Time Loop

[JohnEmmett]

Oh, there's a lot of stuff that compares to that.

Compares to a time loop?

Those who don’t take it seriously cannot know

 

[Freodin]

The Mandela effect is reality contradicting itself

Those who know this is happening are trying to cope

Nope. It's not reality contradicting itself. There is never a contradiction in reality involved in the Mandela effect. It is always an issue of perception and memory. Which can indeed contradict itself... though in the case of the Mandela effect, it mostly contradicts other perceptions and memories. Which is a lot easier again.

I can only repeat: you have absolutely nothing to offer to back up your claims, except more claims. The thing that you - and the other people - are having problems coping with is their own fallibility.

Compares to a time loop?

Those who don’t take it seriously cannot know

Possible. But the more serious problem: those who take it serious demonstrate constantly that they don't have a clue about it.

 

[JohnEmmett]

But the more serious problem: those who take it serious demonstrate constantly that they don't have a clue about it.

I previously thought you doubt the truth


But I think you are just a believer


Whereas I have a lot of skepticism

 

[JohnEmmett]

I am skeptical of the mundane


Rather I cannot believe in it

 

[Freodin]

I previously thought you doubt the truth


But I think you are just a believer


Whereas I have a lot of skepticism

Yeah, you obviously have a lot of skepticism!

Anything is possible

LOOOOOOTS of skepticism!!!

I am skeptical of the mundane


Rather I cannot believe in it

Nope. You just have your narrative, and you refuse to acknowledge anything that you think contradicts it. Because you cannot accept that you might be wrong.

But you do accept "the mundane". Because it is mundane, and you aren't even aware that you accept it. If you really didn't... you wouldn't be here.

 

[JohnEmmett]

Yeah, you obviously have a lot of skepticism!

You know it's not happening


You are so confident

 

[JohnEmmett]

I am aware of what people are saying…


So, I know enough to speak

 

[JohnEmmett]

It's very similar to a dream you remember


No one can convince you of not having dreamed it

 

[Freodin]

It's very similar to a dream you remember


No one can convince you of not having dreamed it

You might be aware of the difference between "having dreamed it" and "it really happened to me".

But perhaps such trivialities are too mundane for you...

 

[JohnEmmett]

You might be aware of the difference between "having dreamed it" and "it really happened to me"

You are skeptical without any reason


That’s why I say you just believe

 

[Freodin]

You are skeptical without any reason


That’s why I say you just believe

You're so cute.
I am skeptical for some very good and valid reasons. From shared knowledge, logical thinking to personal experiences. Like a trained ability for lucid dreaming. Which might surprise you is something that is dependent of dreams not really happening.

So... even if I very much like and enjoy stories... I prefer to live in reality.

 

[JohnEmmett]

I am skeptical for some very good and valid reasons.

This too will pass

 

[Freodin]

This too will pass

To quote someone you might know:
"You know it's not happening


You are so confident"

 

[JohnEmmett]

To quote someone you might know:
You are so confident

My confidence is based on investigation

 

[Freodin]

Your confidence is based on a lack of investigation


My confidence is based on investigation

You will certainly be skeptical of that statement, but watching YouTube videos and accepting any "non mundane" claim you run into as absolute truth does not count as "investigation".

Nor does not unquestioning accepting any claim you make as "lack of investigation".

My confidence is backed by long experience. Yours... well, let's say I have my guesses...

 

[JohnEmmett]

My confidence is backed by long experience.

The long experience of many is contradicted by the current world


Especially regarding the world map


But only few are willing to check their memory

~

 

[Freodin]

The long experience of many is contradicted by the current world

Especially regarding the world map


But only few are willing to check their memory

~

Perception, my dear friend, perception. Also overconfidence and an inability to accept their own fallibility.

I am very aware of things that I "remember" that are not true. I am very aware that my memory is even more limited than my perception.
And I don't have the hubris to assume that reality accomodates my mind.

Take "the world map" for example. A bit of "investigation" would have told you that geography is a highly complex topic, reaching far beyond "maps".
But all those people who "remember" differences in the maps fail to "remember" the connected changes that such differences would include. Mainly because those people have no clue about what they are talking and cannot even imaging the results of their fictional "changes in the world map". A little learning is a dangerous thing.

 

[JohnEmmett]

A little learning is a dangerous thing.

Most people do not know the map


Hence they would not know the difference


Even if the difference was significant

~

 

[JohnEmmett]

I have watched the map change


Everywhere it is different

 

[Freodin]

Most people do not know the map


Hence they would not know the difference


Even if the difference was significant

~

Perhaps you have missed the point of my post: if there was a significant difference in the geography... the difference would not be limited to visuals.

You say you have "watched" the map change. I doubt that you could explain the unchanged geography in a consistent way. And still you claim to "know" the map.

A little learning is a dangerous thing.