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[I Eat Pie]

Double Standard: Black Men Named Trayvon Get Killed all the Time, But The Left Doesn't Care - YouTube

 

[lupusFati]

He's right. That's all there is to it.

 

[I Eat Pie]

nicee

 

[I Eat Pie]

I posted this in response to the race thread, but I wanted to make a new thread about it.

I really enjoy this guy's videos.

 

[lupusFati]

I posted this in response to the race thread, but I wanted to make a new thread about it.

I really enjoy this guy's videos.

It's intelligent and well thought out. And it doesn't treat me like I'm a moron, while at the same time appealing to my tastes as a 24 year old.

Whether it's the same all across his other episodes I can't be certain without viewing them, but I couldn't disagree with anything he said in this one.

 

[I Eat Pie]

Ya. He does a lot of vids like this. I highly recommend them if you're interested in hearing more conservative talk. But all in all, smart guy.

 

[Shemjaza]

I think he's missing the point where an armed Zimmerman stalked an unarmed teenager then killed him... and the police didn't even charge him.

I doubt many people are claiming that all these other Trayvon's tragic deaths shouldn't even be investigated, and yet that's what happened with Trayvon Martin.

 

[I Eat Pie]

There were these pictures on the internet of Zimmerman's bloody face and the back of his head was bruised, so they're saying that he was attacked first, and something about Trayvon trespassing on private property, idk.

There's an interesting post I saw somewhere in the comments where someone said something like "They never say anything when black people kill other black people. I guess a black person's life is useless unless it's taken by a non-black person".

It's obviously not true, but it seems like something reasonable to say considering all the black-on-black violence in this country doesn't get much coverage.

 

[lupusFati]

I think he's missing the point where an armed Zimmerman stalked an unarmed teenager then killed him... and the police didn't even charge him.

I doubt many people are claiming that all these other Trayvon's tragic deaths shouldn't even be investigated, and yet that's what happened with Trayvon Martin.

He said that wasn't proven yet, and he believes in 'innocent until proven guilty'. He isn't condoning anything Zimmerman may or may not have done. He's just addressing an issue many people seem content to ignore.

 

[Ana the Ist]

I don't watch videos since I only visit this site from my phone...but complaints about what the media doesn't cover are often poorly thought out. If a story is huge, and obviously would attract a lot of attention, and yet the media doesn't cover it....that is suspicious and there may be something behind it. However, if a story is fairly commonplace (example: black on black crime) and the media doesn't cover it...that's simply good business. Whether we're speaking about a televised news program, a newspaper, or some other for-profit news outlet, they are all businesses. They need to make money in an increasingly competitive market to stay in business. If a story is commonplace, its quite fair to think that if a particular media outlet covered these same stories day after day they would lose the interest of their audience quickly. With a shrinking audience, advertisers will pay less and less and then leave altogether. It's not rocket science.

 

[Paradoxum]

Trayvon Martin was a kid shot coming back from the shops, not some gang war. It brings up issues of guns and potentially racism. I would think that is why it is different.

Obviously someone being killing in gang violence, whether they are black or white, is bad; but if it isn't doesn't stand out in some way then it probably wont become news.

So I don't see what the problem is. That is how all news seems to work.

 

[Shemjaza]

He said that wasn't proven yet, and he believes in 'innocent until proven guilty'. He isn't condoning anything Zimmerman may or may not have done. He's just addressing an issue many people seem content to ignore.

Innocent until proven guilty is all well and good, but if it takes a national backlash to even get charged... there's a problem.

The kid was walking the back streets, and an armed man was stalking him. I don't think those two are in doubt.

I think it's weird that people are supporting the right to "stand you ground" for the armed stalker, but the victim getting the upper hand at some point and blooding his nose before he's shot to death is now portrayed as an aggressor.

 

[I Eat Pie]

Trayvon Martin was a kid shot coming back from the shops, not some gang war. It brings up issues of guns and potentially racism. I would think that is why it is different.

Obviously someone being killing in gang violence, whether they are black or white, is bad; but if it isn't doesn't stand out in some way then it probably wont become news.

So I don't see what the problem is. That is how all news seems to work.

I think he's saying that he doesn't like how when black folks are killed all the time, these Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson people and the black community as a whole don't come out and protest the violence, but when someone non-black kills a black person, they all suddenly band together and get mad.

 

[Paradoxum]

I think he's saying that he doesn't like how when black folks are killed all the time, these Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson people and the black community as a whole don't come out and protest the violence, but when someone non-black kills a black person, they all suddenly band together and get mad.

I guess because it is perceived as a racist attack, and so an attack on the whole race, not just an individual.

 

[I Eat Pie]

Ya you're right but there's sorta a black on black crime epidemic going on. Last year, Chicago had a milestone of 500 deaths and about 70% of the deaths were black men killed by other black men. But nobody adresses these things.

 

[keith99]

Ya you're right but there's sorta a black on black crime epidemic going on. Last year, Chicago had a milestone of 500 deaths and about 70% of the deaths were black men killed by other black men. But nobody adresses these things.

Are you saying that the police do not investigate?

The police are addressing this the same way they address other crimes. Problem is that a huge part of black on black crime is in bad areas where witnesses are hard to find. That is really not the fault of law abiding individuals in the areas. To talk is to become the next target and most likely change nothing, save that your kids are fatherless.

 

[I Eat Pie]

I'm not talking about the cops. I'm talking about these suposed black leaders like Al Sharpton.

 

[lupusFati]

To be honest, I've noticed the racism of people like Al Sharpton. If I'm white, I have to be evil in his eyes. It doesn't matter what's been done.

 

[keith99]

I'm not talking about the cops. I'm talking about these suposed black leaders like Al Sharpton.

He is not someone merely doing nothing. He is one of those vilifying anyone who tries to do something. And yes, even other blacks.

 

[ThatRobGuy]

Trayvon Martin was a kid shot coming back from the shops, not some gang war. It brings up issues of guns and potentially racism. I would think that is why it is different.

I think your facts my be a little messed up on this part...he wasn't just walking home from the shops, the report was that he was walking around at night in the rain, peering into windows of houses (in a neighborhood that had a high break-in rate).

It wasn't just a case where Zimmerman decided he was going to randomly follow a black teen.

When Martin saw Zimmerman, he started staring at him and acted like he was reaching into his waistband (universal gesture of making people think you have a weapon)

I would think if Zimmerman's plan was to stalk a random teen and shoot them, he wouldn't have bothered with the whole phone call to the police.