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Originally posted by What is a Darwin?
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I havent seen they're sources! Let me see them and I'll decide for myself if they are any more believable

That's kind of odd. They've been posted a number of times. Start with www.talkorigins.org
 
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from:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/hovind/howgood-yea2.html

 
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Originally posted by seesaw
I really wish I had the power to wipe our all crackpot stuff in the world.

Originally posted by JesusServant
But seesaw, that would be suicide! [/B]

Originally posted by seesaw
How so? I don't follow.

Well, Seesaw, it would appear that JesusServant was insulting you by insinuating that you were a crackpot that would be wiped out if you indeed had the power you wished to possess. Apparently though, this insult was rendered "ok" (and even humorous) by his addition of that little winky face emoticon at the end.
 
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To Tacokid: I was wondering, since you seem to hold "Dr" <cough> Hovind in such high regard, are you planning on attending the university from which "Dr" <cough> Hovind received (I can't get myself to type "earned") his "Ph.D." <cough>?

Also, please, please, PLEASE take the advice of so many on this thread and pop on over to www.talkorigins.org . PLEASE!
 
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Yeah I figured that. There has been so many insults today it's really crazy.
 
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tacokid:

How about you save some time and just say:

"Any objection you make, just go to www.drdino.com and it will be answered, because I'm too lazy to actually read and understand any of these objections, and why Dr. Dino has been proven wrong over and over again."

There. You're done. Saves you a lot of work.
 
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In that case, don't forget the rhythmites!&nbsp;
 
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From your website:&nbsp; "

It is now generally accepted that HIV is a descendant of simian (monkey) immunodeficiency virus (SIV). Certain simian immunodeficiency viruses bear a very close resemblance to HIV-1 and HIV-2, the two types of HIV."

"In February 1999 it was announced<SUP>1</SUP> that a group of researchers from the University of Alabama had studied frozen tissue from a chimpanzee and found that the simian virus it carried (SIV<SUB>cpz</SUB>) was almost identical to HIV-1. The chimpanzee came from a sub-group of chimpanzees known as Pan troglodytes troglodytes, which were once common in west-central Africa."

Now, Adam, in case you haven't followed the bolded parts, what the website is saying is that HIV is evolved from SIV. That is, HIV resulted from descent with modification from SIV.&nbsp; The question is where and when the tranferrence of SIV/HIV to humans took place.

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Actually, Pete, that's not a problem.&nbsp; Remember, founder populations arise from a single breeding pair.&nbsp;Abd these have been documented (drosophila in&nbsp;Hawaii for instance).&nbsp;It turns out that any given pair of a&nbsp;population carries about 75% of the genetic diversity of the population. (Futuyma, Evolutionary Biology, 1998)

There are thousands of falsifications of the Flood and Noah's Ark.&nbsp; This, unfortunately, isn't one of them.
 
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I gave you my sources. Why don't you address those? BTW, a source for refuting the slowing down of earth is

http://members.cox.net/ardipithecus/evol/lies/lie005.html

And, if you are interested, a "darwin" is the unit of morphological change.&nbsp; It is the natural logarithm of the change of the feature divided by time.
 
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Originally posted by What is a Darwin?
I've been asking for sources in just about all of my small number of posts!

OK, since you won't look for them, do a www.google.com search under "Hovind" and you'll find a bunch of sources.

Of course, the penultimate sources are the peer-reviewed scientific literature which use the ultimate source: the universe itself.&nbsp; The http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/hovind/&nbsp;will provide you with references to that peer-reviewed literature.&nbsp; Your next step beyond that is to go look up the particular papers at your public library or a university library.&nbsp; Please do so.
 
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My math is very different.&nbsp; You say you gain 1.5 seconds every 10^5 year.&nbsp; multiply that by 4.5 x 10^9 years and you get 6.75 x 10^4 seconds or 67,500 seconds. Now, there are 60 seconds to the minute and 60 minutes to the hour, so that is 3,600 seconds per hour.&nbsp; Divide 67,500 by 3,600 and you get 18.75 hours.&nbsp; Now subtract 18.75 from 24 and you get a day of 5.25 hours 4.5 billion years ago.

Now, that assumes, of course, that the slowdown has been linear and that you got the figures right from NASA to begin with.&nbsp; Both those assumptions are open to question.&nbsp; See http://members.cox.net/ardipithecus/evol/lies/lie005.html&nbsp;
 
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Originally posted by JohnR7
Why don't you prove that God did not create the universe. Then you could collect the $250,000 reward.

I got to this forum by reference from Hovind's website. I looked at the "challenge" and saw immediately that it is rigged.&nbsp; Hovind doesn't want people to "prove" evolution, he wants people to "prove" atheism.&nbsp; Nice sleight of hand on his part.&nbsp; I e-mailed Dr. Dino about that little trick.&nbsp; Is anyone surprised that no one answered the e-mail?

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