Time frames that end on the day that Jesus Returns

[Douggg]

 

[Douggg]

In order to put all the events of the end times together into one timeline, we have been given a number of time frames to work with.

1 week (7 years) - Daniel 9:27

1260 days - Revelation 11:3, Revelation 12:6

42 months - Revelation 11:2, Revelation 13:5

3 1/2 days - Revelation 11:11

5 months - Revelation 9:10

1290 days, 1335 days - Daniel 12:11-12

time, times, half time - Revelation 12:14, Daniel 7:25. Daniel 12:7

2300 days - Daniel 8:14

7 years - Ezekiel 39:9

7 months - Ezekiel 39:12

1000 years - Revelation 20:4, Revelation 20:7

 

[Logicalpaladin]

In order to put all the events of the end times together into one timeline, we have been given a number of time frames to work with.

1 week (7 years) - Daniel 9:27

1260 days - Revelation 11:3, Revelation 12:6

42 months - Revelation 11:2, Revelation 13:5

3 1/2 days - Revelation 11:11

5 months - Revelation 9:10

1290 days, 1335 days - Daniel 12:11-12

time, times, half time - Revelation 12:14, Daniel 7:25. Daniel 12:7

2300 days - Daniel 8:14

7 years - Ezekiel 39:9

7 months - Ezekiel 39:12

1000 years - Revelation 20:4, Revelation 20:7

There is no indication on what day that Jesus returns. It is based on the number of martyrs determined ahead of time by the Father. That’s what the fifth seal says. Then the sixth seal brings the Day of the Lord, the rapture, which is the great multitude in heaven. Between the fifth seal and the sixth, the 144,000 will be sealed.

 

[Marilyn C]

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I agree with some of your notes however we need to remember what Jesus said -

`And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect`s sake those days will be shortened.` (Matt. 24: 22)

 

[Marilyn C]

The trib, is 6 years and 11 months and ends with the Lord returning. (Matt. 24: 22)

The 70th week, is 7 years and finishes with the temple being cleansed a month after the Lord returns. (Dan. 9: 24)

 

[keras]

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Just calling the 2300 evenings and mornings 'days', shows your error.
It isn't hard to figure out that the 1150 actual days of Daniel 8:14, are Prophesying the time period from a desecration of the Temple to its restoration and re-dedication, is past history and exactly fits from when King Antiochus 4th Epiphanes, slaughtered a pig on the Altar in 167 GC and Judas Maccabees, defeated him in 164 BC.
Fulfilled Prophecy.

Also the extra days in Danel 12.....1290 days and 1335 days, exactly fit AFTER Jesus Returns on the Day of Tabernacles, 30 days to a day of reconciliation and 75 days to the Day of Hanukkah, the Temple re-dedication.

Again- the 7 years of cleansing the Land in Ezekiel 39:9, is not and cannot be the same period as the treaty of Daniel 9:27

 

[Douggg]

Just calling the 2300 evenings and mornings 'days', shows your error.
It isn't hard to figure out that the 1150 actual days of Daniel 8:14, are Prophesying the time period from a desecration of the Temple to its restoration and re-dedication, is past history and exactly fits from when King Antiochus 4th Epiphanes, slaughtered a pig on the Altar in 167 GC and Judas Maccabees, defeated him in 164 BC.
Fulfilled Prophecy.

Also the extra days in Danel 12.....1290 days and 1335 days, exactly fit AFTER Jesus Returns on the Day of Tabernacles, 30 days to a day of reconciliation and 75 days to the Day of Hanukkah, the Temple re-dedication.

Again- the 7 years of cleansing the Land in Ezekiel 39:9, is not and cannot be the same period as the treaty of Daniel 9:27

In the 2300 day prophecy...

1day = the morning sacrifice + the evening sacrifice. Two lambs a day, one in the morning, one in the evening. If it were 1150 days, the text would have just said so. But because the little horn stops the daily sacrifice of the two lambs, the prophecy says 2300 days of that daily sacrifice (the mornings and the evenings).

The 2300 day prophecy about the little horn's actions are time of the end. Daniel 8:17. Antiochus IV was not time of the end.

 

[Douggg]

I agree with some of your notes however we need to remember what Jesus said -

`And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect`s sake those days will be shortened.` (Matt. 24:22)

Hi Marilyn, "those days (of the great tribulation, implied)"

Shortened in that verse does not mean a reduction in the number of days in the text of Daniel 12:11-12, but that the number of days would not be more than the days listed - otherwise, no flesh on earth would survive. The verse is essentially saying the length of the great tribulation will be limited to 1335 days. The verse is also indicating the severity of the great tribulation.

The great tribulation will be 1335 days long. Ending the day that Jesus returns.

 

[Marilyn C]

Hi Marilyn, "those days (of the great tribulation, implied)"

Shortened in that verse does not mean a reduction in the number of days in the text of Daniel 12:11-12, but that the number of days would not be more than the days listed - otherwise, no flesh on earth would survive. The verse is essentially saying the length of the great tribulation will be limited to 1335 days. The verse is also indicating the severity of the great tribulation.

The great tribulation will be 1335 days long. Ending the day that Jesus returns.

The 1,335 is the `blessed time.` (Dan. 12: 12) And that is certainly not when the Lord comes for people of the world`s armies will be dying, (the flesh dissolve while they stand on their feet. Zech. 14: 12) others will be taken away in judgment. Then after all that `horror` Jesus will reveal Himself to the people in Jerusalem. They will then go into mourning. (Zech. 12: 10 & 11)

So no `blessed` time there. That comes later. Thus, the 1,335 days is NOT when the Lord comes but rather when Israel celebrates their National deliverance, (Esther 9: 18, Adar 15)

 

[Douggg]

okay fellow saints, let's add in the remainder of the time frames we have to work with....

 

[Douggg]

The 1,335 is the `blessed time.` (Dan. 12: 12)

Here is what the verse says,

Daniel 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

They will be blessed because they will reign and rule with Jesus for the next 1000 years after He returns.

 

[Douggg]

Again- the 7 years of cleansing the Land in Ezekiel 39:9, is not and cannot be the same period as the treaty of Daniel 9:27

keras, it is not 7 years of cleansing the land, but 7 months.

Ezekiel 39:12 And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land.

 

[keras]

1day = the morning sacrifice + the evening sacrifice

Your beliefs don't fit what the Prophets say and your logic is wakadoodle.

2300 evenings and mornings........
One evening and one morning in a day, one day uses 1 evening and 1 morning, leaving 2298 to go.
Total of 2300 evenings and mornings, equals 1150 days.

Have you the moral fortitude to correct your errors, or are you so locked into those wrong theories that it will only be when it all happens?
Jesus will have no rewards for you; your teachings [works] will be all burned up. 1 Corinthians 3-13-15

 

[Douggg]

Total of 2300 evenings and mornings, equals 1150 days.

keras, 1150 evenings and 1150 mornings = 1150 days.

As every day has a morning and an evening to it.

2300 evenings and mornings is a way of saying 2300 days of the daily sacrifice of the two lambs.

And in the text, it says... kjv

Daniel 8:14 And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.

 

[keras]

And in the text, it says... kjv

Just another reason for your errors and mistaken beliefs.
To make the KJV inerrant was never the intention of those translators in 1600, they knew there were other manuscripts but not available to them,
We have the modern advantage of far better and understandable Bibles. Why do you rate the KJV over them?

 

[Douggg]

Just another reason for your errors and mistaken beliefs.
To make the KJV inerrant was never the intention of those translators in 1600, they knew there were other manuscripts but not available to them,
We have the modern advantage of far better and understandable Bibles. Why do you rate the KJV over them?

Why the kjv is better than the rest is a whole debate unto itself.

Many of the modern translations are what is called "though-for-thought" translations. The kjv is a "word for word" translation.

The "thought-for-thought" translations are intended to make reading the bible easier using modern language. The kjv is more difficult to read because it has some old English style to it. such as, the thee's and thou's.

The "thought-for-thought" translations while easier to read are not as accurate as the kjv. I think that the REB 1989 bible has some thought-for-thought elements to it - from what I have read about it. Bibles, like the Living Bible are thought-for-thought translations, which can be good for someone just starting out as a Christian. But can be misleading as a person starts advance attempts at making timelines.

 

[keras]

Why the kjv is better than the rest is a whole debate unto itself.

Why the KJV should be rejected and ignored, is obvious. Many books and articles show the errors and confusions caused by mis-translations and the archaic language.
In the Interlinear transliteration of the original Hebrew of Daniel 8:14 says: evenings and part of days.

But can be misleading as a person starts advance attempts at making timelines.

You have been misled and what is worse; you mislead others.

 

[Marilyn C]

Here is what the verse says,

Daniel 12:12 Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

They will be blessed because they will reign and rule with Jesus for the next 1000 years after He returns.




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Now Douggg, where does it say that the A/C starts half way through the trib?

 

[Douggg]

Now Douggg, where does it say that the A/C starts half way through the trib?

I am not sure what you mean. But my notation is meant to say that the beast is the same person as the Antichrist but at a later stage.

What I will do is remove the Antichrist notation from the chart. What about this ? Does it solve the issue ?

 

[Marilyn C]

I am not sure what you mean. But my notation is meant to say that the beast is the same person as the Antichrist but at a later stage.

What I will do is remove the Antichrist notation from the chart. What about this ? Does it solve the issue ?


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Thanks Douggg, however the point I`m trying to make is that the A/C will rule `before` the mid-point. And then it is from there that we can measure 1,260, 1,290 & 1,335 days.