To all athiests out there: bring it on

tacoman528 · Dec 19, 2002

like what

lithium. · Dec 19, 2002

Originally posted by tacoman528
like what

Everything!

tacoman528 · Dec 19, 2002

lithium. · Dec 19, 2002

Originally posted by tacoman528
lol

LOL? sorry but you are only laughing at yourself

ocean · Dec 19, 2002

Hovind is a liar, he is spreading known falsehoods to try to con people.

If you want a legitimate creationist site, try ICR www.icr.org

tacoman528 · Dec 19, 2002

 To pete harcoff,

  All of your statements about my previous explanations will be responded to shortly.

ocean · Dec 19, 2002

tacokid,

Let me ask you a question. Why would you believe a 4000 year old book written by middle-eastern nomads instead of hundreds of years of scientific reaserch and mountains of evidence?

Smilin · Dec 19, 2002

Originally posted by tacoman528
Please see one of my previous posting for a list of reason why the earth is less than 6000 years old. goto www-drdino-com for even more reasons. And I would appreciate some evidence as to why the earth is more than 10,000 years old. Before you say RADIOCARBON!!! be sure to see Dr. Hovind's explanation for that at his website near the top of this message.

Please see my response to your list, and reply if you can why my statements are wrong.  Noone, yet, has disputed my claims that proved your statements wrong.

Drdino..please...I'd rather visit www.rotten.com during lunchtime.  I gave you evidence.  Now either respond or concede.

and Radio Carbon Dating? check again...that method of measurement isn't accurate past 10,000 years.  You REALLY need to familiarize yourself with scientific dating methods before you bash on them.  Hint: Research Uranimium decay rates as a start.  (This method gave us the current true age of the earth)

And I trust a physicist/nuclear engineer on the topic of radioactive decay rates more than I'd trust Hovind.  Hovind is merely brain-washing you with his hogwash.

Would you trust a shade-tree auto mechanic for a heart by-pass? I doubt it.  You REALLY need to search alternate sources and compare them with Hovind's before you attempt to debate scientific proofs.  TRUE scientists consult multiple sources/publications/textbooks/experts to prevent the 'open mouth - insert foot' result.

tacoman528 · Dec 19, 2002

I am actually quite fond of the Institute for Creation Research, I have been to their museums, and I quite enjoyed them all. If Hovind can't convince you using his seminars, I suggest you visit these museums and witness the evidence first-hand.

Smilin · Dec 19, 2002

Originally posted by ocean
tacokid,

Let me ask you a question. Why would you believe a 4000 year old book written by middle-eastern nomads instead of hundreds of years of scientific reaserch and mountains of evidence?

a theological book at that...not a book of science.

Pete Harcoff · Dec 19, 2002

Originally posted by Smilin

Drdino..please...I'd rather visit [a really yucky site] during lunchtime.  I gave you evidence.  Now either respond or concede.

Er, I don't think that's a Christian-friendly link there, Smilin'.

Smilin · Dec 19, 2002

Originally posted by tacoman528
I am actually quite fond of the Institute for Creation Research, I have been to their museums, and I quite enjoyed them all. If Hovind can't convince you using his seminars, I suggest you visit these museums and witness the evidence first-hand.

Sad to see one so young deceived.  Many your age professed the same about David Koresh, Jim Jomes, and Mr. Moon. 

ocean · Dec 19, 2002

What evidence? All the evidence seems to point to a 4.5 billion year old earth and evolution.

seebs · Dec 19, 2002

Originally posted by tacoman528
I am actually quite fond of the Institute for Creation Research, I have been to their museums, and I quite enjoyed them all. If Hovind can't convince you using his seminars, I suggest you visit these museums and witness the evidence first-hand.

Since the reason I think Hovind is unconvincing is that I have solid reason to believe that he's a con man preying on gullible people, and that his evidence is variously faked up, why should going to look at the same tired arguments help any?

ICR makes people swear an oath never to disagree with creation, no matter what evidence they find. How on *earth* could I mistake them for scientists?

Smilin · Dec 19, 2002

Originally posted by Pete Harcoff
Er, I don't think that's a Christian-friendly link there, Smilin'.

It's not...thus my point.

Smilin · Dec 19, 2002

Originally posted by tacoman528
could you copy and paste all of those on a message right after this one, I don't feel like looking for it through 20 pages of letters. Thanks. I will be happy to place my scientific explanations for them.

You made the claims, I refuted them.  Sorry, noone put all the textbooks in front of me.  Back up and do your own homework.

tacoman528 · Dec 19, 2002

To Smilin',
Because of the extremely long explanation for Carbon Dating, I will, once again, refer you to Dr. Hovind at www-drdino-com for the answer to your questions about radiocarbon. It was a neat idea, but it doesn't work. You will find all your scientific answers for the radiocarbon question in Hovind's statement about it. Also be sure to read his Equilibrium Response. There you have it for RadioCarbon. I will now respond to Pete Harcoff's statement about my evidence for the age of the earth and I will not be able to respond to questions for a while as it takes a while to type.

Pete Harcoff · Dec 19, 2002

Originally posted by ocean
Hovind is a liar, he is spreading known falsehoods to try to con people.

If you want a legitimate creationist site, try ICR www.icr.org

Actually, I think the term "legitimate creationist site" (at least from a scientific perspective) is an oxymoron. Both ICR and AIG have it in their mandate to outright reject any evidence that disproves their version of Biblical creationism. That's hardly being intellectually honest about things.

ocean · Dec 19, 2002

tacokid,

WE DON'T BELIEVE HOVIND! He is a liar and a con man and his so-called "evidence" has been refuted. I would  believe in santa claus before I would believe Hovind.

Annabel Lee · Dec 19, 2002

Originally posted by What is a Darwin?
To Annabel,
I'm sure you are usually a very err... interesting person.

I think you better explain this comment. I have no idea who you are or why you said it.

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