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This Thread Will End All Debate On The Sabbath Once And For All

Hentenza

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Over half of the 114 sayings in the GoT do not appear anywhere in scripture and are unique to GoT.
 
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It is understood by some that the Glory of God, and in general what was "seen" was not God the Father. As it was Christ Who taught that the Father could not be seen, I would tend to trust that. Paul taught that God was invisible.
 
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It is understood by some that the Glory of God, and in general what was "seen" was not God the Father. As it was Christ Who taught that the Father could not be seen, I would tend to trust that.

Me too, I can't wait to see Him though.
 
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You are a liar, and you are deceived. If anyone comes to prophesy to lead you away from your God, that man must be stoned. Should we stone you according to the law?
 
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Perhaps he doesn't know how to quote?
That doesn't concern me nearly as the inability to respond to simple direct questions. Methinks a pattern of obfuscation is necessary to make the point required from comic book theological sources.
 
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It is understood by some that the Glory of God, and in general what was "seen" was not God the Father. As it was Christ Who taught that the Father could not be seen, I would tend to trust that. Paul taught that God was invisible.
Jesus said that if you have seen Him, you have seen the Father. But, blessed are those who have not seen me, yet believe.
 
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You are a liar, and you are deceived. If anyone comes to prophesy to lead you away from your God, that man must be stoned. Should we stone you according to the law?

John 10:33 Answered Him, the Judeans saying "about a good work not We are Stoning Thee; but about blasphemy; and that Thou, being a man, are making thyself a God/Elohiym/qeon <2316> ".

Reve 16:21 And Hail great as talent-weight/talantiaia <5006> is descending out of the Heaven upon the Men.
And blaspheme the God the Men out of the blow of the Hail, that great is the blow of it/her, tremendous.

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Well, according to the law, eating shrimp would defile the body, but all food is good if taken in thansgiving. If what comes out of the mouth defiles the body, then the lies you are deceived by though they do not come out of your mouth on this forum are defiling yours.

For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: 1 Timothy 4:4
 
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I do say though that you should consider the reason I made this thread, It was not to promote this Gospel it was to promote the sabbath..
At least there is a modicum of honesty remaining.

You do realize that Sinai isn't compatible with the new covenant in Christ's adoption as His children, don't you? That's the reason we are commanded to cast it off according to Galatians 4:30, because "the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman", meaning those who remain unredeemed from the covenant law that ordained the sabbath will not inherit eternal life.
 
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Gala 4:30 but what saith the Writing? Be Casting Out!/ekbale <1544> (5628) the maid-servant and her son, for the son of the maid-servant may not be heir with the son of the free-one;'

Reve 11:2 and the Court/Fold, the one with out of the Sanctuary, be you Casting Out/ekbale <1544> (5628) out-side/exw <1854> and not her you should be measuring, that she was given to the nations.

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Great earthquake around October or November of this year. Mark it. Sorry if it does not come to pass.
Where at?

Ezekiel 38:19 "And in My jealously in fire of rage of Me I speak if not in that day, shall become a great quake on ground of Israel"?

Reve 16:18 and became lightnings and thunders and voices and a great quake became such-as not became since the men became upon the land, such proportion a quake thus great.
 
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What about Ezekiel 39:12

Matthew 3:7 Being aware yet many of the Pharisees and Sadducees coming upon the baptism of him he said to them "produce of vipers! who shows to ye to be fleeing from the being about/melloushV <3195> (5723) Wrath

Matt 23:33 "Serpents! produce of vipers! how? ye may be fleeing from the judging of the geennhV <1067> "

Ezekiel 39:12 And house of Israel bury them so that to purify/cleanse the Land seven months. And all of people of the Land bury them.
And He becomes to them for a Name, Day of to be glorified Me, declaration of my Lord YHWH.
[Revelation 19:17]
 
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Okay, wipe the drool off your chin and pay attention for once.

Your first reference to the law of sin and death comes from Romans 7 - but that "another law" isn't introduced until rather late in the chapter. This chapter was written to those who actually know the law: "for I speak to those who know the law" (verse 1). Romans 7 then goes on to explain what we have been delivered from, by quoting the law:

6 But now we have been delivered from the law, having died to what we were held by, so that we should serve in the newness of the Spirit and not in the oldness of the letter.
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through the law. For I would not have known covetousness unless the law had said, &#8220;You shall not covet.&#8221;


The use of "the law" is consistent in this passage, and it isn't sin and death. It quotes from the law, identifying "the law" we have been delivered from as the Sinai covenant: "You shall not covet" comes from Exodus 20:17 and Deuteronomy 5:21, found in the ten commandments, and nowhere else.

Hebrews 10:1-9 explain how God has no pleasure in the ordinances that required the burnt offerings, among which is the sabbath, according to the law itself in Numbers 28:9-10. The "first" that Jesus Christ takes away is the covenant from Sinai, the ten commandments (see Deuteronomy 4:12-13), and this passage does a double-whammy on the sabbath as the ordinance that is taken away.

It would seem that you do not know the law.
Now that I have your attention, refer to the event that initiated the new covenant, when the former covenant of Sinai was taken away, by looking at Hebrews 9:15-17:

15 And for this reason He is the Mediator of the new covenant, by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions under the first covenant, that those who are called may receive the promise of the eternal inheritance.
16 For where there is a testament, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. 17 For a testament is in force after men are dead, since it has no power at all while the testator lives.


And if you would be so kind, please return to the initial question I asked you when I first entered this thread:
This "gospel" message contains a number of contradictions to Scripture, that would prohibit it from inclusion to canon. But turning a blind eye to the problems that it has, there is another approach you can use to determine if your selected quote carries any weight.

Return to your quote's source, and determine when the statement concerning the sabbath was given.
Was this statement made before or after the death of the Testator, Who inaugurated the new covenant with His death?
In other words, was this statement made to the children of Israel during the tenure of the Mosaic covenant, or does the statement carry any impact to the church in the new covenant era?

Answering this question honestly will reveal that this suspect quote does not support the sabbath today.
 
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