This is the question I have!

[Aaron112]

Very very wrong fairy tale. Do not trust whoever told you that!

 

[truthpls]

In case anyone's interested, here's a creation test I once made up:

1. Define Embedded Age.

I'll try this test

Embedded age is something natural thinkers thinks they sees in God's creation, due to interpreting it as NOT created.

2. Explain the difference between creatio ex nihilo and creatio ex materia; and give two examples of each.

Something from nothing. The stars and the world. The other one is something from something, like an atomic explosion, or pulling a rabbit out of a hat

3. Why is "heaven" singular in Genesis 1, but plural in Genesis 2?

There are different levels.

4. Eden in the Bible is known as __________ on a secular map.

We don't know. My guess is Israel (having relocated in plate movements since then) Of course some of the rivers or parts of them left today are in Iraq

5. Put the following in order that they appeared in the universe: whales, stars, trees, sun, land, sea, outer space.
6. What day was Adam created on?

Too easy, I agree with Gen 1

7. Was the universe created a closed system and, if not, what kind of energy did it run off of? if it was created open, what closed it?

I would guess closed, since the universe has limits, and is temporary

8. Describe terra aqua and what kind of water it consisted of and why.

Not sure what that means

9. Photosynthesis required light from the sun prior to the Fall. true or false?

Probably false at least if we mean as we know it today

10. Explain how a 24-hour day could transpire before the sun was created.

God lighting the world and hovering above

11. Explain the difference between "miracles" and "magic."

Miracles are real, magic is a trick

12. What literary device reconciles Genesis 1 and Genesis 2?

Remind us of the word

13. When discussing Creationism, why should one never let himself stray from Genesis 1 or 2?

I don't know. Creation is mentioned all over the bible.

14. What was the first object in the universe that had mass?

Earth

 

[truthpls]

Very very wrong fairy tale. Do not trust whoever told you that!

I told you that. I would think you would point out what was 'wrong'

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

In case anyone's interested, here's a creation test I once made up:

1. Define Embedded Age.
2. Explain the difference between creatio ex nihilo and creatio ex materia; and give two examples of each.
3. Why is "heaven" singular in Genesis 1, but plural in Genesis 2?
4. Eden in the Bible is known as __________ on a secular map.
5. Put the following in order that they appeared in the universe: whales, stars, trees, sun, land, sea, outer space.
6. What day was Adam created on?
7. Was the universe created a closed system and, if not, what kind of energy did it run off of? if it was created open, what closed it?
8. Describe terra aqua and what kind of water it consisted of and why.
9. Photosynthesis required light from the sun prior to the Fall. true or false?
10. Explain how a 24-hour day could transpire before the sun was created.
11. Explain the difference between "miracles" and "magic."
12. What literary device reconciles Genesis 1 and Genesis 2?
13. When discussing Creationism, why should one never let himself stray from Genesis 1 or 2?
14. What was the first object in the universe that had mass?

Yeah, no one cares for a test about your blasphemy.

 

[River Jordan]

They are.

You just don't know it.

There is only one stratum: Earth.

Genesis 1:10a And God called the dry land Earth;

Yeah, I suppose if you just pretend all that geology doesn't exist it makes everything much simpler. But I don't believe that's how God wants us to use the intellectual gifts He gave us.

 

[Aaron112]

Pride goeth before destruction.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Pride goeth before destruction.

And a haughty spirit before a fall.

What's your point?

 

[AV1611VET]

Yeah, I suppose if you just pretend all that geology doesn't exist it makes everything much simpler.

Is that what you heard me say?

But I don't believe that's how God wants us to use the intellectual gifts He gave us.

From AI Overview:

Based on current observations, the universe is considered to be incredibly "thin" in the sense that it is very close to being perfectly flat, meaning its density is very close to the "critical density" - roughly equivalent to just a few hydrogen atoms per cubic meter of space, making it extremely spread out across vast distances; this is based on our understanding of the observable universe, which is estimated to be around 93 billion light-years across.

I suppose AI Overview is pretending astronomy doesn't exist?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Is that what you heard me say?



From AI Overview:

Based on current observations, the universe is considered to be incredibly "thin" in the sense that it is very close to being perfectly flat, meaning its density is very close to the "critical density" - roughly equivalent to just a few hydrogen atoms per cubic meter of space, making it extremely spread out across vast distances; this is based on our understanding of the observable universe, which is estimated to be around 93 billion light-years across.

I suppose AI Overview is pretending astronomy doesn't exist?

That is the complete opposite of what you said.

 

[AV1611VET]

That is the complete opposite of what you said.

LOL

I say the earth is thin, AI Overview says the entire universe is thin, and that's saying "the complete opposite"???

River thinks I'm pretending geology doesn't exist.

Wow.

Do you guys even understand the point I'm making?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

LOL

I say the earth is thin, AI Overview says the entire universe is thin, and that's saying "the complete opposite"???

River thinks I'm pretending geology doesn't exist.

Wow.

Do you guys even understand the point I'm making?

The point you're making is that you don't care for reality. Only your own personal interpretation of the Bible matters.

 

[River Jordan]

Is that what you heard me say?

I saw you wave away all of the details, variability, and history of earth's geology by declaring it to be nothing more than "one stratum".

From AI Overview:

Based on current observations, the universe is considered to be incredibly "thin" in the sense that it is very close to being perfectly flat, meaning its density is very close to the "critical density" - roughly equivalent to just a few hydrogen atoms per cubic meter of space, making it extremely spread out across vast distances; this is based on our understanding of the observable universe, which is estimated to be around 93 billion light-years across.

I suppose AI Overview is pretending astronomy doesn't exist?

You're not making sense.

 

[AV1611VET]

The point you're making is that you don't care for reality. Only your own personal interpretation of the Bible matters.

Thanks for the QED.

 

[AV1611VET]

I saw you wave away all of the details, variability, and history of earth's geology by declaring it to be nothing more than "one stratum".


You're not making sense.

Would you know it if I did?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Thanks for the QED.

You demonstrate it every time you talk, buddy. Or type, rather.

 

[River Jordan]

Would you know it if I did?

Try it and we'll see.

 

[AV1611VET]

Try it and we'll see.

Thanks for the QED.

 

[Astrophile]

Inside those dust sized crystals is radioactive materials and daughter products.

Each Zircon actually yields two separate ages(that agree) because u-238 and u-235 have different daughter products of lead-204 and Pb-206. The current acceptable difference between the two ages is only 0.001%. Two different natural clocks that counted to the same time.

U-238 decays into Pb-206; U-235 decays into Pb-207. Pb-204 is not radiogenic

 

[Kylie]

Because academia "accordions out" the fossil layer timeline from 6000 years to millions of years.

Imagine a street that is one mile long.

Then, some map maker changes the scale to make the street look like it's one hundred miles long.

Now they have to account for only a few houses on that street, so they just call them "missing lots."

As one poster here is fond of saying:

The map is not the territory.

This doesn't explain how fossils of certain animals are found in such a narrow range, does it?

 

[timothyu]

Why would God, who is creating in His own space, do so in our space with time where days exist only. He isn't restricted to days, He just simply created them and we apply that as if He were limited like we are. When you are talking universe there is no sunrise, sun set. Neither did He create according to time zones. If He created it was total, not following a day around the planet. An age is something else altogether.