This Thread Will End All Debate On The Sabbath Once And For All

[LittleLambofJesus]

This Thread Will End All Debate On The Sabbath Once And For All

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Largest thread showing.....this one got split 2 times, but, didn't make it to the 3rd time

http://www.christianforums.com/t1126731/
Gods Sabbath Day

http://www.christianforums.com/t1281890/
Gods Sabbath Day (2)

http://www.christianforums.com/t1933141/
Gods Sabbath Day (3)

 

[help_the_lord]

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[PaladinValer]

It's as easy for a man to take the Gospel of Thomas and call it gnostic (which i realise it has been referred to long before today) as it is for a man to put a wool sweater on a wolf and call it a sheep, the same purpose is served and nobody comes out any better.

I have in my position an all-in-one-volume collection of the Gnostic Scriptures. Thomas is in it.

It is Gnostic.

 

[VictorC]

I stumbled across the gospel of Thomas earlier today in what I believe to be divine intervention.. as I have been begreived over people arguing about the Sabbath lately.. The Gospel of Thomas is respected as having divine authorship however was not included into the NT cannon because they chose to only include 4 versions.. The gospel of Thomas if you are not familiar is a collection of Jesus's sayings.. this being the one that can finally put an end to this discussion once and for all.

27 "If you do not fast from the world, you will not find the (Father's) domain. If you do not observe the sabbath as a sabbath you will not see the Father."

This "gospel" message contains a number of contradictions to Scripture, that would prohibit it from inclusion to canon. But turning a blind eye to the problems that it has, there is another approach you can use to determine if your selected quote carries any weight.

Return to your quote's source, and determine when the statement concerning the sabbath was given.
Was this statement made before or after the death of the Testator, Who inaugurated the new covenant with His death?
In other words, was this statement made to the children of Israel during the tenure of the Mosaic covenant, or does the statement carry any impact to the church in the new covenant era?

Answering this question honestly will reveal that this suspect quote does not support the sabbath today.

 

[Dark_Lite]

It's as easy for a man to take the Gospel of Thomas and call it gnostic (which i realise it has been referred to long before today) as it is for a man to put a wool sweater on a wolf and call it a sheep, the same purpose is served and nobody comes out any better.

Well, when it is a gnostic work, then there's no real other choice. Sometimes a spade is a spade, or something like that. I think after your Origins Theology fiasco(es), you may want to take a step back and really research what you use for sources...

 

[Christos Anesti]

I remember reading a book by E.B. White many years ago ( I picked up two huge hardcovers at a garage sale) and she was talking about how the Albigensian were persecuted and how they were the forerunners of the Protestants and the SDA Church. Maybe they do have an affinity for gnosticism? What I thought was really strange though was the SDA are in many ways Judaizers whereas the Cathar/albegensians considered the God of the Old Testament to be the evil demiurge!

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

It's as easy for a man to take the Gospel of Thomas and call it gnostic (which i realise it has been referred to long before today) as it is for a man to put a wool sweater on a wolf and call it a sheep, the same purpose is served and nobody comes out any better.

I did put in a "plug" for him on the other thread

http://www.christianforums.com/t7426870/#post53875862

I also found a poll thread on the Gospel of Thomas but I will let someone else "resurrect" it

http://www.christianforums.com/t3291812/
How much of the Gospel of Thomas is accurate?

 

[Christos Anesti]

I found some quotes from the book on this web page:


"The gospel had been planted in Bohemia as early as the ninth century. The Bible was translated, and public worship was conducted, in the language of the people. ... Heaven had provided other agencies for the preservation of the church. Many of the Waldenses and Albigenses, driven by persecution from their homes in France and Italy, came to Bohemia. Though they dared not teach openly, they labored zealously in secret. Thus the true faith was preserved from century to century ."
-- Ellen White, Great Controversy, Chapter 6, paragraph 1, p97.

"Century after century the blood of the saints had been shed. While the Waldenses laid down their lives upon the mountains of Piedmont "for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ," similar witness to the truth had been borne by their brethren, the Albigenses of France."
-- Ellen White, Great Controversy, Ch 15, p271.

 

[help_the_lord]

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[Montalban]

It's as easy for a man to take the Gospel of Thomas and call it gnostic (which i realise it has been referred to long before today) as it is for a man to put a wool sweater on a wolf and call it a sheep, the same purpose is served and nobody comes out any better.

It is easy, because its true.

 

[seashale76]

This one isn't funny if you take the time to think about its meaning. What are women known for? Jealousy, deceit, hating other women... What are men known for? Trying to find the good in things, bringing peace.. trying to be honorable.. it is clear this is what he meant.. he wasn't promoting hermaphradites or any other ridiculousness

Do not get married. Ever.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

dang! There were already 4 posts after I posted mine

 

[Montalban]

Ok so i need to look in my bible and find out if the suspect quote lines up with the bible and post dates the New Covenant (which is the removal of punishment of death imediately for sins.. as well as the removal of blood sacrafice)

If it lines up with the Bible, why didn't you quote from the Bible?

I take it you're now going to allow people to tender other evidence not from the Bible?

 

[Montalban]

Do not get married. Ever.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Ehehehe

http://www.christianforums.com/t7404715/
Is opeing another thread about Sabbath observance unerving?

 

[help_the_lord]

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[help_the_lord]

If it lines up with the Bible, why didn't you quote from the Bible?

I take it you're now going to allow people to tender other evidence not from the Bible?

i quoted from the bible what i felt worth quoting if you scroll up or go to the previous page you'll see it

 

[Hentenza]

So your sure it wasn't inspired? because you were there when it was written? wait a second that makes you what like 2000 years old? wow and you can still type? pretty astonishing, I would of assumed your fingers would have decayed and fell off by now..

Ok, I'll bite. Prove that the gnostic gospel of thomas is inspired.

 

[Dark_Lite]

Ok so i need to look in my bible and find out if the suspect quote lines up with the bible and post dates the New Covenant (which is the removal of punishment of death imediately for sins.. as well as the removal of blood sacrafice) um lemme check.. oh ya here we go..

There is plenty of theology in the Gospel of Thomas that lines up with orthodox Christianity. But, there is also quite a bit that does not.

 

[help_the_lord]

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