No space = no vacuum.Nothing = vacuum
something = atomic particles
Matter/energy flits into our universe all of the time without cause. Neutrons tunnel out of the nucleus for no cause other than it is possible for them to do so.
If things can be uncaused, and matter/energy can be suddenly created without cause, then where exactly are the problems for an uncaused universe?
My existence demands it because... ''From nothing, nothing, comes, since nothing is nothing it can do nothing therefore it can cause nothing hence whatever began to exist needs a cause for its existence.'' (Dr Phil Fernandes) That cause, I believe, is God.
FoeHammer.
You're not getting the relation. If WWI happened before WWII, the "before" implies that time existed at both points and can be expressed on a timeline. "Before" means that time had to have existed at the moment of the first event. There can be no "before time" because that means that the first event happened when time did not yet exist, contradicting the bolded statement. If you know easy math, read the next sentence. Asking what's "before time" is like asking what x is equal to when: -1=|x|C, as in Cat.
Of course there is no letter before A in the alphabet but there was intelligence before the alphabet. I believe God was before time and that time is a consequence of His creation of the heaven and the earth.
FoeHammer.
So again, which letter comes before A? Answer with letters only.
WWI and WWII were events within time and therefore subject to time. I believe that God exists, infinite, not an event and not subject to time.You're not getting the relation. If WWI happened before WWII, the "before" implies that time existed at both points and can be expressed on a timeline. "Before" means that time had to have existed at the moment of the first event. There can be no "before time" because that means that the first event happened when time did not yet exist, contradicting the bolded statement. If you know easy math, read the next sentence. Asking what's "before time" is like asking what x is equal to when: -1=|x|
This is like your letter analogy. Which letter is before A? Answer in terms of letters only. "Intelligence" is not a letter, and therefore, not an applicable answer.
So again, which letter comes before A? Answer with letters only.
WWI and WWII were events within time and therefore subject to time. I believe that God exists, infinite, not an event and not subject to time.
FoeHammer.
WWI and WWII were events within time and therefore subject to time. I believe that God exists, infinite, not an event and not subject to time.
FoeHammer.
It does not follow from any of the above that there could exist a "before time", or that anything outside of time can be causally related to it.
God existed, He created the universe, space, matter, energy, time, God was before time. My seven year old grandson can grasp this so why can't you?
FoeHammer.
God existed, He created the universe, space, matter, energy, time, God was before time.
My seven year old grandson can grasp this so why can't you?
FoeHammer.
I bet he grasps the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus too, eh?God existed, He created the universe, space, matter, energy, time, God was before time. My seven year old grandson can grasp this so why can't you?
FoeHammer.
WWI and WWII were events within time and therefore subject to time. I believe that God exists, infinite, not an event and not subject to time.
FoeHammer.
Okay, so what letter is before A?God existed, He created the universe, space, matter, energy, time, God was before time. My seven year old grandson can grasp this so why can't you?
FoeHammer.
Okay, so what letter is before A?
What does x equal in the following equation:
-1 = |x|
What negative number is greater than 0?
What online website created the internet?
How can you roll two normal, six-sided dice and get a total of one?
What color is darker than pure black (total absence of light)?
If you can give me an answer to any of these questions, then I will believe that something can occur "before time."
Alef one! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleph_numberOoooh! How about, which number is greater than infinity? Does that one work?
That one. Well, not really, but it's really, really large.Ooooh! How about, which number is greater than infinity? Does that one work?
Perhaps you ought to study the definition of the word before, it is not always in relation to time.Probably because I've studied logic.....
Perhaps you ought to study the definition of the word before, it is not always in relation to time.
FoeHammer.
How much do you wanna bet?I bet he grasps the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus too, eh?
My position is clear to the theist, the atheist, as ever, is in denial.Has FoeHammer clarified how you can have something existing before time, yet? Or has he just carried on insisting that he believes it's possible?
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