To Drink or not to Drink--That is the Question!!

[smooze]

beer is ok if the pope drinks it then it's got to be holy.

 

[Cliff2]

beer is ok if the pope drinks it then it's got to be holy.

That is a lot of beer for one man to drink.

 

[NeverADullMoment]

The pope also agrees that we evolved from apes, so his opinion and example aren't exactly biblical, now are they?

 

[honorthesabbath]

Can you really believe that such a thing happened as the Pope, the present

Pope would come out and support a beer company. Well it has happened.

Click here for more info about it.

WOW--thanks Cliff--I printed that one off for my Sabbath school class this week!! Oh well--alcohol consumption has always been a main stay of that church. I read a study once done on alcoholism in the priesthood--and it was mighty high (no pun intended)!!!! lol

 

[statrei]

The pope also agrees that we evolved from apes, so his opinion and example aren't exactly biblical, now are they?

Did he tell you we evolved from apes or did you jump to that conclusion from something else that he said?

 

[PaleHorse]

Did he tell you we evolved from apes or did you jump to that conclusion from something else that he said?

I think T&O said it clearly enough.

 

[honorthesabbath]

THE TRUTH ABOUT LIES


A lie is not the truth;the truth is not a lie. A lie always parades as truth; the truth never parades as a lie. A lie will call the truth a lie; the truth never calls a lie the truth.

 

[daveleau]

For Review

 

[daveleau]

Thread reopened. No one is immuned to the rules. Please read and heed them. Questioning and debate by the SDAs in this thread is fully allowed. Flaming is not, regardless of what someone says. Either answer them, report them (rule violations only) or silently ignore them.

 

[Olikamay]

From all that I have read in the bible and have seen in life. I cannot understand why one true Christian could or would defend drinking alcohol in any amount!

 

[statrei]

From all that I have read in the bible and have seen in life. I cannot understand why one true Christian could or would defend drinking alcohol in any amount!

Alcohol. It exists in so many formulations. I think you would like to differentiate between alcoholic beverages and alcohol. In any amount would be a problem since yeast occurs naturally.

 

[deu58]

Hi Olikamay

From all that I have read in the bible and have seen in life. I cannot understand why one true Christian could or would defend drinking alcohol in any amount!

Well, It invloves biblical truth, If the bible forbids drinking, Then we should all stay away from it, If it only forbids drunkeness then do we have the right to judge anyone who takes an occasional drink???

I believe in abstinence, But I can not use the bible to teach it, I use the bible to teach the dangers of drinking instead,

yours in Christ
deu 58

 

[Olikamay]

Hi Deu--I am wondering if cocaine had been in use in bible times if God would have put a restriction on the "amount" that one could snort??

 

[deu58]

Hi Olikamay

Hi Deu--I am wondering if cocaine had been in use in bible times if God would have put a restriction on the "amount" that one could snort??

Well, God did permit drinking and even made a holiday telling the Israelites that they could get drunker than skunks on that day and it was perfectly ok,


De 14:26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household,

yours in Christ
deu 58

 

[Olikamay]

Hi Olikamay



Well, God did permit drinking and even made a holiday telling the Israelites that they could get drunker than skunks on that day and it was perfectly ok,


De 14:26 And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household,

yours in Christ
deu 58

Oh my Deu--I hope your not serious about how you interpreted that text are you?? Tell me you are joking!!!

 

[HoneyDew]

Oh my Deu--I hope your not serious about how you interpreted that text are you?? Tell me you are joking!!!

How do you interpret the text, Olikamay?

 

[deu58]

Hi Olikamay

Oh my Deu--I hope your not serious about how you interpreted that text are you?? Tell me you are joking!!!

What is there to interpret??? I only posted the central verse, If you want you can go and read the verses that lead up to it,

The meaning is pretty plain,

yours in Christ
deu 58

 

[HoneyDew]

Hi Olikamay



What is there to interpret??? I only posted the central verse, If you want you can go and read the verses that lead up to it,

The meaning is pretty plain,

yours in Christ
deu 58

I can tell you one thing: that will not be scripture reading for Divine Service any time soon.

 

[deu58]

Hi Honeydew

I can tell you one thing: that will not be scripture reading for Divine Service any time soon.

No, And probably a good thing to, People have a tendency to abuse such things,

yours in Christ
deu 58

 

[Olikamay]

Well--if you read the text carefully--it concerns the "second tithe" that the Hebrews were to set aside for "festivals" of the Lord. The crux of the whole senerio is that if they had too much to bring to Jerusalem from where they lived--they were to sell those goods, bring the money with them, then buy whatever staples they would need both for "offerings" and for meals. Now were does the text say that were to get "drunker than skunks" as you put it.As a matter of fact--anyone who was "lusting" after booze to get drunk was a "Alcoholic" and what does the scripture say about that?? 1Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
So no Deu--these ppl were not getting drunk as you imply. Also-look at verse 27, it tells them to be sure and share what they have with the Levites--and you know that Levites were to have nothing of the "fruit of the vine". I sincerely believe that you have taken this text--out of context. Be careful not to give a young Christian to idea that God is pleased with drunkenness.