Time for Islam to defend yourself?

[LittleLambofJesus]

BigChrisFilm, you're giving Christianity a bad name by insulting Muslims here.

According to your illogic, they can now say "Christianity is full of hateful, arrogant people." You're giving them an excuse to flame you. Is that what you want?

I much prefer to "battle" the muslims with the "sword of the Word", the Holy Bible Scriptures.

Reve 19:13 He [was] clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses. 15 Now out of His mouth goes a sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations.[SIZE=+2] [/SIZE]

 

[Daniel_Oak]

All I have done is show them what I found, they can come up with there own conclusions, I show them the truth, if they refuse it, then that is there decision, I am not so concerned with how other percieve me, I found this, I put a question mark in the title to show that I was not saying that it IS time, rather, I was asking a question, they got right on the defensive. While I have never heard any muslim talk like this, I don't know very many, like I said in the other post, I am not giving anything a bad name, "Christianity is full of hateful, arrogant people" They can say that, and do, without my post, my post proves nothing, and at no time have I been hateful, or arrogant.

Hi BigChrisfilm, the problem is that you quoted some people who claimed to be Muslims and than demanded that the Muslims here explain themselves for what these people said. Perhaps you didn't mean it, but your wording implied that you were judging all Muslims into the same catergory as those who you quoted. It would be the equivalent of some Christian cursing me and then me demanding that all the Christians who post here explain themselves for it. Try not to judge people because of what a few, who claim to have the same beliefs, say.

I'm sure that you don't mean to offend but the very fact that you posted these quotes with the implications that these are standard muslims opinions is greatly insulting. You should take a little more care and consideration with what you imply.

All the best for today,

Daniel Oak.

 

[yaqovzadeek]

"Craig winn you ignorant & lier authour...how dare you write that false book???
you will regret for all what u said about Islam & the last messenger of god the master of the mankind...
***So you have to choose one from two options:
1)To take your book (Prophet of Doom : Islam's Terrorist Dogma in Muhammad's Own Words) out of circulation & to close your website & to apologize officialy for the prophet Muhammad peace upon him & for islam..
2)Or you will be killed suddenly & in an unexpected way (we know where do you live)
***Imprtant Notice: *This is a SERIOUS message proceeded from THE JEALOUS MUSLIM GROUP. *You have only 6 days(from 4.jan to 10.jan 2005) to choose the first option or we will consider you chosen the second option & then you just have to get ready for a kill at every moment...
*If you choose the first option you must send us an email to inform us about the details of stopping the book & your apologize.
*You may send us any email during the 6 days.
**THE JEALOUS MUSLIM GROUP**"[/quote]

A guy that wrote a website Prophet of Doom, has posted severial e-mail he has recieved from Muslims, care to explain yourselves?

Time for Islam to defend yourself?

Against what? against who Craig winn the Joker?

A guy that wrote a website Prophet of Doom, has posted severial e-mail he has recieved from Muslims, care to explain yourselves?

Did you not read my previous post in another thread about how my friend annilated him live on national radio?Craig winn is a liar,he has not even read the quran he admitted to my friend Jalal on Live national radio that he did not read the Quran.So he wrote a bok full of fiction about the prophet of Islam and did not even read the Quran.What a clown and he expects people to beleive him.Jalal Abu Arrub asked him to quote one verse from the Quran and he was unable to do so. here is the link to the debate listen for yourself:

http://www.invitation2truth.com/mp3/debate-myth-prophet-of-doom.mp3

Peace
Yaqovzadeek
aka james the James the just

 

[yaqovzadeek]

A guy that wrote a website Prophet of Doom, has posted severial e-mail he has recieved from Muslims, care to explain yourselves?

"Craig winn you ignorant & lier authour...how dare you write that false book???
you will regret for all what u said about Islam & the last messenger of god the master of the mankind...
***So you have to choose one from two options:
1)To take your book (Prophet of Doom : Islam's Terrorist Dogma in Muhammad's Own Words) out of circulation & to close your website & to apologize officialy for the prophet Muhammad peace upon him & for islam..
2)Or you will be killed suddenly & in an unexpected way (we know where do you live)
***Imprtant Notice: *This is a SERIOUS message proceeded from THE JEALOUS MUSLIM GROUP. *You have only 6 days(from 4.jan to 10.jan 2005) to choose the first option or we will consider you chosen the second option & then you just have to get ready for a kill at every moment...
*If you choose the first option you must send us an email to inform us about the details of stopping the book & your apologize.
*You may send us any email during the 6 days.
**THE JEALOUS MUSLIM GROUP**"

To inflame haterd against Islam some who have nothing at all to do with Islam do things and say things pretending too be muslims. These people are hiding behind the internet and email.No one knows who they really are.Jalal already debated the Guy and humilliated him on national radio there is no need to use violence against him.
Peace
Yaqovzadeek
Aka james the Just

 

[yaqovzadeek]

**THE JEALOUS MUSLIM GROUP**"

Jealous muslims group,I have never laughed so much in my life.What doo muslim have to be Jealous of ? Christianity? What does christianity have to offer that is better than islam?
What A Joke? This must have neen made up by Criag and his cons and liars.
Peace
Yaqovzadeek
Aka James the Just

 

[alyaba]

that email could have easaly been writtin by him but lets assume its true, what does it have to do with me or any other muslim, the only person that should defend it or eplain it or what ever would be the person that wrote it.

secondly, lets not act as if muslims are the only ones that say crazy stuff i have heard jews say that palastine should be nuked or that all of them shold be killed i have also heard similer things from christians, and you would be crazy to deny that.

 

[Lynden1000]

How about this one?

"craig i am a jew, i cant believe u r doin this u have no right to contridict any religon i say christianity is a sh*t hole i am going to convert in to islam because i beilive that this is the right path. look at christian the have sex with girl everyday even thought they r married like u! look at this u haven seen the secret society of sationist worshiper thios is their sign
next time u dis the muslim i will kick the f*ck oput of u and murder u you white b*st*rd and ur family and everyone u love motherf*ckers !!!!!!!!!!!-!!!!!!!!!!!-!!!!!!!!!!!-!!!!!!!!!!!-!!!!!!!!!!!-!!!!!!!!!!!-!!!!!!!!!!!-!!!!!!!!!!!-!!!!!!!!!!!-!!!!!!!!!!!-!!!!!!!!!!!-!!!!!!!!!!!-!!!!!!!!!!!-!!!!!!!!!!!-!!!!!!!!!!!"

Why should all muslims be held accountable for the actions of this one person? Should all Christians be held accountable for the one lunatic who goes and shoots an abortion doctor? Surely you can see that your request is completely ridiculous.

 

[Skillganon]

Why should all muslims be held accountable for the actions of this one person? Should all Christians be held accountable for the one lunatic who goes and shoots an abortion doctor? Surely you can see that your request is completely ridiculous.

Lynden, This is not aimed at you, but Just wan't to carry on, WHY DO SOME CHRISTIAN (e.g criag winn) LIE AND FEED FALSEHOOD, DECIEVE?

Is this the way Jesus(pbuh) thought you to live, attack what you hate? anyhow you can.

 

[ServantofTheOne]

its called PR people... it makes a story, the book gets exposure, more dollars in this jokester's pocket.

'The Jealous Muslim Group' is a tell tale sign that its a cheap hoax to get people like BigChrisFilm to continue to propogate the hoax.

truth smashes falsehood.

no matter what smear campaign, what books, what cartoons the haters of islam puts out... ISLAM continues to grow. PEOPLE are able to determine truth from falsehood if they are sincere.

the only people who swallow the nonsense are those who already have the seed of hate planted in their heart.

 

[Skillganon]

its called PR people... it makes a story, the book gets exposure, more dollars in this jokester's pocket.

'The Jealous Muslim Group' is a tell tale sign that its a cheap hoax to get people like BigChrisFilm to continue to propogate the hoax.

truth smashes falsehood.

no matter what smear campaign, what books, what cartoons the haters of islam puts out... ISLAM continues to grow. PEOPLE are able to determine truth from falsehood if they are sincere.

the only people who swallow the nonsense are those who already have the seed of hate planted in their heart.

Does BigChris qualify? I sometime wonder!

 

[ServantofTheOne]

Lynden, This is not aimed at you, but Just wan't to carry on, WHY DO SOME CHRISTIAN (e.g criag winn) LIE AND FEED FALSEHOOD, DECIEVE?

Is this the way Jesus(pbuh) thought you to live, attack what you hate? anyhow you can.

thou shalt not lie is in the OT.

according to some of them, they are absolved of the laws, because they are in a state of grace.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Lynden, This is not aimed at you, but Just wan't to carry on, WHY DO SOME CHRISTIAN (e.g criag winn) LIE AND FEED FALSEHOOD, DECIEVE?

Is this the way Jesus(pbuh) thought you to live, attack what you hate? anyhow you can.

Of course not!!!! Gehenna is not a place I myself want to visit.

Matt 23: 31 So that ye testify to yourselves, that ye are sons of them who did murder the prophets; 32 and ye--ye fill up the measure of your fathers. 33 `Serpents! brood of vipers! how may ye escape from the judgment of the gehenna?

(Young) Revelation 14:11 and the smoke of their torment doth go up to ages of ages; and they have no rest day and night, who are bowing before the beast and his image, also if any doth receive the mark of his name.

 

[Skillganon]

thou shalt not lie is in the OT.

according to some of them, they are absolved of the laws, because they are in a state of grace.

Do You mean disgrace?

 

[PaladinValer]

To all the non-Christians here, especially to those Muslim posters, allow me to offer my apologies in the name of Christendom.

I assure you all that these who are wrongly bashing your religion, especially out of the truly more rediculous of illogical reasons and arguments, are not representative of my religion. I ask and beg of you to not think us all like them, just as I do not think all you like certain individuals who claim valid membership in your religions.

 

[Skillganon]

To all the non-Christians here, especially to those Muslim posters, allow me to offer my apologies in the name of Christendom.

I assure you all that these who are wrongly bashing your religion, especially out of the truly more rediculous of illogical reasons and arguments, are not representative of my religion. I ask and beg of you to not think us all like them, just as I do not think all you like certain individuals who claim valid membership in your religions.

You do not have the right to apologise for someone else action, or for behalf of christendom, christendom, did not tell those christian to lie, decieve and use falsehood. It's those people who know the truth and cover it up are the one to blame. All youi can say if you know is this is not Christainity!

You know the verse in the bible it say's,
"Many will say to me, Lord! Lord! have we not prophesied in you name, worked many miracle in you name, what did Jesus say? Get away from me I know you not!"

This is directed at christian, not Hindu's, Jew's, Muslims, or Bahai's.

Peace!

 

[PaladinValer]

True, I cannot speak officially for those who are doing here what wrongs they are doing (I do have a right to do it though), but I do believe in diplomacy and, due to my Christian believe in the Communion of Saints, I am responsible for my brother and my sister, just as Cain is his brother's keeper.

 

[Skillganon]

True, I cannot speak officially for those who are doing here what wrongs they are doing (I do have a right to do it though), but I do believe in diplomacy and, due to my Christian believe in the Communion of Saints, I am responsible for my brother and my sister, just as Cain is his brother's keeper.

Your apology is accepted, all though it was not needed, but you shall know that it is not us you shall ask forgiveness from, but the creator of heaven and earth, the God of Abraham, Moses, Jesus(pubt) e.t.c

 

[BigChrisfilm]

Hi BigChrisfilm, the problem is that you quoted some people who claimed to be Muslims and than demanded that the Muslims here explain themselves for what these people said. Perhaps you didn't mean it, but your wording implied that you were judging all Muslims into the same catergory as those who you quoted. It would be the equivalent of some Christian cursing me and then me demanding that all the Christians who post here explain themselves for it. Try not to judge people because of what a few, who claim to have the same beliefs, say.

I'm sure that you don't mean to offend but the very fact that you posted these quotes with the implications that these are standard muslims opinions is greatly insulting. You should take a little more care and consideration with what you imply.

All the best for today,

Daniel Oak.

The purpose of my post was not to demand that you defend yourselves, but rather, ask the question, should you have to defend yourselves, hence why there is a question mark.

 

[BigChrisfilm]

Jealous muslims group,I have never laughed so much in my life.What doo muslim have to be Jealous of ? Christianity? What does christianity have to offer that is better than islam?
What A Joke? This must have neen made up by Criag and his cons and liars.
Peace
Yaqovzadeek
Aka James the Just

Well he said that he changed there name, they didn't actually write Jealous muslim group, lol.

 

[PaladinValer]

BigChrisFilm, are you serious? Read the title of your thread. You asked them to defend themselves and that has been the tone of your posts throughout this thread.

You cannot renig now.