Three days and three nights in heart of earth?

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Three Days & Three Nights in the heart of the earth

Scripture for each Point in the chart. Lamb was killed at the going down of the sun on Nisan 14(Deut 16:1,6; Mark 14:12-18) after it was killed they ate, then sung hymns and went to the garden that night, then arrested at midnight, then three illegal trials, then Legal one in the morning after that night before Sanhedrin court, then three legal trials the next night, delivered to be crucified during the day and dying at the ninth hour of that day. All of which checks out with scirpture and astronomical Records.

I don't care about someone's "chart". They went to the garden early on the 14th, after the last supper, where He was arrested. By the morning of the 14th, He had been convicted and on His way to the crucifixion. He died at 3 PM when the lambs were being killed (you do understand there were 1000s of lambs to be killed so they could not all be killed at sunset). He was in the tomb before sunset on the 14th. The 15th was the Sabbath and the 1st day of ULB. He rose after sunset early on the 16th, Yom HaBikkurim.

 

[StephenDiscipleofYHWH]

I don't care about someone's "chart". They went to the garden early on the 14th, after the last supper, where He was arrested. By the morning of the 14th, He had been convicted and on His way to the crucifixion. He died at 3 PM when the lambs were being killed (you do understand there were 1000s of lambs to be killed so they could not all be killed at sunset). He was in the tomb before sunset on the 14th. The 15th was the Sabbath and the 1st day of ULB. He rose after sunset early on the 16th, Yom HaBikkurim.

For each point there is scripture on the Chart showing the truth, and much more than that is written. The went the Chart on night following the 14th as Moses was commanded to write that the Lambs were to be killed at the going down of the sun(Deut 16:1,6; Mark 14:12-18) which we see in Marks account. It was just getting to be morning when the Sanhedrin came back to meet again during the very beginning of the day thursday(Luke 22:66) this lasted until finally he was brought during the night(night of the 16th) to see Pilate(John 18:28, 19:13,14), then Herod(Luke 23:6,7), then Pilate again(Luke 23:8,11) after this he was delivered to be crucified during the morning(now being the 16th during the day), then he died at the ninth hour of that day(Mark 15:33-37) on the 16th. All of this is shown within God's word.

 

[klutedavid]

I am not, he rose Sunday morning immediately after/right at when the 72 hours had been completed.

The first legal trial started in first hour of the morning thrusday, Christ rose in the first hour of Sunday morning. Full seventy two hours later(three days and three nights).

You still do not understand what your saying.

If Christ is in the heart of the earth for 72 hours, then that means, that the Christ rose after that 72 hour time duration (after three days and nights).

Your definitely promoting a fourth day resurrection of the Christ.

We know for a fact that the Christ rose on the third day and not after the third day.

Luke 24:20-21
And how the chief priests and our rulers delivered Him to the sentence of death, and crucified Him. But we were hoping that it was He who was going to redeem Israel. Indeed, besides all this, it is the third day since these things happened.... 31 Then their eyes were opened and they recognized Him; and He vanished from their sight.

 

[StephenDiscipleofYHWH]

You still do not understand what your saying.

If Christ is in the heart of the earth for 72 hours, then that means, that the Christ rose after that 72 hour time duration (after three days and nights).

Your definitely promoting a fourth day resurrection of the Christ.

We know for a fact that the Christ rose on the third day and not after the third day.

Luke 24:20-21
And how the chief priests and our rulers delivered Him to the sentence of death, and crucified Him. But we were hoping that it was He who was going to redeem Israel. Indeed, besides all this, it is the third day since these things happened.... 31 Then their eyes were opened and they recognized Him; and He vanished from their sight.

He rose at the last second of the Last hour(or sometime near that), not after the 72 but right at/near it's completion on/within the third day time period. On sunday Morning.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

For each point there is scripture on the Chart showing the truth, and much more than that is written. The went the Chart on night following the 14th as Moses was commanded to write that the Lambs were to be killed at the going down of the sun(Deut 16:1,6; Mark 14:12-18) which we see in Marks account. It was just getting to be morning when the Sanhedrin came back to meet again during the very beginning of the day thursday(Luke 22:66) this lasted until finally he was brought during the night(night of the 16th) to see Pilate(John 18:28, 19:13,14), then Herod(Luke 23:6,7), then Pilate again(Luke 23:8,11) after this he was delivered to be crucified during the morning(now being the 16th during the day), then he died at the ninth hour of that day(Mark 15:33-37) on the 16th. All of this is shown within God's word.

That is impossible!!! The 15th is the 1st of ULB...do you not understand that??? The lambs were killed on the 14th...do you not understand that? This is a waste of time since you obviously know nothing regarding Pesakh.

 

[StephenDiscipleofYHWH]

That is impossible!!! The 15th is the 1st of ULB...do you not understand that??? The lambs were killed on the 14th...do you not understand that? This is a waste of time since you obviously know nothing regarding Pesakh.

The word God written in Deuteronomy, exodus, Leviticus(and many other places) all say that they were killed towards sundown on the 14th. We see the Passover Lambs killed in the right before the going down of the sun and Christ going to eat the Passover with them that coming night(the 15th) Mark 14:12-16. It was only after they had eaten that night of the 15th, and after they had prayed and sung hymns that he was arrested at midnight(of the 15th). All of this is shown in the word of God and all of this I have said before. He did not die until the 16th during the day at the ninth hour.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

The word God written in Deuteronomy, exodus, Leviticus(and many other places) all say that they were killed towards sundown on the 14th. We see the Passover Lambs killed in the right before the going down of the sun and Christ going to eat the Passover with them that coming night(the 15th) Mark 14:12-16. It was only after they had eaten that night of the 15th, and after they had prayed and sung hymns that he was arrested at midnight(of the 15th). All of this is shown in the word of God and all of this I have said before. He did not die until the 16th during the day at the ninth hour.

So in your timeline, He did not fulfill Passover or Yom HaBikkurim...yeah...right. The last supper was NOT a Passover meal because the lambs were not sacrificed yet. It was a Pesakh Seudah HaMefsekhet...a final meal before the fast of the firstborn on the 14th. BTW, read John sometime...

 

[StephenDiscipleofYHWH]

So in your timeline, He did not fulfill Passover or Yom HaBikkurim...yeah...right. The last supper was NOT a Passover meal because the lambs were not sacrificed yet. It was a Pesakh Seudah HaMefsekhet...a final meal before the fast of the firstborn on the 14th. BTW, read John sometime...

Lambs sacrificed-Mark 14:12-16
Passover made ready to eat-Luke 22:12-14

Sorry it seems the word of God disagrees with you brother

 

[DennisTate]

Interesting. I have been trying to do the math on this for years, and thought he had to be crucified on Thursday, but you may be right!

I so thank you for your post......
I do know that the time is coming when knowing about this will be quite important.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Lambs sacrificed-Mark 14:12-16
Passover made ready to eat-Luke 22:12-14

Sorry it seems the word of God disagrees with you brother

John 18:28 says it was BEFORE Passover. Read John 19:31, it was on the 14th when He was crucified. The 15th was the Sabbath. John 20:1 says it was on Sunday that He raised, the 16th. Lambs are NEVER sacrificed on the 15th. You do not understand how any of this works...

 

[StephenDiscipleofYHWH]

John 18:28 says it was BEFORE Passover. Read John 19:31, it was on the 14th when He was crucified. The 15th was the Sabbath. John 20:1 says it was on Sunday that He raised, the 16th. Lambs are NEVER sacrificed on the 15th. You do not understand how any of this works...

Read Mark and Luke it says that the Lambs for Passover were killed on the 14th as was commanded by Moses and God, not the 15th as you keep claiming I am saying. 15th was thrusday the day of his illegal and first legal trials, then firday night the three more legal trials, friday crucifixion. All checks out with scirputre.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Read Mark and Luke it says that the Lambs for Passover were killed on the 14th as was commanded by Moses and God, not the 15th as you keep claiming I am saying. 15th was thrusday the day of his illegal and first legal trials, then firday night the three more legal trials, friday crucifixion. All checks out with scirputre.

The 1st of ULB is the 15th so there could not be a Jewish trial. The 14th was when the lambs were killed. The day begins at sunset. So you are saying the lambs died on the 14th, Yeshua ate the Passover at the beginning of the 15th and yet He was not killed until the 16th? It specifically says He died on the same day as the morning trial (on the 14th). You are wrong...

You wrote:
The word God written in Deuteronomy, exodus, Leviticus(and many other places) all say that they were killed towards sundown on the 14th. We see the Passover Lambs killed in the right before the going down of the sun and Christ going to eat the Passover with them that coming night(the 15th) Mark 14:12-16. It was only after they had eaten that night of the 15th, and after they had prayed and sung hymns that he was arrested at midnight(of the 15th). All of this is shown in the word of God and all of this I have said before. He did not die until the 16th during the day at the ninth hour.

 

[Bob Carabbio]

For the record...... because the Gentile Christian church became anti-Semitic and astoundingly ignorant of the fact that the early church was Jewish......... we lost track of the fact that the annual Sabbath of the First Day of Unleavened Bread can occur on a Thursday.........
making for a Wednesday crucifixion........

Exactly!!! but in the interest of compressing things conveniently into one weekend, instead of spreading it out with the consequent disruption of the work week, the Visible church invented the "any portion of a day is a whole day" foolishness - to force it to fit into a more "practical" time slot.

 

[Der Alte]

Exactly!!! but in the interest of compressing things conveniently into one weekend, instead of spreading it out with the consequent disruption of the work week, the Visible church invented the "any portion of a day is a whole day" foolishness - to force it to fit into a more "practical" time slot.

You are misinformed. The first time I heard that several years ago I looked it up. Where better than the Jewish Encyclopedia.

Jewish Encyclopedia-Day
In the Bible, the season of light (Gen. i. 5), lasting "from dawn [lit. "the rising of the morning"] to the coming forth of the stars" (Neh. iv. 15, 17). The term "day" is used also to denote a period of twenty-four hours (Ex. xxi. 21). In Jewish communal life part of a day is at times reckoned as one day; e.g., the day of the funeral, even when the latter takes place late in the afternoon, is counted as the first of the seven days of mourning; a short time in the morning of the seventh day is counted as the seventh day; circumcision takes place on the eighth day, even though of the first day only a few minutes remained after the birth of the child, these being counted as one day. Again, a man who hears of a vow made by his wife or his daughter, and desires to cancel the vow, must do so on the same day on which he hears of it, as otherwise the protest has no effect; even if the hearing takes place a little time before night, the annulment must be done within that little time. The day is reckoned from evening to evening—i.e., night and day—except in reference to sacrifices, where daytime and the night following constitute one day (Lev. vii. 15; see Calendar). "The day" denotes: (a) Day of the Lord; (b) the Day of Atonement; (c) the treatise of the Mishnah that contains the laws concerning the Day of Atonement (See Yoma and Sabbath).E. G. H. M. F.
Jewish Encyclopedia online​

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Exactly!!! but in the interest of compressing things conveniently into one weekend, instead of spreading it out with the consequent disruption of the work week, the Visible church invented the "any portion of a day is a whole day" foolishness - to force it to fit into a more "practical" time slot.

It is a Jewish thing, not a gentile thing...

 

[Bob Carabbio]

You are misinformed.

ONE of us is, fer sure, fer sure.

 

[His student]

Fortunately no one's salvation depends on understanding the fulfilled types found in the passages in the book of Exodus and Leviticus 23.

The Lord certainly could have written the N.T. in such a way that there can be no doubt as to the timing of the fulfillment. But I believe this situation is much like other more important doctrines in the scriptures including a proper understanding of salvation itself. I.e., particularly when it comes to salvation, the Lord has given some people enough information to hang themselves if they are so inclined. The reason is so that those who are approved will become evident and those who are not will also become evident.

I often wish that He had not seen fit to do this kind of thing - particularly when I get into a debate about salvation by grace vs. salvation by works.

But I believe that anyone willing to study the O.T. picture of the events from the selection of the lambs on what the Jews call the "Great Sabbath" of the 10th of Nissan, to the open show of Pharaoh at dawn of the 18th on the other side of the Red Sea will be able to understand how the N.T. scriptures align.

Yes - there will be many difficulties to overcome in understanding it all even some compromises of long held beliefs such as the timing and the rituals of the Last Supper.

But the best overall "systematic" understanding of this subject overwhelmingly supports a Palm Saturday entrance into Jerusalem, a Wednesday crucifixion, a resurrection exactly at the change over of the 17th and 18th of Nissan, and an open show of Satan and his minions at dawn on Sunday morning when Christ ascended.

Obviously I can't write an entire book here and explain how all of the events align. But anyone wanting to really study the subject will in all likelihood come to the correct conclusions - even as they, like me, wish the Lord had not given us such a difficult theological test in this particular area.

I anticipate the cries of outrage (particularly from those most steeped in church tradition) at my insinuation that they have not really studied the subject through.

Sorry to offend. But that is simply my take on the subject.

 

[Der Alte]

ONE of us is, fer sure, fer sure.

So far, I'm the only one who has provided credible, verifiable, historical etc. evidence. And I don't consider the writings of anonymous people online credible evidence.

 

[Der Alte]

...
But I believe that anyone willing to study the O.T. picture of the events from the selection of the lambs on what the Jews call the "Great Sabbath" of the 10th of Nissan, to the open show of Pharaoh at dawn of the 18th on the other side of the Red Sea will be able to understand how the N.T. scriptures align....

Where do the Jews call the 10th of Nissan a "Great Sabbath?"

 

[prodromos]

But the best overall "systematic" understanding of this subject overwhelmingly supports a Palm Saturday entrance into Jerusalem

Thus you have Christ break the commandments.

Exodus 23:12

Riding a donkey was strictly forbidden on the Sabbath