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people don't get outraged that a guy they name a saint advocated that official authorities torture heretics so that God himself won't torture the heretics. i'm happy that we can so trust in people who pretend to have wisdom and power and that we so blindly and freely give away wisdom like some drunken harlot, because the beast is the seven spirits of God.
Jesus spoke plainly and so they murdered him and they apparently mistranslated an "a" into "the".
in hell there are some souls who think they are God.
to this very day I have the ability to fail. <--- that's a ten word sentence.
well, I feel better.
Jesus spoke plainly and so they murdered him and they apparently mistranslated an "a" into "the".
in hell there are some souls who think they are God.
to this very day I have the ability to fail. <--- that's a ten word sentence.
well, I feel better.
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I'm wondering why you think that God gave choices?
Everyone chooses to be with God or side with satan.
Jesus giving explicite wording on the danger involved
in choosing to side with God's enemy seems reason enough
to believe in His word.
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I guess for a lot of us, brought up by fathers with stiff upper lips,
it might not be hard to conceive of the Father as a block of cold ice. ....
lol my condolences. Many who only look at the OT may think that also.
It's not until seeing the heart of Jesus as living water given over to then
become the original cloud that not only filled the temple but also led the nation
that the picture seems complete.
That same cloud that led the nation became the pillar of fire that led by night,
NT became flames on the individuals symbolic of the Spirit's lead.
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Hebrews 12:14-29
I'm wondering why you think that God gave choices?
Everyone chooses to be with God or side with satan.
Jesus giving explicite wording on the danger involved
in choosing to side with God's enemy seems reason enough
to believe in His word.
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SolomonVII said: ?
I guess for a lot of us, brought up by fathers with stiff upper lips,
it might not be hard to conceive of the Father as a block of cold ice. ....
lol my condolences. Many who only look at the OT may think that also.
It's not until seeing the heart of Jesus as living water given over to then
become the original cloud that not only filled the temple but also led the nation
that the picture seems complete.
That same cloud that led the nation became the pillar of fire that led by night,
NT became flames on the individuals symbolic of the Spirit's lead.
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Hebrews 12:14-29
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choices are good. freedom must be. being this creature set me free from the compulsion of the divine necessity. i'm perfectly fine with not being accepted into the pearly gates of heaven. if I belong in hell then that is where I will go. I know God takes care of all of us while at the same time keeping us free. if only he acted then it would mean that only He is. this is an offense to me because I wish to love Him for more than all eternity and infinity. I only exist for God, I have no other reason to be nor do I wish to have another reason to be.
some people think of God in sick ways. they think his creatures would exist merely for him to experience himself, then he deletes them when they grow old. some people can't fathom existing forever as a soul. they think eventually they would seek to not exist. not me. the creature can't fathom existing forever but love can.
Gods will is his love and with that moving/beginning of love there is wisdom. to become for God.... and God must become for me.... because love knows the truth because love makes the truth.
some people think of God in sick ways. they think his creatures would exist merely for him to experience himself, then he deletes them when they grow old. some people can't fathom existing forever as a soul. they think eventually they would seek to not exist. not me. the creature can't fathom existing forever but love can.
Gods will is his love and with that moving/beginning of love there is wisdom. to become for God.... and God must become for me.... because love knows the truth because love makes the truth.
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What God experienced by his creation is just as unfathomable as God is, though it only be found in a moment.
Anti-christ is one who would be Christ to you without being the christ in you, but even this becomes relative as self in the form of something exclusive as it is inclusive, as one not separate from the other.
Anti-christ is one who would be Christ to you without being the christ in you, but even this becomes relative as self in the form of something exclusive as it is inclusive, as one not separate from the other.
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I love Moses' depiction of the path of life, how each stage (if one could use such a word) reveals our humanity, in the form it appears to us in, when we are in a particular stage (which itself is only one form found in the tabernacle as an unending truth revealed in heaven).
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Wow. Profoundly and succinctly stated. With our own mind we measure God, who is immeasurable...without beginning or end. Perceiving/seeing comes when ONE is separate from the other...knowing the son that we are IN Truth. The sun and moon mark time, a measure, when God's garden grew before the sun was hung...yet there was still Day and Night.
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Food for the nations ...
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Briefly read this thread this morning and will go back and read it more thoroughly, but as touching God.. Moses said who am I to tell them who sent me?? I Am that I Am-- so in the name of God as opposed to heaven or hell, perhaps it is what we add to the word or Name I Am, which ALL say this and so without realizing it all are saying they are God. yet we are to overcome the enemies of our own household and thus what we add to I Am is the same as Christ...who thought it not robbery to be equal to God. Perhaps being in hell is a state of mind, and we need to be freed from the prison of it, by coming up higher in our thinking as the new man should be. In fact when we are in the lawst and bound dept or literal reading of the scriptures is when we are then SENTENCED into Christ, and thus freed from the literal prison of words written, and are now on the quest of BEing instead of doing...
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agree that is ironically funny as we are sentenced to life in Christ or a law of life, being eternal..
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Ya-- food for the nations/consciousness--for this is not forbidden fruit/knowledge.
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manger, womb and tomb-- are they not all the same yet different as for growth?
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The beast is the seven spirits of God?? Maybe in their lower form, but when converted as energy is they can thus become positive and be raised-- wisdom, understanding, knowledge, fear of the lord, etc.. those are the spirits needing be raised to a higher innerstanding or energy..people don't get outraged that a guy they name a saint advocated that official authorities torture heretics so that God himself won't torture the heretics. i'm happy that we can so trust in people who pretend to have wisdom and power and that we so blindly and freely give away wisdom like some drunken harlot, because the beast is the seven spirits of God.
Jesus spoke plainly and so they murdered him and they apparently mistranslated an "a" into "the".
in hell there are some souls who think they are God.
to this very day I have the ability to fail. <--- that's a ten word sentence.
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actually 12 is the number of government - so healing is when one can self govern by being the love, joy etc.. and they are always abundant...
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