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In the beginning God created an end, but just like the first heaven and earth, the end the first duality lead to an Ishmael (God laboring to bring forth), which pattern can be seen in Sari (and Hagar) and her words (to Abram whom her wrong was upon) when she became the despised, or her nakedness was revealed or as one who is desolate) that the LORD judge between me and thee (which is division between soul and spirit).
 
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Abraham’s inheritance came to him in the form of a son (as did Jesus’), but it did not become the son that he was to him in relationship to God (as it did to Jesus). It is the same truth that played out in Adam to the dividing of this inheritance of son, by the perception of being separated from God.
 
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neither shall we remember evil. it will be so swallowed up in love that it will be known only in the fullness of the love that has always been. what profound love it is for a man to die out of love for God and the world. the perfect death of a martyr, even of the physical death, is no small thing in the eyes of God. what a blessing it is for one to be so single minded so as to never even eat of the devils temptations telling you to flee away from the pain. if only the torturer could see that which they do to themselves! so many have died out of love for him in so many ways. the saints had never stopped being saints, they kept on in the afterlife as they did in worldly life, but more so.
 
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Mediate on the word until you live in it, until it becomes the way that you think; for he frees us from it that we might live in it.

The word doubt (when given life/power) will always turn the word possible into impossible .... it will always turn the word can into cannot .... when all doubt is removed and finally put in the grave where it belongs, where it no longer has any power .... all things not only "become" possible ... ALL THINGS "ARE" POSSIBLE ....

doubt can bury the light (for a time) but it cannot and will not destroy it

doubt is the power of darkness
 
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""I do not say that John or Jonathan, that this generation or the next, will realize all this; but such is the character of that morrow which mere lapse of time can never make to dawn. The light which puts out our eyes is darkness to us. Only that day dawns to which we are awake. There is more day to dawn. The sun is but a morning star."" ~end of the book "walden" by Henry David Thoreau

I wish the children would always play in my heart but it seems like they wander off somewhere sometimes.
 
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Things are not an argument to me, or more precisely beyond good and evil, I don’t think on terms that are bound by the process of time (which is more akin to wandering in a field, a pattern throughout scripture, which Christ for me brought an end of in me (if that makes sense) to speak to earthly pictures such as can be seen in Jesus' cursing of a fig tree (that no one would eat of it anymore) as if it should have had fruit before it’s time) tracing this truth (in scripture) back to the first mentioning of a fig tree in relationship to a son not accepted and how he became this in his own eyes, or in the day (6th) he ate) who kept the fig tree (his soul) and ate the fruit thereof … The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat). We are still bound by the letter of the word as much as they were bound by the law Moses. It is what our soul does to us because we refuse to lose it or become desolate, or one without a husband. (We live in the small moment that God hid his face from us which process is confined to; which is why he is revealed in the moment as something always present to us in as much as this is the picture of a city that comes down from God out of heaven as one already prepared as a bride for her husband, which reflects spirit and soul).

I am born of her who is free and therefore my thoughts are boundless on all matters, which the medium of words are insufficient to clarify, so everything is seed to me, the one I am and the one I sow.

Jesus brought an end to the Jews religion (the serpent that swallowed all the other serpents) which Christianity is the feminine of), by being the lamb that was without spot or wrinkle, who became the serpent on a pole in a Jerusalem as it had happened in the first garden,( but the second man was the last man a light that leads us back to where we come from (which is just one of myriads of ways to see truth from (starting in Genesis with the mother of all living or a soul deceived which births a divided inheritance of self, or the truth that we are), which is how it relates to the truth each of us are as a son). Jerusalem is the same, a picture of something that relates to the soul, it is a city, no different than any other city (such as Damascus, Nineveh, or Samaria), or kingdom, soul or mountain, they are reflective as something that relates to the process in us) it is the apple of the eye or what is in the midst of the man, and from one place in the midst of the sea due to the image an Ishmael or man that tills the ground became to the living soul we became by the breathe of God we are. It is not limited to this …

Truth is everything and is the sum of the whole, it is not linear, it is the process of the revealing of him as the one who is all in all only found in the moment beyond good and evil.
 
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God is perpetual.

But to have a beginning out of necessity to define it there must be a past (as in the pattern of light being called out of darkness), likewise to have a new beginning necessitates that this to must have had a past that defines it.

These are differences between spirit and soul in relationship to coming to the knowledge of God (which is not separate from self).
 
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"Jerusalem is the same, a picture of something that relates to the soul, it is a city, no different than any other city (such as Damascus, Nineveh, or Samaria), or kingdom, soul or mountain, they are reflective as something that relates to the process in us) it is the apple of the eye or what is in the midst of the man, and from one place in the midst of the sea due to the image an Ishmael or man that tills the ground became to the living soul we became by the breathe of God we are. It is not limited to this …

Truth is everything and is the sum of the whole, it is not linear, it is the process of the revealing of him as the one who is all in all only found in the moment beyond good and evil". Gen:1:3 ?

Jerusalem = Obstacles to overcome ? The term reflect , used in Post 1010 in connection of the song .

One finds he has been shown wisdom ^_^ in suggesting reflect . In a good way . This thread and that term is antithesis in "moment of light" and it is seen and wisdom that uses Eph: 3:19 was the reply for this vessel to hear if he listens :oldthumbsup: . Others too if they hear.

As creeks meld from two to one that connects to another one and forms a stream that melds from two to one that connects to another one and forms a river that melds....
 
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I love how Isaac’s wife causes Jacob to steal the blessing and sends him back to Abraham’s Fathers house where Jacob’s wages are changed ten times, she doing to her son what in picture form was the bracelets ten shekels given to her by Abraham’s servant as it was to Abraham who Sari after being ten years in the land (and all the things that happened to bring him to this point as it is the same with Adam and Eve as it is for Jacob) gives to Abraham Hagar to fulfill the promise through labor, which is the fruit of the woman, and as a first out of the womb (even though the laws of God sates that first born is his which can be seen from both sides of the pillar of fire (so to speak).

A short looking at, in the Bible of the word ten shows how well the law is tied in with perception.
 
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Yeah Matt:16:18 was starting to translate like that weather it be to self or others. Gates of hell somewhat translate a little further than lips and or tongue but actions too.

And for a spirit of judgment to him that sitteth in judgment, and for strength to them that turn the battle to the gate.
 
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