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For those who go to church on a regular basis, I was just wondering your views on it. I'll post mine a little later.
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Thunder Peel
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I think it's essential; "give to Caesar what is Caesar's and to God what is God's." It's the least we can do to give back when He's given us so much. It's something I've always believe strongly in and I think God excepts us to do it.
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kevlite2020
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I do think tithing is important, but I don't know the exactness of it (like do we have to give exactly 10%, is it good to give even more, does it matter if we give less, etc). This is something I'm currently struggling on. I was formerly living off of money from my parents and they forbid me to tithe using it, and seeing as it is their money, I could not. But now I have paychecks of my own, I do want to tithe and I'm getting ready to start doing that.
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I don't believe in tithing. It's just don't think it's a good use of our money. I feel like it's basically throwing away our finances, and I already have a tightly-balanced budget to begin with most months, I'd feel like I was just burning it into oblivion. I've never bought into the whole "You'll get something back some day for doing it, in some manner [From God, or what have you]".
It's not practical for our lives. I'll put some change in the collection plate if I happen to have any on me, that's the extent of it.
It's not practical for our lives. I'll put some change in the collection plate if I happen to have any on me, that's the extent of it.
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Giving of your money to good causes and the sharing of the gospel is a good thing. And perhaps 10% is a good rule of thumb.
However I tend to think it to be a bit on the legalistic side to say you must give 10% of your pre-tax income.
On top of that we should never give with the intention of getting something back as the prosperity heresy would teach us. If you give then you should give with the intentions that Jesus had when he gave. Not to get something back, but with a sincere love for all people and a desire to spread the gospel.
On top of that I tend to belive that giving one's time to the church can also count as part of an offering or tithe. The concept of tithing is based off of the OT where Jews would give 10% of their harvests to the temple. This wasn't money, but it was something that is of value, just like time is today.
However I tend to think it to be a bit on the legalistic side to say you must give 10% of your pre-tax income.
On top of that we should never give with the intention of getting something back as the prosperity heresy would teach us. If you give then you should give with the intentions that Jesus had when he gave. Not to get something back, but with a sincere love for all people and a desire to spread the gospel.
On top of that I tend to belive that giving one's time to the church can also count as part of an offering or tithe. The concept of tithing is based off of the OT where Jews would give 10% of their harvests to the temple. This wasn't money, but it was something that is of value, just like time is today.
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I believe in 10% and possibly more if one has the means. I say more because 10% was the mandatory amount Israel gave in the OT times. How much more should we give today who have been given God's Holy Spirit that dwells inside us, wheras the Jews only had Him fill them for a season. How much more should we give today who have seen the promise of the prophets come to pass and are receivers of the mercies and gracious ways of God on a daily basis. So basically my stance is not out of legalism but out of the benefits He already gives us. Not to mention the plenty of places in The Bible where God gives us details on giving.
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I've always believed that we are to give 10% of our earnings as tithe. 10% pretax because of scripture saying give to Ceaser that which is Ceasers and to God that which is Gods. So I assume that it is pretax.
Now, I'm trying to find the scripture to base that on but all Im finding (just looked for a minute) is where it mentioned Abraham being blessed for giving 10% of his spoils. I'm not finding yet where it says you have to, but those about Abraham imply to me that it's a good thing. I thought there was another scripture where it stated God will bless you tenfold what you give, but I'm not sure what that is in reference to exactly to be able to state for sure.
Whether to tithe more than that....I would think it's up to the person and if their heart is in the right place when giving it.
Tithing less....I'm still trying to find where it says it's a must for those wanting to make a decision based on a "commandment", so I can't give an opion on this one yet.
Overall, I do tithe (although I may grimace for a second at the thought of things that need to be paid at home), but I don't think it necessarily HAS to be monetary. If you don't have it, you just don't have it but I don't feel that God is looking at the amount. I feel he looks at your heart and obediance. It can be an offering of your time, skills, etc.
I do think you should tithe, and maybe I can find something scriptural based or someone else can to prove so or otherwise.
Now, I'm trying to find the scripture to base that on but all Im finding (just looked for a minute) is where it mentioned Abraham being blessed for giving 10% of his spoils. I'm not finding yet where it says you have to, but those about Abraham imply to me that it's a good thing. I thought there was another scripture where it stated God will bless you tenfold what you give, but I'm not sure what that is in reference to exactly to be able to state for sure.
Whether to tithe more than that....I would think it's up to the person and if their heart is in the right place when giving it.
Tithing less....I'm still trying to find where it says it's a must for those wanting to make a decision based on a "commandment", so I can't give an opion on this one yet.
Overall, I do tithe (although I may grimace for a second at the thought of things that need to be paid at home), but I don't think it necessarily HAS to be monetary. If you don't have it, you just don't have it but I don't feel that God is looking at the amount. I feel he looks at your heart and obediance. It can be an offering of your time, skills, etc.
I do think you should tithe, and maybe I can find something scriptural based or someone else can to prove so or otherwise.
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There ARE lots of areas that state to be a giver of certain things.
I agree that you shouldn't give just to recieve, but I also believe in standing on God's promises. If it states that we are to be blessed, then I see nothing wrong about giving with the expectation (as in having faith in) of being blessed. I think your heart needs to be in a state of gratitude and hope when giving, not demanding. There's nothing wrong though, IMO, of standing on promises He has given to us. There is a difference though., and I agree to that.
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This is a topic I don't feel needs to be argued though. As in, we are not to criticize or LOOK to notice if someone is tithing or not. It's something between that person and God...a personal thing. I say that in general, not to anyone on here.
I agree that you shouldn't give just to recieve, but I also believe in standing on God's promises. If it states that we are to be blessed, then I see nothing wrong about giving with the expectation (as in having faith in) of being blessed. I think your heart needs to be in a state of gratitude and hope when giving, not demanding. There's nothing wrong though, IMO, of standing on promises He has given to us. There is a difference though., and I agree to that.
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This is a topic I don't feel needs to be argued though. As in, we are not to criticize or LOOK to notice if someone is tithing or not. It's something between that person and God...a personal thing. I say that in general, not to anyone on here.
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I believe in tithing as well. I think pastors merely replaced the preists of the OT, and that the 10% is still needed to upkeep the church building and electricity and so that the pastor can eat. I don't think God abolished it.
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I attend regularly, and tithe regularly. I attend a church that does a lot of outreach and i want to provide what i can to help it's missions here and abroad. I want to see my church's doors stay open to reach the lost because it has helped me in many ways.
I believe that tithing is important, and that you should give what you can. Especially if you're settled into a church that you call home, and you believe in the ministry and messages you get from it. There was a time where i was praying about my finances, and whether or not i should give more to the church. For a while i didn't tithe at all so that i could pay off debts. I felt at peace that God would want me to be debt free so i could open my finances more. When i was able to do so, i rolled that money back into the church. Now i'm giving about 20 percent and still live rather comfortably.
I used to have a similar thought. I sort of took it that God will be blessing you with money, or other riches if you were commited to tithing. And perhaps God DOES bless others that way, but i found that i was being blessed by watching others receive help and ministry through the church. With the outreach projects we have, i'm able to drop a check into an envelope with a note explaining that i would like to see "X%" to go to inner city outreach, and X% to go to Malawi, or the childrens fund in Honduras etc... Then i can get feedback from the church about how these ministries are doing, how people are being saved and blessed with things they've never had.
I believe that tithing is important, and that you should give what you can. Especially if you're settled into a church that you call home, and you believe in the ministry and messages you get from it. There was a time where i was praying about my finances, and whether or not i should give more to the church. For a while i didn't tithe at all so that i could pay off debts. I felt at peace that God would want me to be debt free so i could open my finances more. When i was able to do so, i rolled that money back into the church. Now i'm giving about 20 percent and still live rather comfortably.
I used to have a similar thought. I sort of took it that God will be blessing you with money, or other riches if you were commited to tithing. And perhaps God DOES bless others that way, but i found that i was being blessed by watching others receive help and ministry through the church. With the outreach projects we have, i'm able to drop a check into an envelope with a note explaining that i would like to see "X%" to go to inner city outreach, and X% to go to Malawi, or the childrens fund in Honduras etc... Then i can get feedback from the church about how these ministries are doing, how people are being saved and blessed with things they've never had.
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And perhaps God DOES bless others that way, but i found that i was being blessed by watching others receive help and ministry through the church.
---->great point!
---->great point!
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GQ Chris
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There's lots of Pastors out there who use it for their sermons, and teach that if you don't tithe(exactly 10 percent) then you will be missing God's blessing.
Even worse ones on popular Evangelical television channels that if you don't "sow your seed" of a Thousand bucks right now by calling this 800 number, you'll miss your miracle, LOL!
Even worse ones on popular Evangelical television channels that if you don't "sow your seed" of a Thousand bucks right now by calling this 800 number, you'll miss your miracle, LOL!
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