This needs an explanation

[Dave Watchman]

So what do you make of all of this, with what supposedly happened this past september 23rd. Do you think it is the sign talked about in revelation 12? Does it all line up?

Yes, I think that it's the sign from Revelation 12. But I never thought anything would happen on the 23rd. Something might have happened, but I doubted it. But there's no use in getting worked up over it. It looks to me like some of the naysayers are more worried about it than the rapture people who seem to be cheering it on.

I could be a nut, but why I think that the Revelation 12 sign is the real deal is because I think that I've found Matthew 24's "darkened' sun and the moon that will not give her light. When I measure the day that Jupiter entered into Virgo's body to begin the great sign in heaven, until the "darkened" sun, it shows 777 days. Then after Jupiter leaves the body of Virgo and joins Venus in a conjunction, until the "darkened" sun, measures 420 days. Which is the last 420 days of a 1260 day period that's measured after the third moon of the 2015 tetrad. This is what I think Jesus was talking about in Luke 12 when He referred to the third watch. The night here seems to be split into three watches.

"If he comes in the second watch, or in the third, and finds them awake, blessed are those servants!​

So, long story short, what ever might happen now, I think it's going to be from the middle weekend of November until the last day of the year, which coincidentally will begin a count of 371 days until the "darkened" sun. 420 minus seven weeks or 49 days gives us 371. That would be just like in the "days of Noah", or the same amount of time that he spent inside the ark. And this would also square with what Jesus said about our end time tribulation being the worst that the world has ever seen. "Such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be. So I don't think we should be expecting anything longer in duration than the approximate year that the people were in the ark.

Do you think the image that was blocked fits into the theory of it being the red dragon discussed in rev 12? I have come to no firm conclusion on any of this myself. I just find it interesting that this sign occurred, that not only there is what appears to be a dragon but also that it just so happened to be covered with a black box whether intentionally or through a glitch. Either way this is a lot of coincidences. And it is hard to deny how all these things mentioned in the bible seem to be coming together before our very eyes.

I don't know about that censored image, we will have to wait and see. I do think it seems fishy because it's right in the area of the sky that we're looking at. It's right where the dragon sign would be. I know that there's a whole lot of opinions and Dave Meade has made some new dates. What, if anything, happens will still have to line up with Scripture, especially that peace and safety part. Are the people praying, asking for peace and safety? Or are they celebrating the realization of peace and safety after a close call near miss. But then we fly right through the dragon's tail and a third of the trees are burnt up and all the green grass. Sudden destruction and they do not escape.

Here's a video that will help the worry warts dispel the doctored image from Google sky. This is the video that claims the image is a double exposure of Saturn. And the image is 30 years old, from 1983. And you won't get any older and you won't ever die. If there was anything there, it should have hit us by now. Right? Or else it's moving slow.

But in case the video is wrong, prepare your minds for ACTION:

“Stay dressed for action and keep your lamps burning, and be like men who are waiting for their master to come home from the wedding feast, so that they may open the door to him at once when he comes and knocks.​

 

[Goatee]

All hoax stuff and fantasy stories. People are willing to believe anything these days!

Stick to believing in Jesus alone.

 

[Dave Watchman]

All hoax stuff and fantasy stories. People are willing to believe anything these days!

Stick to believing in Jesus alone.

Are you talking about the great red dragon sign?

Or the video that dispels it?

Is it causing you to worry?

Are you worried about it?

I'm not worried because I know that if fire does fall from heaven, it won't be a natural shower of space debris. This comes from God and so it will be directed. Each small fragment will have it's target.

We could be out grinding at the mill and one will be taken, and the other will be left alive. During this initial outbreak of God's wrath, two could be lying in bed, one will be taken, the other left alive.

We are not appointed to wrath, but some are. And the end time tribulation is the time of wrath. That's what Gabriel told Daniel:

"I am going to tell you what will happen later in the time of wrath,
because the vision concerns the appointed time of the end.​

This is an example of a Hebrew couplet. The "appointed time of the end", is the equivalent to: "the time of wrath".

Here's another example:

"Lift up your heads, you gates;
be lifted up, you ancient doors,
that the King of glory may come in.​

"You gates", and "you ancient doors" are the same thing.

That the King of glory may come in.

 

[Goatee]

All hoax signs produced by people who love to inflict conspiracy to the world.

Just love God and be a good follower.

 

[Jipsah]

You seem glad Jesus didn't return.

I'm simply glad that when nothing happens, I'm willing to believe that nothing happened. My eschatology doesn't require me to imagine "signs" where none exist.

 

[fat wee robin]

You seem glad Jesus didn't return.

You seem glad Jesus didn't return.

Anglicans are a mostly cynical group .
Maybe we are not ready yet . Not all of us spend most of our time waiting for the end , there is plenty of work to do .

 

[Jipsah]

It looks to me like some of the naysayers are more worried about it than the rapture people who seem to be cheering it on.

Worried about what?

I don't know about that censored image

It's irrelevant. isn't it? As has been shown here, a great many pictures old and new, exist of that chunk of sky, if all else fails you can go out and look at it yourself. Nothing there. And in amy case, it would be impossible tp hide the effects of the gravity well of a planetary sized, never mind a dwarf star sized, object approaching the solar system. That isn't there either.

 

[Jipsah]

Anglicans are a mostly cynical group .

Not really. Skeptical, yes, cynical, not necessarily. And since up to this point 100% of predictions presenting a schedule of our Lord's return have proven to be false, we have very good reason to be skeptical of these new ones as well. Especially considering that they all use the Scripture as nothing more than a point of departure and then run in numerology and astrology and "feelings" and conspiracy stories to "prove" their predictions. If you set out to design an argument that looked nonsensical on its face you could hardly do better than that. So yeah, I'm not going to give away all my stuff and go sit on the mountaintop (well, unless I'm sitting in Dave's Modern Tavern on top of Monteagle Mountain sipping a cold one with some brother Anglicans) just because Google screwed up a picture.

Maybe we are not ready yet .

If we're ready to die then we're ready for our Lord's return. If we're not ready to die we need to get that way, because the Lord may not return next week, but we could sho nuff be stone dead before then. Nobody's guaranteed another heartbeat. I have a vivid memory of an old saint at a church in rural Tennessee pastored by a friend of mine who rejoiced in the knowledge that she would be alive at our Lord's return, which she know would come in 2000. She went on to her eternal reward in 2001. Requiescat in pacem.

Not all of us spend most of our time waiting for the end , there is plenty of work to do .

Hear hear!

 

[Rick Otto]

Alright it says its a glitch in the software. Thats fair and fine. Still given the location of what was blacked out and what it looks like i'll let you guys decide what this looks like to you. A lot of people believe it looks like a red dragon which we all know was talked about in revelation 12.

Heres what it looks like covered up

And this is what is behind the black box.

It's Rudolph the Red Nosed Dragon! Hate to see who and what's in the sleigh HE'S pullin'.
Yeah,... glitch and incompetence are totally plausible, but the placement co-inky drink...
How stupid am I, again?

 

[Radagast]

How stupid am I, again?

Since the thing only appears in infrared pictures taken in 1983, possibly you're a bit gullible.

 

[ImAllLikeOkWaitWat]

Since the thing only appears in infrared pictures taken in 1983, possibly you're a bit gullible.

Where did it go?

 

[Rick Otto]

Since the thing only appears in infrared pictures taken in 1983, possibly you're a bit gullible.

I have been so on more than one occaision, I must admit.

 

[Radagast]

Where did it go?

It was a double exposure of Saturn taken by the IRAS Satellite in 1983.

Saturn still exists, but has, of course, moved.

 

[ImAllLikeOkWaitWat]

It was a double exposure of Saturn taken by the IRAS Satellite in 1983.

Saturn still exists, but has, of course, moved.

Do they all look like red dragon demon thingys?

 

[Radagast]

Do they all look like red dragon demon thingys?

What do you mean "they all"? That doesn't seem to refer to anything I said

For pretty much any planet, if you take a black-and-white double exposure and colour it red, it will look like a "red dragon demon thingy."

And what's your issue, exactly?

• Do you not realise that the famous "red dragon demon thingy" was a colourised black-and-white picture (taken in the infared band)?
• Do you not realise that the "red dragon demon thingy" only appears in images taken by the IRAS space probe in 1983 (not in any recent pictures)?
• Do you not realise that the "red dragon demon thingy" is a double exposure of Saturn?

 

[ImAllLikeOkWaitWat]

What do you mean "they all"? That doesn't seem to refer to anything I said

For pretty much any planet, if you take a black-and-white double exposure and colour it red, it will look like a "red dragon demon thingy."

And what's your issue, exactly?

• Do you not realise that the famous "red dragon demon thingy" was a colourised black-and-white picture (taken in the infared band)?
• Do you not realise that the "red dragon demon thingy" only appears in images taken by the IRAS space probe in 1983 (not in any recent pictures)?
• Do you not realise that the "red dragon demon thingy" is a double exposure of Saturn?

I just find it interesting that it had 2 holes where you would expect eyes and the mouth/teeth are almost too precisely placed. If there are others that look like faces like that then that is very interesting. If they all have 2 holes were eyes would be expected and what looks like a mouth and teeth then I guess this is nothing.

 

[Radagast]

I just find it interesting that it had 2 holes where you would expect eyes

It's a double exposure of Saturn. Of course there are two bright spots. Of course two bright spots next to each other look like eyes. Here it is in the original black and white:

The "teeth" are also a result of multiple exposures being overlapped.

If they all have 2 holes were eyes would be expected

What is this "they all" you talk about?

And, I repeat:

• Do you not realise that the famous "red dragon demon thingy" was a colourised black-and-white picture (taken in the infared band)?
• Do you not realise that the "red dragon demon thingy" only appears in images taken by the IRAS space probe in 1983 (not in any recent pictures)?
• Do you not realise that the "red dragon demon thingy" is a double exposure of Saturn?

 

[ImAllLikeOkWaitWat]

What is this "they all" you talk about?

The "they all" is simply the other instances of this occurring. Or is this the only occurrence of this? What I am getting at is either there is nothing like this in the universe that we know of or there are plenty of these and if there are a lot of these in the universe do they all look like faces(Demonic faces I might add)? I have no agenda here btw, I am also learning a lot about the universe and I appreciate you taking the time to explain what exactly that image was because I couldn't have been the only person to look at that and be slightly alarmed to say the least.

 

[Radagast]

The "they all" is simply the other instances of this occurring.

Oh, I see.

Or is this the only occurrence of this? What I am getting at is either there is nothing like this in the universe that we know of or there are plenty of these

It's a multiple photographic exposure. It never existed in the universe. It existed inside a camera, but only way back in 1983.

I appreciate you taking the time to explain what exactly that image was because I couldn't have been the only person to look at that and be slightly alarmed to say the least.

In 1983 there was a space probe that took photographs of the whole sky using infrared light (you can't do that from the ground). During the months that it took photos, the planets moved, and so you get this double exposure of Saturn (other things moved too, but they didn't look as dramatic).

Because it was free, Google "borrowed" that 1983 imagery. That made people aware of it, even though it's 34 years old.

Nothing to be concerned about.

 

[ImAllLikeOkWaitWat]

It's a multiple photographic exposure. It never existed in the universe. It existed inside a camera, but only way back in 1983.



In 1983 there was a space probe that took photographs of the whole sky using infrared light (you can't do that from the ground). During the months that it took photos, the planets moved, and so you get this double exposure of Saturn (other things moved too, but they didn't look as dramatic).

Because it was free, Google "borrowed" that 1983 imagery. That made people aware of it, even though it's 34 years old.

Nothing to be concerned about.

Alright great thanks for clearing this up. Good stuff.