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I agree with you to the point that if I had the chance in this scenario i would take it: someone was gonna kill you for what you believe and I had the option to step up and die with you too.

not that that means anything if they are only words but I feel even more free than I used to feel. so free that Christianity as we know it is so far behind me. God and people are what mattered to Jesus and they are what matters to me and the best gifts I can ever give anyone is my own personality, my own soul, my love. and I have to help people in whatever way is my fate to help people and fellowship with people that love God and other people is only a good thing for me. when one person says something good, no matter what or who they are, I rejoice. I am happy over people going against the grain. I am happy to see some people who search out the truth, who seek after God and are THEMSELVES towards God in their reaching and seeking for him. God loves each of his children and never has he turned his face from any of us.

the pure of heart shall see God.
 
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"I feel even more free than I used to feel, so free that Christianity as we know it is so far behind me."

It is the difference between the seeds. Even Christianity is a serpent, or the path of one.

To know our father we must know we came out of him, and by this understand if we have come out of him we can return to him, and out of this that we are in him presently.

The servant and the serpent are the one who does not abide in the house forever, only a son is a true servant.
 
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Amen.
 
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x141. I don't understand most of what you say, but i think i do understand my own disconnection with Modern Christianity, perhaps thats where you are also, i dont know. I just don't get it, everyone stuck in some maze of theology which was built on some teachers fallible teaching. Fallacy built on more fallacy. I'm of the opinion that we must not follow men but rather follow scripture. I have really grown to dislike teachers, in my opinion they are why we have misunderstanding rather than the Word, the more i fellowship with their followers the more i see that im better off just steering clear of them all. Anyone who loves the Word is a like mind that i can feel at peace with, but if they bring in their denominational discourse then i start to sense friction. And some of them seem to think that their way is infallible and they will reject anyone who sheds light on that. Im happy to walk in what i consider liberty. Sometimes we must seek the unpolluted waters of the Word.
 
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Mathew 18:If Your Brother Sins Against You
15 “If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone.

Ephesians 4:26 Be angry and do not sin; do not let the sun go down on your anger,






Forgive me.
 
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Modern Christianity is much like the Pharisees (who were for the most part sincere in their desire to serve God, as Paul said of himself) who would not enter, and those who were entering (through their words) forbade them, and if they make a proselyte, they make them twofold more the child of the devil then they are themselves (which though this language is very strong, it just simply means an adversary of God, or the purpose of God which is in them).

In someways the entering into the kingdom/word (not just seeing it) is like backing away from an object. When it is right in front of our face we may only see a blurred undefinable image of opaque color. As we back away, the image becomes larger to us until will begin to see the whole image taking form, though the form of the image has never changed, just the position we view it from.

Only the Spirit of Truth that abides in us can lead us into this, no one else can do this, not even ourselves, though we give it our best efforts. When the word that God is divides us (spirit from soul) we begin to understand how our soul rules over us in this based upon an image outside of us.

Take the word God for instances. Is who God is defined by a dictionary ... how many words does it take to reveal the one word God is ... but after all we must start somewhere mustn't we. So did God, he started with Adam, who Luke said was the son of God.
 
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It is amazing to me that he breathed in this kingdom into mankind from the beginning as inheritance that was ours, and not purchased by any price by us, but was his sacrifice from the beginning and himself the only price for the building of it.

We so highly under estimate God; as if those words could even convey such a Truth.
 
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the cross and the resurrection speak about reality so plainly. this is an endless love and the way i go i do not know. but I go. how could he not love us? he gave his life for us. I know what I am saying when i say those words because I no longer know him according to the flesh.

it is not about taking upon yourselves the symbols of Christianity. it is about living those symbols out as reality. because the reality creates the symbols, not the symbols the reality.

Christianity as it is, if it truly is, would have destroyed the world.

but this world is destroyed and it has never felt more alive.

I am his lie and he is my truth. I am his death and he is my resurrection.
 
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people have become wimps. you know what all the people here should do? ban us. kick us out. tell us we are heretics. they are so LIBERAL in the spirit of the world that they basically DO NOTHING.

damn lukewarm people. either HATE THAT WHICH IS GOOD BEFORE YOUR FACE OR LOVE IT.

hahaha. but they can't tell their left hand from their right, I wish they would admit it. some people don't know what good is even if it slapped them in the face!

you know what I hate? pride of religion. pride of being with God. OOO I'M SO CLOSE TO GOD. and yet you FAIL to see his own goodness. it's the same old story. prophets vs religious people. and i'm sure not a prophet. i'm a dragon. I breath rainbows of beauty out of my mouth.

but let me not DISRUPT your social/cultural christian values that are adapted to the world to such a degree that i HATE them. thus I rant in this place, because it's not like anyone is gonna hear. and this is not a rant at all, it is simply a way to translate my spirit into words, into being, just like I have always been doing when i'm at my best.

but i know that each person is unique. and so "they" or "that group" or "that label" are not really the person. and each person has their relationship with God, has their own heart that is in this or that condition.

the spirit desires for all to cast their chains off, to stop quenching him. to stop crucifying him. to come out of their fathers land and into a place that shall be given to them. for children are not to leave the boarders that the fathers gave to them but the young man earnestly seeking God with all that he is shall leave and find God.
 
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This was Jesus' to be born again ... where he was taught it of his Father, a truth that was relative to Adam as much as it was to Jesus, or any other that has ever lived it being in them from the beginning, but the path of life few find, but nevertheless I have confidence without measure that all will see this son.

When you have drank from the living waters you truly do not thirst again.

For it to be free and without cost implies it was never by thought to begin with.

It is without saying that If you are not free indeed, the son has not set you free, but it is not a truth that is found outside of self (we being this son), neither can anything add to it or take away from it. For how could this be seeing that all things that the Father has, has always been ours.

We must come out from among her breasts, come out of confusion.
 
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I have been angry like that too, its very understandable. But i've found joy in my personal relationship with the Lord. If i have said or acted in a way that may have offended anyone then i apologize. I find it so hard to deal with people, division makes it hard. This world is such a burden. Im growing so weary of it.
 
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in the spirit of the world you shall have trouble. but you are not from the world if indeed Christ lives in you and you in him. there is much joy with the Lord to be had and there are very many good people who do rejoice in God. we are all on different parts of our walk with the Lord. we must be patient with everyone. God has always been very patient with us. the world is a heavy burden but the Lords burden is light. at the same time this burden requires all that we are but this requirement is from True Love.

anything that drives us closer to Gods heart is worth it.

God commands us to love him with all that we are. then he commands us to love our neighbor as ourselves. now we love God with all that we are and so we have to love people like God loves people.... as much as that is possible. we gave ourselves to God and now self has to go by the standard that HE loves others with. because we have given our self to the one we love, we can no longer love our neighbor from our own capacity for we have given our capacity to God and God demands the best for all of us because he loves us. we do not get to pick who our neighbor is because we have given self to God who is love. God gets to pick who is our neighbor is now and how much we ought to love them.

God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son.... there is no greater love a man can have but to lay his soul down for his friends. those are examples of Gods love for us.

if we could be lost in the two greatest commandments... if we all could be lost in Gods love then all the problems of the world would be solved.

to love God with all that we are is what true salvation is. there is no greater reward than God himself. if you have Gods love you have all things. seek to be lost in Gods love. without his love 'self' is a horrible place to be.

I doubt you did anything wrong . I honestly don't think I did anything wrong either. everyone is fine in this place. i'm a little bit crazy but i'm sure if I take more of my medicines I will be okay. God is my medicine ofc.
 
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. Thank you for that word of encouragement. And i guess that we are much alike in that way.
 
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The language of God is not separate from how we think; this language becomes pure to us when it is defined by a river that flows from us, that is not parted by our soul due to the image seeded by the creation, or more specifically the tabernacle it is in, but instead infuses those things with the life that is this river of knowing that flows up out of pleasure from the midst of us as a land of abundance we live in, which is our own.
 
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Egypt to me is symbolic of this world, and God commands that we separate ourselves from it and live a holy and peaceful life in Christ. This of course means that we must learn Gods will and live by it.



Ephesians 5 New King James Version (NKJV)

Walk in Love
5 Therefore be imitators of God as dear children. 2 And walk in love, as Christ also has loved us and given Himself for us, an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet-smelling aroma.

3 But fornication and all uncleanness or covetousness, let it not even be named among you, as is fitting for saints; 4 neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor coarse jesting, which are not fitting, but rather giving of thanks. 5 For this you know,[a] that no fornicator, unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, has any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. 6 Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. 7 Therefore do not be partakers with them.

Walk in Light
8 For you were once darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light 9 (for the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness, righteousness, and truth), 10 finding out what is acceptable to the Lord. 11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them. 12 For it is shameful even to speak of those things which are done by them in secret. 13 But all things that are exposed are made manifest by the light, for whatever makes manifest is light. 14 Therefore He says:

“Awake, you who sleep,
Arise from the dead,
And Christ will give you light.”
Walk in Wisdom
15 See then that you walk circumspectly, not as fools but as wise, 16 redeeming the time, because the days are evil.

17 Therefore do not be unwise, but understand what the will of the Lord is. 18 And do not be drunk with wine, in which is dissipation; but be filled with the Spirit, 19 speaking to one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord, 20 giving thanks always for all things to God the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, 21 submitting to one another in the fear of God.[c]

Marriage—Christ and the Church
22 Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. 23 For the husband is head of the wife, as also Christ is head of the church; and He is the Savior of the body. 24 Therefore, just as the church is subject to Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything.

25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her, 26 that He might sanctify and cleanse her with the washing of water by the word, 27 that He might present her to Himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing, but that she should be holy and without blemish. 28 So husbands ought to love their own wives as their own bodies; he who loves his wife loves himself. 29 For no one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes and cherishes it, just as the Lord does the church. 30 For we are members of His body,[d] of His flesh and of His bones. 31 “For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.”[e] 32 This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the church. 33 Nevertheless let each one of you in particular so love his own wife as himself, and let the wife see that she respects her husband.
 
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1 Corinthians 10 New King James Version (NKJV)

Old Testament Examples
10 Moreover, brethren, I do not want you to be unaware that all our fathers were under the cloud, all passed through the sea, 2 all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, 3 all ate the same spiritual food, 4 and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ. 5 But with most of them God was not well pleased, for their bodies were scattered in the wilderness.

6 Now these things became our examples, to the intent that we should not lust after evil things as they also lusted. 7 And do not become idolaters as were some of them. As it is written, “The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.”[a] 8 Nor let us commit sexual immorality, as some of them did, and in one day twenty-three thousand fell; 9 nor let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed by serpents; 10 nor complain, as some of them also complained, and were destroyed by the destroyer. 11 Now all these things happened to them as examples, and they were written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the ages have come.

12 Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall. 13 No temptation has overtaken you except such as is common to man; but God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will also make the way of escape, that you may be able to bear it.

Flee from Idolatry
14 Therefore, my beloved, flee from idolatry. 15 I speak as to wise men; judge for yourselves what I say. 16 The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ? 17 For we, though many, are one bread and one body; for we all partake of that one bread.

18 Observe Israel after the flesh: Are not those who eat of the sacrifices partakers of the altar? 19 What am I saying then? That an idol is anything, or what is offered to idols is anything? 20 Rather, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice they sacrifice to demons and not to God, and I do not want you to have fellowship with demons. 21 You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons; you cannot partake of the Lord’s table and of the table of demons. 22 Or do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? Are we stronger than He?

All to the Glory of God
23 All things are lawful for me,[c] but not all things are helpful; all things are lawful for me,[d] but not all things edify. 24 Let no one seek his own, but each one the other’s well-being.

25 Eat whatever is sold in the meat market, asking no questions for conscience’ sake; 26 for “the earth is the Lord’s, and all its fullness.”[e]

27 If any of those who do not believe invites you to dinner, and you desire to go, eat whatever is set before you, asking no question for conscience’ sake. 28 But if anyone says to you, “This was offered to idols,” do not eat it for the sake of the one who told you, and for conscience’ sake;[f] for “the earth is the Lord’s, and all its fullness.”[g] 29 “Conscience,” I say, not your own, but that of the other. For why is my liberty judged by another man’s conscience? 30 But if I partake with thanks, why am I evil spoken of for the food over which I give thanks?

31 Therefore, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God. 32 Give no offense, either to the Jews or to the Greeks or to the church of God, 33 just as I also please all men in all things, not seeking my own profit, but the profit of many, that they may be saved.
 
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Egypt to me is symbolic of this world ...

All things hold symbolism that relate to the process, and there are endless truths to be found in them when we let the spirit guide us into these truths as a treasure that is hid in us.

In one form, Egypt was Joseph's tabernacle that was rejected, and his son (of an Egyptian) that was not accepted (Ishmael), even though Joseph was a picture of Christ and testified of him by the life that he had lived.

God calls every son out of the image that he is flesh which is what the world perceives itself as.
 
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