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CHICAGO - Republican 2024 presidential nominee Donald Trump in a controversial and combative appearance at the National Association of Black Journalists Annual Convention took swipes on Wednesday at Vice President Kamala Harris's racial identity — a move that comes as excitement swells for the Democratic contender.

"I didn't know she was Black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn Black, and now she wants to be known as Black," the former president said of Harris, who is on track to face Trump as the Democratic presidential nominee. “Is she Indian or is she Black? Because she was Indian all the way and then all of a sudden she made a turn and she went she became a Black person.”

Trump questions Kamala Harris' racial identity at NABJ, says she 'happened to turn Black'

Or maybe he really didn't know. Which is possible, but it's an unnecessary error. Someone should have been watching him to stop that kind of thing.
 

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CHICAGO - Republican 2024 presidential nominee Donald Trump in a controversial and combative appearance at the National Association of Black Journalists Annual Convention took swipes on Wednesday at Vice President Kamala Harris's racial identity — a move that comes as excitement swells for the Democratic contender.

"I didn't know she was Black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn Black, and now she wants to be known as Black," the former president said of Harris, who is on track to face Trump as the Democratic presidential nominee. “Is she Indian or is she Black? Because she was Indian all the way and then all of a sudden she made a turn and she went she became a Black person.”

Trump questions Kamala Harris' racial identity at NABJ, says she 'happened to turn Black'

Or maybe he really didn't know. Which is possible, but it's an unnecessary error. Someone should have been watching him to stop that kind of thing.
Well, Kamala is half Jamaican, half Asian-Indian, so she is both black and Indian. :)

Anyways, it is back to my Olympics thread now, as it has blown up in popularity.

From the BBC:
 
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Well, Kamala is half Jamaican, half Asian-Indian, so she is both black and Indian.
I think Trump thought that this might have angered Kamela, but it seems he angered a lot of potential Trump voters.
 
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I think Trump thought that this might have angered Kamela, but it seems he angered a lot of potential Trump voters.
Seems that Trump has angered his own party. Overall, both sides have angered each other. Sometimes, we as a society should put our differences aside, and compromise, as we used to do back 20 years ago.
 
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Seems that Trump has angered his own party. Overall, both sides have angered each other. Sometimes, we as a society should put our differences aside, and compromise, as we used to do back 20 years ago.
Compromise seems a dirty word in politics right now. True believers never compromise.
 
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Compromise seems a dirty word in politics right now. True believers never compromise.
That is true. It has become a dirty word in politics. Some compromise is okay, but some is not, so it takes discernment. :)
 
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CHICAGO - Republican 2024 presidential nominee Donald Trump in a controversial and combative appearance at the National Association of Black Journalists Annual Convention took swipes on Wednesday at Vice President Kamala Harris's racial identity — a move that comes as excitement swells for the Democratic contender.

"I didn't know she was Black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn Black, and now she wants to be known as Black," the former president said of Harris, who is on track to face Trump as the Democratic presidential nominee. “Is she Indian or is she Black? Because she was Indian all the way and then all of a sudden she made a turn and she went she became a Black person.”

Trump questions Kamala Harris' racial identity at NABJ, says she 'happened to turn Black'

Or maybe he really didn't know. Which is possible, but it's an unnecessary error. Someone should have been watching him to stop that kind of thing.

I didn't know she was black....because I don't see color.
 
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I didn't know she was black....because I don't see color.
Amen, I try not to see color either, and if I do, all people of the different skin colors are treated equally by me. :)
 
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I think Trump thought that this might have angered Kamela, but it seems he angered a lot of potential Trump voters.
Well we can always hope that Trump said something that's going to cost him enough voters to lose the election.
 
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I know because it's mentioned in the same breath as her name. Otherwise it wouldn't have occurred to me.


I didn't realize that this was an event for the presidential candidates...and Harris apparently ducked it. Trump showed up ready to debate....Harris hid.

I totally forgot that she spent about 2 years leaning into the whole "1st Indian female" to get tokenized by the Democratic Party....but I recall it now.


They should start calling her Kamala X for short now....
 
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I totally forgot that she spent about 2 years leaning into the whole "1st Indian female" to get tokenized by the Democratic Party....but I recall it now.
Yeah that might have been quite a showdown. Too bad that she was too busy doing whatever to keep her away from it.

Edit: Looks like speaking to a sorority took precedent.
 
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Isn’t it odd just how often people who decry “identity-politics“, use it when it’s to their own advantage.
Yep. A few years ago, guys like Trump were saying she was too black and Trump was keeping people like her out of his apartment houses. Now, they're claiming she isn't black enough.

I mean, who would have thought Jamaicans were black?
 
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No longer was it two white men born in the 1940s facing off — again — for who should return to the White House. Instead, it’s between Trump, a man who is 78, against Harris, who is 59 and would make history as the first woman and first woman of color to be president if she is elected.

And within a day, Harris was already facing attacks that centered on her race and gender, making it clear that while Republicans may try to tie her to some of Biden’s policies, she will face criticisms he never did.

It is some of the same playbook that Trump and his allies ran the last time a woman was on top of a major-party ticket. In 2016, Hillary Clinton’s qualifications, look and voice were also scrutinized. But this time, Republicans are also going after the background of Harris, the daughter of an Indian mother and a Jamaican father.


Just in case "but she's not black enough" is a bad idea, the far right has also been trying out the "but she's too black" trope as well.

On July 26, 2024, Musk shared on X, a platform formerly known as Twitter and was acquired by the Tesla CEO, a campaign video that displays Harris making negative comments about President Biden and labeling herself as “the ultimate diversity hire.” However, this campaign video was not released by Harris’ campaign and was created by Artificial Intelligence (AI).

"She's black, so she must not have earned her job." Desperation often makes people do stupid things. Two prime examples.

And Obama, being a man, didn't have to deal with that, even though...
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,,,you'd have to be a really astute racist to separate those complexions.
 
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Isn’t it odd just how often people who decry “identity-politics“, use it when it’s to their own advantage.

...yea, as Trump intoned - it "needs to be looked into"
 
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I think Trump thought that this might have angered Kamela, but it seems he angered a lot of potential Trump voters.

...yes, Harris left Trump sink himself....her comments hours later in Houston:

“the same old show — the divisiveness and the disrespect.”

“The American people deserve a leader who tells the truth,” she said. “A leader who doesn’t respond with hostility and anger when presented with the facts. We deserve a leader who understands that our differences do not divide us. They are an essential source of our strength.”

 
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As I understand it, somebody did. Trump was supposed to be interviewed for an hour but it was cut to 35 minutes.
Maybe so. Who does he have on his staff, able to shut him down when he veers off into that kind of weirdness? I mean mocking a woman for being black, in an interview with black journalists...
 
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Maybe so. Who does he have on his staff, able to shut him down when he veers off into that kind of weirdness? I mean mocking a woman for being black, in an interview with black journalists...
I know. You couldn't make it up.

I think his minions have always had this problem. He sacks people for disagreeing with him, I think. So they are diffident about interrupting him in full flow. Somebody drew the short straw yesterday.
 
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