful wall and.... who will pay? (pause) Mexico! America is so great now, so wonderfully White, er, great again! And Alzheimer's, really, really tragic.... and dementia... awful and Lyin' Ted and his Cuban assassin father.... and Crooked, uh, Marla... and words.... on that screen. Who did that? I didn't like that. My tie, beautiful Mexican tie. Selma Hayak is a great Amexican ambassador.... doing a great job."
 
Upvote 0

Aryeh Jay

Stuck on a ship.
Site Supporter
Jul 19, 2012
17,870
16,574
MI - Michigan
✟700,605.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Judaism
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
Oh, I'm well aware that the Cold War "Socialism=bad!" mindset is the root of the refusal to acknowledge NAZIsm as conservative. I still get immensely irritated by people who get hung up on what something is called, or supposed to do, or used to do, at the expense of understanding what it actually is.

See also; all the "Democrats are racists because they supported segregation" nonsense, and "Neolithic Venus Figurines are representations of the Roman Goddess Venus because they're called the same thing" dingbattery we had around here the other day.

One imagines these people visiting London, Ontario and complaining the locals were conspiring to hide Buckingham Palace and Trafalgar Square from them.

There you go with Venus again…
 
Upvote 0

ChristsSoldier115

Mabaho na Kuya
Jul 30, 2013
6,765
1,601
The greatest state in the Union: Ohio
✟41,502.00
Faith
Baptist
Marital Status
In Relationship
Upvote 0

cow451

Standing with Ukraine.
Site Supporter
May 29, 2012
41,108
24,136
Hot and Humid
✟1,120,516.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
When you can't deal with the facts, use insults.

YmRlYzZhNDFiMiMvMFJiMXBxZm5xTlJ3OXRrcVhPbDVHUVZfb2I4PS9maXQtaW4vOTAweDkwMC9maWx0ZXJzOm5vX3Vwc2NhbGUoKTpxdWFsaXR5KDgwKS9odHRwOi8vaW1hZ2VzLm1pYy5jb20venk4bnVpemxvZnR6OG1vOWVnd3FzcTllam5xdHYxdW9sdmpvNm9tdmFmZW9xMmRoZ2x3dXBnd3EzY3hvem51Mi5naWY.gif
 
  • Like
Reactions: USincognito
Upvote 0

Picky Picky

Old – but wise?
Apr 26, 2012
1,158
453
✟26,050.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Married
Politics
UK-Liberal-Democrats
Which is why they were put in place by the conservative Junkers. Hindenburg appointed Hitler Chancellor, he did not win a majority in an election.
Although, to be fair, Hindenburg didn't approve of him. Thought him common. Still went along with it. Considered that, Paul Ryan, John McCain et al?
 
Upvote 0

cow451

Standing with Ukraine.
Site Supporter
May 29, 2012
41,108
24,136
Hot and Humid
✟1,120,516.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Non-Denom
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
When are going to turn that frown upside-down and get that Ameritude you can only get from being on the Trump train?

You want me to get on the Trump Train? I'm sure that it would be exciting........

tumblr_na953aVVuX1te08jzo1_500.gif
 
Upvote 0

Armoured

So is America great again yet?
Site Supporter
Aug 31, 2013
34,362
14,061
✟257,467.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
What are you talking about? The Democratic People's Republic of Korea is completely democratic; everyone gets one vote, a true democracy.
I thought DPRK had a "one man, one vote" system, i.e. Kim Jong Un is the one man, and he has the one vote.
 
Upvote 0

Armoured

So is America great again yet?
Site Supporter
Aug 31, 2013
34,362
14,061
✟257,467.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
The one in CLEVELAND HEIGHTS lasted about an hour before police seized it because it was against the law. I am sure they got lots and lots of phone calls. So they had to take care of it so they could go back to eating donuts and drinking coffee and chasing pokemons. Police here spend most of their time responding to calls they get.
What law was the statue breaking?
 
Upvote 0

joshua 1 9

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
May 11, 2015
17,420
3,593
Northern Ohio
✟314,607.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
What law was the statue breaking?
Your not listening. I just told you. The law of people calling the police and complaining. The quicker they get rid of the statue the faster they can go back to eating donuts and drinking their coffee and chasing after pokemons.
 
Upvote 0

Armoured

So is America great again yet?
Site Supporter
Aug 31, 2013
34,362
14,061
✟257,467.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Catholic
Marital Status
Married
Your not listening. I just told you. The law of people calling the police and complaining. The quicker they get rid of the statue the faster they can go back to eating donuts and drinking their coffee and chasing after pokemons.
Yeah, not actually a law.
 
Upvote 0

Albion

Facilitator
Dec 8, 2004
111,127
33,264
✟584,012.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Anglican
Marital Status
Married
Well, except for the Nationalism
Nationalism is actually not a Conservative POV. Historically, it's a movement of popular revolt against the existing order.

We tend to think of it being Conservative--even though the Socialist regimes of recent memory (USSR, China, etc.) have been exceedingly nationalistic--but it's actually a movement or POV that arose in opposition to the kind of thinking that characterized Conservatism (universal verities, order, transcendent values, etc).

At the least, I'd call "Nationalism" a wash, having an appeal that isn't confined to the political Left or to the political Right, either.
 
Upvote 0

USincognito

a post by Alan Smithee
Site Supporter
Dec 25, 2003
42,070
16,820
Dallas
✟918,891.00
Country
United States
Gender
Male
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
Private
Nationalism is actually not a Conservative POV. Historically, it's a movement of popular revolt against the existing order.

We tend to think of it being Conservative--even though the Socialist regimes of recent memory (USSR, China, etc.) have been exceedingly nationalistic--but it's actually a movement or POV that arose in opposition to the kind of thinking that characterized Conservatism (universal verities, order, transcendent values, etc).

At the least, I'd call "Nationalism" a wash, having an appeal that isn't confined to the political Left or to the political Right, either.
What I find fascinating about Conservatives is many define conservatism not as political scientists do, but basically to mean positions they themselves hold.
 
Upvote 0