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God has given me much music that has helped me through times of struggle and weakness. the sword of the spirit cuts both ways. we may stumble over Christ or we may walk with him. I have never listened to someone else sing this song, I will check it out.

good song ofc. :)

Many people have done that song. Its very popular. Everyone does their own version of it. I think alot of people experience it personally. THis guy here is not a recording artist that i know of, but he sure can play. Check him out, hes skilled. I wish i could play like him, but i cant, not even close.


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A reply to someone’s statement/question of “So there is a difference between the son of man and the son of God”

There is for the sake of process.

Here’s a tug on the thread of the seamless garment …

The seed and the image are the same truth. Isaac had an Esau, Abraham had Ishmael, Adam had Cain, and God had Adam (though there is a lot to this (and by no stretch of the imagination held to these four), it speaks to the pattern of the elder that serves the younger, though as one goes along they find that they serve each other to the same end, being about a truth in us of inheritance divided which without nothing would have happened and extends itself from the words let there be light). Remember Peter was an adversary in Jesus’’ mind just as much as the adversary that was in his mind in the wilderness, which the wilderness depicted where was or where the spirit drove him (from a garden) by the words This is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased, which words became an adversary to Jesus, to try him. (Jesus never entered into a second forty (which is most prevalent in picture concerning Moses and Israel, Moses came down a 2nd time, Israel turned back to the wilderness (which is where God lead them) It is the pattern found in the first garden that repeats itself over and over throughout the entirety of the Bible (even in such things as why the creation story repeats itself, or why there are two dialogues of how they wandered the wilderness (which respectively speak to the masculine and the feminine which also deals with process). The Bible is not the truth we are, but the Bible leads us to who we are, through process, and the desired end of God in us as us.

Job had three friends, Abram had three men, Noah three sons, the third from Adam (on Cain’s side is Enoch, who becomes a picture of the truth cast down tabernacle-d (a city named Enoch, just as Joshua deals with a city named Adam (Ai) to name a few. These depict the process/reasoning of the soul of coming to a truth. I say that to say Job’s perception given to him by the second (Pentecost) of his three friends is that the son of man is a worm (a portion of Job’s perception of himself, an inheritance divided, both righteous and unrighteous, or fruit of a tree (eats dust) which is a derivative of the tree of knowledge, as where if one eats of it in their own day or light of their soul they return to the dust (remembering that man at the beginning was pictured as a living soul, and not a quickening spirit (though Adam being the son of God always was).

Jesus kept the first commandment and by this made the two one in himself, one inheritance which is the equivalent of God (Abram’s exceeding and great reward, that God began to show or speak to him of by son). The son of man is the son of God, even though it is in dust the seed that is God/Christ is planted in, in the form of consciousness (which is both Sub, and consciousness).
 
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The more i see with the spiritual eye the less i see around me
THe less i see around me the more i see only me.
THe more i see only me the more i see that i do not see
To see or not to see, that is the question.
What are ears for if not to hear?
What are eyes for if not to see?
To walk by the spirit or the flesh, that is the answer.
To walk in the spirit is a glorious thing
To our eyes understanding it will surely bring
This is the voice of the eternal king
To our ears it will surely sing,
This world is quickly passing away
Behold the kingdom above, the dawn of a new day
I do not see as i should, nor do i hear
One thing i know however, the end draws near
Seek those things which are above
In the heavens where there is hope, faith and love
 
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Many people have done that song. Its very popular. Everyone does their own version of it. I think alot of people experience it personally. THis guy here is not a recording artist that i know of, but he sure can play. Check him out, hes skilled. I wish i could play like him, but i cant, not even close.

yeah he's pretty cool. had a friend that showed me him a few years ago. if we could all play like him then everything would not be as special as they otherwise would be.
 
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yeah he's pretty cool. had a friend that showed me him a few years ago. if we could all play like him then everything would not be as special as they otherwise would be.

Thats true, but my skills are pretty bad, i could use a little of his anyway. :)
 
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(A regurgitation of thought/whole Bible studying stuff) The Bible is full of patterns that relate to the process that line upon line make elusive to us because we pursue them as if we do not already have them (in respect to knowledge that leads one to the understanding of self). When we find one, we must let it go, and not keep it over a day or it becomes something that is filled with worms (Job's perception of the son of man before he was turned from what he heard). Abraham's first woman/soul was not his own, she ruled over him and is every bit the picture of the city of Babylon (or Sodom (not Gomorrah) Egypt (whom Joseph impregnated) or the earthly Jerusalem/soul where truth is crucified through reason) as was her labor by thought to produce the promise (Hagar) that in the end only served to mock the truth of an inheritance that Abraham could relate to, a son, an heir of Abram (high Father). This was in picture Adam as he related to God (though of perception only, God only has one son, which is relative to every individual as the truth of self that he alone can reveal in one). Abraham becomes a Father of a multitude when Sari becomes his wife (Sarah), or they become one, having through the process of time come to the end of their ability to produce the promise (or in the wilderness, all the men/thoughts of warfare die out before they possess the land/soul which reflects the same truth as to where the spirit leads us into concerning self. It's hard to write fifty things at once. Things like this keep growing in ways that constantly branch out in other ways which do the same, much like a universe being birthed in a moment. Before long it becomes impossible to relate it without re-writing, or arranging the Bible into the form you currently see it in, which keeps changing by not changing (if that makes sense).

(Forgive me, but a little more) Understanding the language of God as to its implications of the process in us is paramount. The woman in scripture represents soul, which is inclusive of wisdom, knowledge and understanding, one who prepares the feast, or the table, the one who births the truth, etc. (or a lie as the case maybe/God’s day begins in the night, so the pattern of the elder and the younger speak to this same truth as does the darkness light is called out of), she is apple of God’s eye, her children/thoughts Jesus spoke of gathering together unto himself. She is the first helpmeet, she is a garden not enclosed as this which was unto the revealing of our nakedness (which was not out of order). The second helpmeet is masculine … when He is come He will lead you. In comparative, Jesus spoke from or as soul at times and at other times spoke as spirit. The soul of Jesus said there is none good but God, which depicts his soul much like Ruth is depicted at the foot of Boaz (but this is in the confines of his own being). Paul speaks of those who are joined unto the Lord (a feminine perspective) as one spirit, not two that are one, one which sheds light on the city/soul found whose perception is that there is no need for a temple, or for sun and moon (father and mother … see Jacob’s interpretation of Joseph’s dream) to produce a promise. Outside of this truth of a soul found and entered into is everything that works and makes a lie (in relationship to self as who we have come out of God as) though everyone outside of this reality of perception is beckoned by the spirit and the bride (Masculine/feminine as one) to come (which from here it trickles down to lesser feasts. When something comes out of something it is feminine in relationship to what it has come out of. Masculine and feminine depict truths that their genders in the natural speak to the spirit of. Having come out of God, Adam was a living soul, but he is also the earthly image/seed/man as is the firstborn where you see Sari as one who rules over Abram and by this produces the mentality of Egypt/flesh which runs its course with Joseph who Israel remains in her (Egypt) until she has fulfilled her 144,000 days. The son that comes out becomes dual in the wilderness and through the process of time begins the second forty as did Adam and Eve, or Noah (whose nakedness is revealed, or Nebuchadnezzar whose seven years brought about by his perception of the dream Daniel interprets that speaks to the masculine of this same one truth, though it be seemingly divided) and the sons birthed by the choice to eat of their own reasoning, the inheritance speaking to us as the sum of who we are as the offspring of God. On another note (but not another) 8 is one of two keys, 7 the other, they are one of many forms of the keys of David, who was both the seventh and the eighth son of Jesus as much as Enoch was both the seventh and eighth from Adam. We must remember that the book of Revelation is a scroll that opens in us in relationship to the truth that we are, and reveals the process of it along with the feasts (three speaking to the feminine, the sevens speaking to the masculine as did Job’s children who combined became the law of life, which is the law of thy mother/soul whose daughters were most beautiful and received an inheritance among the sons) in all this for Job, he does not receive a new wife/soul, but a new perception of the truth of self via a garden/soul enclosed, which is God’s beloved. Things appear to us as what they are from where we are seeing at in the moment, which moment is eternal in its substance, or in one form bottomless, and in another an ascending forever. Creation is as much the language of God as the Bible is, or even every book ever written is. It is the one who prepares the table we eat of that changes what things are to us as we receive them. Even darkness becomes light before us. As a child of the most high, we are as him, light and darkness becomes the same to us.
 
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In a very deep way (in the form of reasoning/knowledge) the salvation has been preached from the beginning of the creation as the one it came out of, hid as it were in plain sight. It can be found in everything, and like the Bible it takes the eye that is whole or single to see the many different streams of the one river.

The river that comes into the garden is a narrative of reason that comes out of pleasure/eden.

To say our garden (which is relational to soul) is enclosed is the same as to say don’t eat of the one tree, being that the one tree is not outside of self (the two trees in order, as to the unending reflection of what they are in us), knowledge not being separate from life, which as the man and woman, spirit and soul, heaven and earth, etc. are the same one truth our soul divides.

For the lack of understanding what has always been ours we perish. It is a nakedness of soul.
 
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I was curious as to what an "Arcanist" might be.

Everything in google came up with "magic" in it.

"Arcanists are scholars of all things magical. They constantly seek out new forms of magic to discover how they work, and in many cases, to collect the energy of such magic for their own uses. Many arcanists are seen as reckless, more concerned with the potency of magic than the ramifications of unleashing such power."

Is this really what you espouse? If so, why post in a Christian forum where believers are taught to come away from that kind of thinking?
 
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Arcanist a noun of Arcane meaning: Mysterious, secret, known or understood only by initiates, those with special access to some knowledge.

Notes: This word is the adjective for arcanum (plural: arcana) "secret knowledge accessible only to members or initiates". This is the stuff of fraternal organizations like the Royal Arcanum, a venerable fraternal life insurance society. The adverb is arcanely and an arcanist is someone with secret information. So far the noun arcanity hasn't made the major dictionaries but it is floating around the Internet.

In Play: This is a good word for referring to rarities most people would not understand, such as arcane reading habits or, "Sarah's knowledge of arcane economic principles occasionally pays off." Play with it? Sure: "He is a man of such arcane knowledge that even he barely understands what he's thinking."

Word History: Today's word comes from the Latin adjective arcanus "shut up, closed" hence "secret". The adjective is based on arca "a chest, box, safe", a good place for secrets. Arca is also the origin of our word ark, as in the Ark of the Covenant, the chest containing the stones on which the Ten Commandments were carved. The Latin word may have been influenced by the old Hebrew word for "ark", aron, as in Aron Habrit "Ark of the Covenant". It is unrelated to arcade, which was derived from Latin arcus "arch".

One could refer to the person Paul spoke of as hearing things that they were unable to put into words as an arcanist.
 
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those upon the earth that look upon me see 666. those in the heavens see 777. but within myself I see that i am 888.

when you add 666 to 777 you get 1443 which can be understood as 144 and 3, both are numbers for completion. one upon the earth and the other in heaven. 144 is three digits. take note that when 4 is added to its twin of 4 that it makes 8. so 4 added to 4 is a union, which is what the 1 means. and so the 144 is the earthly symbol but the three digits point to the 3. now when you add 1, 4, 4, 3 you get 12, which points back down to the earth. or you can say the number 1443 is the completion in heaven and earth just as 666 and 777 describe when they are added together. seeing as how 12 was an important number - 12 tribes just as there are 144,000 virgins of those tribes. but it is the heavenly or new Jerusalem, not just the plain old earthly jerusalem but rather the heavenly and yet sojourning in the earth new jerusalem.

what will remain hidden is 888 and 13 (for obvious reasons). those who know, know or those who have have. those who do not have, even though they have, they shall even lose their only garment.

this only garment shall be sacrificed to the 13 as a sweet smelling aroma whilst she is weeping to the 888 and from this shall grow that which is natural for the creature - their own wool. this is a commandment even until the tenth generation and it shall not be defiled nor shall it go unobserved, says the Lord Jehovah. and thus shall it be forever and ever. amen.
 
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those upon the earth that look upon me see 666. those in the heavens see 777. but within myself I see that i am 888.

when you add 666 to 777 you get 1443 which can be understood as 144 and 3, both numbers for completion. one upon the earth and the other in heaven. 144 is the digits. take note that when 4 is added to its twin of 4 that it makes 8. so 4 added to 4 is a union, which is what the 1 means. and so the 144 is the earthly symbol but the three digits point to the 3. now when you add 1, 4, 4, 3 you get 12, which points back down to the earth. or you can say the number 1443 is the completion in heaven and earth just as 666 and 777 describe when they are added together.

I try not to let the poor eyesight of others judge me. Our hope is in the Lord. Amen brother.
 
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I try not to let the poor eyesight of others judge me. Our hope is in the Lord. Amen brother.

I find this to be good fun and yet I am serious in what i say, if i might properly word it right.

I used to think that witches were plotting against the Christians on the forums here. ahahahha ( but seriously, they are: for by their sorcery they lead the world astray. )
 
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"And the Lord said unto Moses, Go, get thee down; for thy people, which thou broughtest out of Egypt, have corrupted themselves."

God disassociates himself with his people even to the point of not having been the one who brought them out.

This verse speaks to the process of coming to the true nature of God that is hindered only by our own perception of him.

The symbolism (found in the language of God ) in the coming out of Egypt is found in everything, as the path one must take to the understanding of the motive of the one who brought you out, which process is found in each of us.

He calls every son out of Egypt.
Have you ever been to Egypt?
 
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I was thinking about how wild animals are in the wild. They are nervous, vicious and always seeking to survive. Yet when you put them with humans who love them, then they seem to learn from humans. They learn from that spirit of love and gentleness i guess. Then you see cats and dogs living together in harmony, even dogs and deer. I saw a video of a dog laying down with a deer and they were acting like brothers instead of hunter and predator.

Whats this have to do with anything? I dont know, it was just an observation i made and its interesting to me.
 
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Just some remedial thoughts (though (as a clause) much bigger than this) on the forties as seen in scripture (which the truths without us relate to us in this same manner) ...

Concerning nakedness and not ashamed, and naked and ashamed.

Here is Leviticus about the laws concerning giving birth... Then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, Speak to the children of Israel, saying: If a woman has conceived, and borne a male child, then she shall be unclean seven days; as in the days of her customary impurity she shall be unclean. And on the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised. She shall then continue in the blood of her purification thirty-three days. She shall not touch any hallowed thing, nor come into the sanctuary until the days of her purification are fulfilled. But if she bears a female child, then she shall be unclean two weeks, as in her customary impurity, and she shall continue in the blood of her purification sixty-six days. One week for a male child plus thirty three days to complete forty days of impurity. Or the introduction of the first forty being masculine. Two weeks for the female child!! Plus sixty six days to complete eighty days of impurity. Revealing the second forty as feminine. Let's now look at the various times of forty days and forty years and see a whole new revealing (at least to me) before us. Moses goes up to Mount Sinai during the whole ten commandments thing and fasts forty days and forty nights. As we all know the children of Israel corrupted themselves rebelled against God because of the golden calf and Moses has to come down and bring order to the camp. If one reads the account in Exodus, Moses destroys the golden calf and the Levite's go into the midst of Israel and kill three thousand of their brethren. If one reads the Deuteronomy account Moses comes down from the Mount breaks the two stones and falls down and fasts another forty days and forty nights. A total of Eighty days of fasting. So we see the literal application of the forty and eighty days explained in the Word. The idea that forty days is masculine and eighty days is feminine will be seen more clearly... It is at this time that when the Children of Israel sin with the golden calf that the Levite's go throughout the camp and kill three thousand people. Had the Children of Israel not sinned with the golden calf then there would have only been forty days of fasting and therefore the first born would have remained as God's choice or the revealed masculine, but they sinned and Moses fasted another forty days a total of eighty days and the firstborn was rejected and the Levite's were taken or chosen instead of God's firstborn son which is feminine because this act introduces the system of religion that one must perform to please God... Let's look at another example... When the Children of Israel went to spy out the land of promise they looked over the land for forty days. We all know this story... The spies came back with a bad report and convinced the people not to go into the land, God was very angry as one can imagine... The first forty days was the time of impurity for a son... But they rebelled and were forced to roam the wilderness for forty years... Eighty, the time of impurity for a girl... We see here the introduction of the feminine... Remember when Adam needed a helpmate? God opened a door with a rib and revealed the woman, not another person but duality in Adam his mind will and intellect cast down into this worldly realm. As this begins to open up we begin to see that the first forty is masculine, but if there is rebellion then the second forty is revealed which is feminine and reveals our nakedness... When the Children of Israel refused to enter into the land after forty days of spying, a door was opened. (Something much bigger is going on here. You must read the preceding chapters in Numbers before the Children of Israel refused to enter into the land. They complain before God and God sends them manna which is bread from heaven and quail which is meat that flies in the heavens, before they refused to enter into the land. I don't want to get side tracked.) Let's go back to a door being opened. They rebelled, they rebelled, they rebelled... Are we beginning to notice a trend here? Rebellion reveals the second forty!!! Let's begin to look at forties and see if we can put it all together. As previously stated the first forty is masculine and the second forty reveals the feminine. Our first known forty is with Noah when it rained for forty days and forty nights. So far we see the masculine, because there is no rebellion, or is there? After the flood all get off the Ark and Noah becomes a farmer and plants a vineyard and gets drunk. Ham uncovers his father's nakedness... I explained previously. Look what is happening here. From Adam to Noah we have ten. Noah has three sons, masculine. However one son (Ham) uncovers his father's nakedness, just like Adam and Eve's nakedness was uncovered. Just like in the Book of Revelations a third of the stars have just been cast down, two sons didn't see their father's nakedness and one son did, so here we begin to see the introduction of the feminine. Ham's son Canaan is cursed or we have the revealing of the forty and this gives birth to the line of the feminine or the immoral woman. Eve? The next time we see a forty is when the Children of Israel come out of Israel... They were in captivity for four hundred and thirty years. God rebelled against all of humanity by separating out a people unto Himself or as God called them His firstborn son, singular. The thirty is a number that is one tenth of three hundred... Remember the Ark? Three hundred cubits long? Thirty is one tenth of three hundred. Enoch walked with God three hundred years or can we say that Enoch walked (three hundred) the perfect will of God and the thirty is the tithe of our individual walk to reveal that perfect walk revealing in us. So far I see Enoch walking out the revealing of one forty, for God took him. So now the children of Israel are in the wilderness... Moses fasts on the mount for forty days and forty nights. The Children of Israel rebel and worship the golden calf, a door is opened. Moses comes down from the mount and fast another forty days and forty nights... We see the woman being revealed... God rejects His Firstborn son whom He delivered out of the bondage of Israel and takes the Levite's, the priesthood, and the law instead. But it gets a little better... Because hidden in the dimensions of the Tabernacle of Moses is the revealing of the sixty six. Or the number left over from the first two weeks of uncleanness of a woman who gave birth to a daughter. Each time we see two forties we see a casting down. So while in the wilderness the spies spy out the land for forty days, masculine... But they rebel and out of fear they don't enter into the land, so they spend forty years in the wilderness revealing the eighty or feminine. So now the Children of Israel enter into a land peopled with the curse of Canaan from the first round of forties with Noah. We now have two women in the land. The first woman is revealed as wisdom, knowledge, and understanding, and the second woman is the immoral woman who peoples the land. Let me try to tie this all up... Let's use a little spiritual algebra. If the premise of what I have previously stated is close to correct then, when Adam went into a deep sleep and his rib was taken that was a forty... When they, Adam and the woman ate from the Tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil, their eyes were opened that was the second forty... Revealing their nakedness... Noah's son Ham as well. Too me, this really blows my mind, because when we contrast this with the second Adam in the person of Jesus Christ one must remember He fasted forty days and forty nights... Satan (adversary) came to temp Him... Jesus Christ did not open a door to give place to Satan or the feminine... Jesus revealed Himself as God's one and only Firstborn Son... There is so much more, but you must ponder this because, it will just keep growing ...

To throw it out there again … the word rib is the word door, which it is out of the side where the woman comes out of, which Paul relates to what this is in picture form to him, as did John in his epistles as the way he came into the earth (being relative to this coming in us) … Eve (not the woman) being the mother of all living, which Jesus related to John the Baptist as being of (but not himself, his perception was that he was born of God, which again is relative to every son (no gender implied) even to one who would be considered the least.
 
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