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you are free-- free from wickedness as eye see it-- yet I can only say that the near death experience I had in 2015, only makes me to KNOW that we are eternal-- no death except in not knowing things as they truly are.
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Ya - we all used to take thought-- yet when thee is silence in the heaves for a bout the space of an hour then the teacher can come forth! Virgin mind that is of taking no thought!
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I see this as they took his crown of life/words and twisted them and thus crowned him with their words/thorns and this is the death of him.. yet again, as you stated, knowledge can puff up and love always wins, builds up- thus Christ has been lifted up...
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yes ... it is the duality of our mind which binds our perception by a measure we mete, which is a measure of oneself and therefor our Father...
It never ceases to amaze me in the myriads of ways our brother was a picture of this proses we find ourselves in and how it works to bring forth His son in Himself as Himself .... a revealing of the Father in the Son
It never ceases to amaze me in the myriads of ways our brother was a picture of this proses we find ourselves in and how it works to bring forth His son in Himself as Himself .... a revealing of the Father in the Son
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The language of God that has been turned to us is amazing, it really is a pure river, water (of life) that really is clear as crystal, a truth that really does proceed out of the throne of God and of the Lamb, in the form of a language/law that flows out of us, and into our soul, as the image of an only begotten.
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I can again be a witness to the above as I was told within a long while back that a new language was coming that was pure, which as a kid I was told that things were lost in translation...
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By not eating Jesus broke the neck (or crushed the head) of the pattern of what the words "this is my beloved son in whom I am well pleased" became to him (a word/dream/vision from God becomes to the one who receives it (a bible wide truth).
We author our own confusion (concerning this language that defines the process of a son (of the word we are) out of disobedience; build our own tower ... city ...
It's not a language that reveals our nakedness, this language enclosed, closes a door ... where knowledge and life are not a separate truth.
Of a tree in the midst of the river, being the banks (on either side) of the river.
144 fruit manner of fruits a year/jubilee/a son ...
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I love the above, and yet I have to ask you what the meaning of Jesus not eating means to you? I mean I found that fasting is fasting our thoughts, by taking no thought-- I also see that fasting when used in the scriptures is mourning/crying out-- is this not what people do when in a desert scene or having a famine of the word? They fast/cry out? For when the Bridegroom is in the bridle chamber then who needs to fast/cry out? In other words I do not see it for fasting literal food necessarily, though this is good.
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The first commandment to Adam, "Thou shalt not eat..." and the fast as in Isaiah 58..."well watered garden whose waters never cease..." and a tree...
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I see as you do ... And the more I see (which I've no doubt it is the same for you as it is for all those who have entered into her gates) the more single the truth of this becomes to me as a picture within the collective narrative the bible is (but not limited to this) as the language that defines it being.
There is a feast in the midst of famine ...
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Thank you and yes Beloved.. I get that and long ago I was to fast carnality. But it seems there is something else to it as well?
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"I have to ask you what the meaning of Jesus not eating means to you?"
to me it means that Jesus accepted everything happening around him self, knowing it to be the work of his/our Father and therefor did not measure/judge himself or others ... he did not harken to his wife/soul seeing her language being measurement afforded to her by flesh/five senses and therefor did not eat from the table she prepared, but only ate from the table already prepared by his spirit/Father
He did not drink from the cup ... it being a mixture of what is and what is not and therefor his mind/eye remained single, and therefor there was no duality/division found in him ... a truly amazing thing to ponder when we have knowledge ( let alone understanding ) of how he became sin for us by entering into it as a sacrifice without spot and without blemish as we all are being lambs to the slaughter, but for Jesus he understood from where he was to fall from, hence His sweat became like drops of blood, falling down upon the ground.
to me it means that Jesus accepted everything happening around him self, knowing it to be the work of his/our Father and therefor did not measure/judge himself or others ... he did not harken to his wife/soul seeing her language being measurement afforded to her by flesh/five senses and therefor did not eat from the table she prepared, but only ate from the table already prepared by his spirit/Father
He did not drink from the cup ... it being a mixture of what is and what is not and therefor his mind/eye remained single, and therefor there was no duality/division found in him ... a truly amazing thing to ponder when we have knowledge ( let alone understanding ) of how he became sin for us by entering into it as a sacrifice without spot and without blemish as we all are being lambs to the slaughter, but for Jesus he understood from where he was to fall from, hence His sweat became like drops of blood, falling down upon the ground.
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