This generation

[Hammster]

Of course genos is a different word than genea. Who said otherwise? I have already shown you that the word interpreted "generation" is broader that you will acknowledge. Both the Greek words genos and genea refer to race - in this case the Jewish race. It means "this race" - as in "the successive members of a particular genealogy."

Because you are so sold on Preterism and the coming of Titus in AD70 you cannot think genea is anything other than 40 years. To others it can also mean an age or a race, all depending on the context.

Is it possible to translate it this way?


Truly I say to you, this race will not pass away until all these things take place.
— Matthew 24:34

 

[claninja]

Of course genos is a different word than genea. Who said otherwise? I have already shown you that the word interpreted "generation" is broader that you will acknowledge. Both the Greek words genos and genea refer to race - in this case the Jewish race. It means "this race" - as in "the successive members of a particular genealogy."

Because you are so sold on Preterism and the coming of Titus in AD70 you cannot think genea is anything other than 40 years. To others it can also mean an age or a race, all depending on the context.

What was the point of bringing up genos, if you know it’s a completely different word?

genea is never translated as a “race throughout history”

you do know the definition of “successive members of a genealogy” is when genea is plural, and not singular, right? As in 14 generationS from Abraham to David.

genea in Matthew 24:34 is NOT plural.

 

[sovereigngrace]

Is it possible to translate it this way?


Truly I say to you, this race will not pass away until all these things take place.
— Matthew 24:34

It can mean a generation, generations or a race of people. Many Bible students (including Preterists and Premillennialists) dive into Matthew 24 without recognizing the intro to Christ's comments in Matthew 23. There He talks about 2 events - AD70 and His climactic return at the end of time.

In Matthew 24:23-34, Jesus is talking about His future return (in answer to question 2) and what will proceed it: “Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before. Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.”

 

[claninja]

It can mean a generation, generations or a race of people. Many Bible students (including Preterists and Premillennialists) dive into Matthew 24 without recognizing the intro to Christ's comments in Matthew 23. There He talks about 2 events - AD70 and His climactic return at the end of time.

In Matthew 24:23-34, Jesus is talking about His future return (in answer to question 2) and what will proceed it: “Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before. Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.”

your interpretation is inconsistent.

On one hand you use scripture to interpret scripture when it comes to things like the armies surrounding Jerusalem being equivalent to the AOD. However, on the other hand, you argue the questions posed by the disciples are different questions.

Consistent interpretation would would be:

If armies surrounding Jerusalem =AOD

then

sign of your coming and end of the age = sign that they (temple destruction) will be fulfilled

 

[Hammster]

It can mean a generation, generations or a race of people. Many Bible students (including Preterists and Premillennialists) dive into Matthew 24 without recognizing the intro to Christ's comments in Matthew 23. There He talks about 2 events - AD70 and His climactic return at the end of time.

In Matthew 24:23-34, Jesus is talking about His future return (in answer to question 2) and what will proceed it: “Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before. Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.”

I’m not able to determine if this is a yes or no answer to my question.

 

[sovereigngrace]

your interpretation is inconsistent.

On one hand you use scripture to interpret scripture when it comes to things like the armies surrounding Jerusalem being equivalent to the AOD. However, on the other hand, you argue the questions posed by the disciples are different questions.

Consistent interpretation would would be:

If armies surrounding Jerusalem =AOD

then

sign of your coming and end of the age = sign that they (temple destruction) will be fulfilled

Preterists dive into Matthew 24 without recognizing the intro to Christ's comments in Matthew 23. There He talks about 2 events - AD70 and His climactic return at the end of time.

 

[Spiritual Jew]

As long as messengers were proclaiming the gospel, and people were saved, then that was satisfied. There’s nothing grammatically that states that every elect person must be gathered first.

Being gathered would be a strange way of referring to people being saved. I believe it's clearly the same event as what Paul described in 1 Thess 4:14-17 which means it's a gathering of the elect to Christ "in the air" when He returns. So, we'll just have to agree to disagree on this.

 

[Spiritual Jew]

The second advent isn’t in view in the OD.

Would you agree that Matthew 25 is part of the Olivet Discourse? It's not recorded in Mark 13 or Luke 21, but it seems to clearly be things that Jesus said after what He said in Matthew 24 rather than things He said on a separate occasion.

Anyway, if you agree that Matthew 25 is part of the OD, then can you explain how Matthew 25:31-46 is not a description of something that occurs at the second advent and how it could possibly already be fulfilled? Do you see Matthew 25:31-46 as being the same event as Revelation 20:11-15?

Scripture teaches that everyone will have to stand before Christ to give an account of themselves, right (Romans 14:10-12, 2 Cor 5:10, Acts 17:31)? When do you think that will happen?

 

[JosephZ]

Please address the evidence I presented that proves Jesus was asked and answered 2 questions.

There He talks about 2 events - AD70 and His climactic return at the end of time.

How could the disciples be asking about Jesus' return at the end of time when they didn't know He was going anywhere? They had no concept of a "second coming" when those questions were asked. Based on what they had learned from the prophets, the coming Messiah was to pass judgement on the Nation of Israel and establish His kingdom. Since the disciples had no expectations of a second coming, the questions they asked had to revolve around the coming judgment on Israel, the destruction of the temple, and Jesus establishing His kingdom as a combined event.

 

[Hammster]

Preterists dive into Matthew 24 without recognizing the intro to Christ's comments in Matthew 23. There He talks about 2 events - AD70 and His climactic return at the end of time.

He does talk about what “this generation” will see. And actually, His comments really go back to chapter 21.

 

[Spiritual Jew]

The evidence is irrelevant because the point of the parable of the fig tree was that the same generation that saw the Abomination of Desolation, is the same generation that'd see the Second Coming.

Did the Second Coming happen in 70AD? Is that the evidence you were trying to provide?
Because as far as I know, you believe in a future Second Coming.

Without the Second Coming, whatever you believe the Great Tribulation to have been, is not it, because it goes against what Jesus said about the timing being within one generation.

Jesus did not say that all of the things He talked about had to occur within one generation. That is not at all what Matthew 24:34 means. He only pointed out that "this generation" would not pass away until all those things were fulfilled. That means no matter how long it would take for all the things He talked about to happen, "this generation" would not pass away until all of those things happened first.

Some of the things He talked about happened around 70 AD like the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple buildings. Some have been ongoing for a long time (earthquakes, wars, famines, etc.) and some maybe only more recently started happening (increase in wickedness, false Christs appearing) and some will happen in the future (Christ's return, the gathering of the elect, heaven and earth passing away, the judgment, etc.).

 

[Hammster]

Would you agree that Matthew 25 is part of the Olivet Discourse? It's not recorded in Mark 13 or Luke 21, but it seems to clearly be things that Jesus said after what He said in Matthew 24 rather than things He said on a separate occasion.

Anyway, if you agree that Matthew 25 is part of the OD, then can you explain how Matthew 25:31-46 is not a description of something that occurs at the second advent and how it could possibly already be fulfilled? Do you see Matthew 25:31-46 as being the same event as Revelation 20:11-15?

Scripture teaches that everyone will have to stand before Christ to give an account of themselves, right (Romans 14:10-12, 2 Cor 5:10, Acts 17:31)? When do you think that will happen?

I should have been more specific, and I apologize. The second advent isn’t in view concerning the “things” that generation would see.

 

[JosephZ]

Jesus did not say that all of the things He talked about had to occur within one generation. That is not at all what Matthew 24:34 means. He only pointed out that "this generation" would not pass away until all those things were fulfilled. That means no matter how long it would take for all the things He talked about to happen, "this generation" would not pass away until all of those things happened first.

The consensus is pretty strong that the use of the term generation in Matthew 24:34 refers to those alive at the time.

Thayer's Greek Lexicon
STRONGS NT 1074: γενεά

γενεά, γενεάς, ἡ (ΓΑΝΩ, γίνομαι (crf. Curtius, p. 610)); the Sept. often for דּור; in Greek writings from Homer down;
1. a begetting, birth, nativity: Herodotus 3, 33; Xenophon, Cyril 1, 2, 8, etc.; (others make the collective sense the primary significance, see Curtius as above).

2. passively, that which has been begotten, men of the same stock, a family;

a. properly, as early as Homer; equivalent to מִשְׁפָּחַה, Genesis 31:3, etc. σῴζειν Ρ᾽αχαβην καί τήν γενεάν αὐτῆς, Josephus, Antiquities 5, 1, 5. the several ranks in a natural descent, the successive members of a genealogy: Matthew 1:17 (ἑβδόμῃ γενεά οὗτος ἐστιν ἀπό τοῦ πρώτου, Philo, vit. Moys. i. § 2).

b. metaphorically, a race of men very like each other in endowments, pursuits, character; and especially in a bad sense a perverse race: Matthew 17:17; Mark 9:19; Luke 9:41; Luke 16:8; (Acts 2:40).

3. the whole multitude of men living at the same time: Matthew 24:34; Mark 13:30; Luke 1:48 (πᾶσαι αἱ γενεαί); ; Philippians 2:15; used especially of the Jewish race living at one and the same period: Matthew 11:16; Matthew 12:39, 41f, 45; Matthew 16:4; Matthew 23:36; Mark 8:12, 38; Luke 11:29f, 32, 50; Luke 17:25; Acts 13:36; Hebrews 3:10; ἄνθρωποι τῆς γενεάς ταύτης, Luke 7:31; ἄνδρες τῆς γενεάς ταύτης, Luke 11:31; τήν δέ γενεάν αὐτοῦ τίς διηγήσεται, who can describe the wickedness of the present generation, Acts 8:33 (from Isaiah 53:8 the Sept.) (but cf. Meyer, at the passage).

Some commentaries on Matthew 24:34:

Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers
(34) This generation shall not pass . . .—The natural meaning of the words is, beyond question. that which takes “generation” in the ordinary sense (as in Matthew 1:17, Acts 13:36, and elsewhere) for those who are living at any given period. So it was on “this generation” (Matthew 23:36) that the accumulated judgments were to fall.

Barnes' Notes on the Bible
This generation ... - This age; this race of people. A generation is about 30 or 40 years. The destruction of Jerusalem took place about forty years after this was spoken.

Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible
Verily I say unto you, this generation shall not pass,.... Not the generation of men in general; as if the sense was, that mankind should not cease, until the accomplishment of these things; nor the generation, or people of the Jews, who should continue to be a people, until all were fulfilled; nor the generation of Christians; as if the meaning was, that there should be always a set of Christians, or believers in Christ in the world, until all these events came to pass; but it respects that present age, or generation of men then living in it; and the sense is, that all the men of that age should not die, but some should live.

Geneva Study Bible
Verily I say unto you, This {t} generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
(t) This age: the word generation or age is here being used for the men of this age.

Expositor's Greek Testament
Matthew 24:34 Solemn assurance that the predicted will come to pass.—πάντα ταῦτα is most naturally taken to mean the same things as in Matthew 24:33, he main subject of the discourse, the impending destruction of the Jewish state. Jesus was quite certain that they would happen within the then living generation (ἡ γενεὰ αὕτη), not merely through miraculous foresight but through clear insight into the moral forces at work.

Bengel's Gnomen
Matthew 24:34. Γενεὰ, generation) sc. an age of men. This notion, which agrees with the event, corresponds most properly with the question, when? etc., proposed in ver, 3; cf. Matthew 24:15; Matthew 24:20, ch. Matthew 23:36; Luke 23:38. From the date of this prediction to the destruction of Jerusalem was a space of forty years, and from the true year of our Lord’s nativity to that event was a space of about seventy-five years. The Jews, however (as, for example, in Seder Olam), reckon seventy-five years as one generation, and the words, οὐ μὴ παρέλθῃ, “shall not pass away,” intimate that the greater part of that generation, but not the whole of it, should have passed away before all the events indicated should have come to pass. The prediction is true with respect to either the forty or the seventy-five years.[1062] So accurately did the Evangelist describe it many years before the event took place.

 

[Spiritual Jew]

No, the nation of Israel didn’t not exist yet. However, that is a completely Irrelevant question to my argument. The first century Jews also didn’t persecute the and kill the prophets whom their fathers killed.

Your question completely ignores vs 32. Do you know what it means to “fill up then the sin of your fathers”?

Matthew 23:32 32Fill up, then,g the measure of the sin of your fathers.

In case you didn’t read it, I’ll post again, what “to fill up up then the sins of your fathers” means.

Ellicots commentary on Matthew 23:32.
“Fill ye up then . . .—The English fails to give the pathetic abruptness of the original: And ye—fill ye up the measure of your fathers. The thought implied is that which we find in Genesis 15:16, and of which the history of the world offers but too many illustrations. Each generation, as it passes, adds something to the ever-accumulating mass of evil. At last the penalty falls, as though the long-suffering of God had been waiting till the appointed limit had been reached, and the measure of iniquity was at last full.”

the appointed time fell on the generation that murdered the son of God. 70ad is evidence of that. It such an important event, because it vindicated Christ as a true.

Why are preterists “obsessed” with 70ad? Because Christ prophesied about it often and it came TRUE.

“21You may ask in your heart, “How can we recognize a message that the LORD has not spoken?” 22When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD and the message does not come to pass or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. The prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.”


Edit.

I would like to add this. Jesus literally says “upon you”. This is further evidence that the Pharisees’ generation would pay the penalty for filling up the measure of their fathers sins

“35And so upon you will come all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36Truly I tell you, all these things will come upon this generation.”

You are not getting what I'm saying. I know that they (the first century Jewish scribes and Pharisees) were destroyed in 70 AD (if they were still alive), but when Jesus referred to them as "this generation" He was referring to a type of people. Wicked and adulterous. Cain was that type of person. That's why even the death of Abel is mentioned because Jesus had a type of person in mind (wicked and adulterous) rather than a chronological generation of Jews. This is the last I'm going to say on that. If you can't understand my point then there's nothing I can do about it. You think He was referring to a chronological generation of Jews of a duration of 40 years and that's how you interpret the Greek word "genea". I don't. So be it.

They were responsible for all the “righteous” blood shed. How is Able “righteous” without Christ?

I don't understand why you would ask this question.

Matthew 23:35 And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.

Did you somehow miss this verse? Jesus called Abel righteous. Is that somehow not enough for you?

when does Christ sit on the throne? Ascension or 2nd coming?

He sat on His throne at the ascension, but He has yet to sit on His throne to judge all people. Scripture teaches that all people will stand before Christ to be judged and to give an account of themselves (Romans 14:10-12, 2 Cor 5:10). Do you think that has already happened? If so, how? Have you already stood before Him to give an account of yourself? I know you haven't. Neither have I. So, it clearly has not yet happened. So, it seems obvious to me that Matthew 25:31-46 is portraying the judgment of all people when they will stand before Him to give an account of themselves which clearly has not yet occurred.

 

[Spiritual Jew]

I should have been more specific, and I apologize. The second advent isn’t in view concerning the “things” that generation would see.

So, the coming of the Son of man referenced in Matthew 25 is somehow a different coming of the Son of man than the coming of the Son of man referenced in Matthew 24:27-31? That doesn't make any sense to me.

 

[Hammster]

So, the coming of the Son of man referenced in Matthew 25 is somehow a different coming of the Son of man than the coming of the Son of man referenced in Matthew 24:27-31? That doesn't make any sense to me.

I’d like to stay within the scope of the OP. All of us have a tendency to stray in these threads. I’m actually surprised we’ve done do well here.

 

[Spiritual Jew]

your interpretation is inconsistent.

On one hand you use scripture to interpret scripture when it comes to things like the armies surrounding Jerusalem being equivalent to the AOD. However, on the other hand, you argue the questions posed by the disciples are different questions.

Consistent interpretation would would be:

If armies surrounding Jerusalem =AOD

then

sign of your coming and end of the age = sign that they (temple destruction) will be fulfilled

There's one major problem with what you're saying here. There wasn't any age that ended in 70 AD. You and other preterists here have been shown many times the proper understanding of when the old covenant came to an end, which was not in 70 AD. If you want to be stubborn and not acknowledge that the blood of Christ not only established the new covenant but also put an end to the old covenant (Col 2:13-14) then that's your choice.

The end of the age refers to the end of this temporal age that we're still living in. Jesus clearly differentiated between "this age" and "the age to come" here and it had nothing to do with a supposed old covenant age and new covenant age:

Luke 20:34 Jesus replied, “The people of this age marry and are given in marriage. 35 But those who are considered worthy of taking part in the age to come and in the resurrection from the dead will neither marry nor be given in marriage, 36 and they can no longer die; for they are like the angels. They are God’s children, since they are children of the resurrection.

So, what Jesus pointed out here is that this age is marked by people getting married and dying. People are still getting married and dying, so this age has clearly not yet ended. In contrast to that, Jesus said in the age to come, which He indicated will begin when the resurrection of the dead occurs, people will no longer get married or die. The resurrection of the dead has clearly not yet occurred and people are still getting married and dying. So, the end of the age has not yet come. We need to keep this in mind when thinking about how Jesus answered the question regarding His coming and the end of the age.

In 2 Peter 3, it's clear that heaven and earth will pass away when He comes in the future. And the new heavens and new earth will be ushered in at that time. And there will be no more death at that time (Rev 21:4) which will be at the end of the age. That lines up perfectly with what Jesus said in Matthew 24:35-39 which is that heaven and earth will pass away and His coming will bring about the destruction of all unbelievers just like how the flood killed all unbelievers in Noah's day. That clearly has not yet happened.

 

[Spiritual Jew]

I’d like to stay within the scope of the OP. All of us have a tendency to stray in these threads. I’m actually surprised we’ve done do well here.

I believe what I said is within the scope of the OP because you can't understand what "this generation" means without understanding what the rest of the Olivet Discourse means. You establish context by looking at the Olivet Discourse as a whole. If the coming of the Son of man in Matthew 25 is the same coming of the Son of man in Matthew 24:27-31 then that says a lot about how we should understand what "this generation" means.

 

[Spiritual Jew]

The consensus is pretty strong that the use of the term generation in Matthew 24:34 refers to those alive at the time.

Thayer's Greek Lexicon
STRONGS NT 1074: γενεά

γενεά, γενεάς, ἡ (ΓΑΝΩ, γίνομαι (crf. Curtius, p. 610)); the Sept. often for דּור; in Greek writings from Homer down;
1. a begetting, birth, nativity: Herodotus 3, 33; Xenophon, Cyril 1, 2, 8, etc.; (others make the collective sense the primary significance, see Curtius as above).

2. passively, that which has been begotten, men of the same stock, a family;

a. properly, as early as Homer; equivalent to מִשְׁפָּחַה, Genesis 31:3, etc. σῴζειν Ρ᾽αχαβην καί τήν γενεάν αὐτῆς, Josephus, Antiquities 5, 1, 5. the several ranks in a natural descent, the successive members of a genealogy: Matthew 1:17 (ἑβδόμῃ γενεά οὗτος ἐστιν ἀπό τοῦ πρώτου, Philo, vit. Moys. i. § 2).

b. metaphorically, a race of men very like each other in endowments, pursuits, character; and especially in a bad sense a perverse race: Matthew 17:17; Mark 9:19; Luke 9:41; Luke 16:8; (Acts 2:40).

3. the whole multitude of men living at the same time: Matthew 24:34; Mark 13:30; Luke 1:48 (πᾶσαι αἱ γενεαί); ; Philippians 2:15; used especially of the Jewish race living at one and the same period: Matthew 11:16; Matthew 12:39, 41f, 45; Matthew 16:4; Matthew 23:36; Mark 8:12, 38; Luke 11:29f, 32, 50; Luke 17:25; Acts 13:36; Hebrews 3:10; ἄνθρωποι τῆς γενεάς ταύτης, Luke 7:31; ἄνδρες τῆς γενεάς ταύτης, Luke 11:31; τήν δέ γενεάν αὐτοῦ τίς διηγήσεται, who can describe the wickedness of the present generation, Acts 8:33 (from Isaiah 53:8 the Sept.) (but cf. Meyer, at the passage).

Some commentaries on Matthew 24:34:

Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers
(34) This generation shall not pass . . .—The natural meaning of the words is, beyond question. that which takes “generation” in the ordinary sense (as in Matthew 1:17, Acts 13:36, and elsewhere) for those who are living at any given period. So it was on “this generation” (Matthew 23:36) that the accumulated judgments were to fall.

Barnes' Notes on the Bible
This generation ... - This age; this race of people. A generation is about 30 or 40 years. The destruction of Jerusalem took place about forty years after this was spoken.

Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible
Verily I say unto you, this generation shall not pass,.... Not the generation of men in general; as if the sense was, that mankind should not cease, until the accomplishment of these things; nor the generation, or people of the Jews, who should continue to be a people, until all were fulfilled; nor the generation of Christians; as if the meaning was, that there should be always a set of Christians, or believers in Christ in the world, until all these events came to pass; but it respects that present age, or generation of men then living in it; and the sense is, that all the men of that age should not die, but some should live.

Geneva Study Bible
Verily I say unto you, This {t} generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
(t) This age: the word generation or age is here being used for the men of this age.

Expositor's Greek Testament
Matthew 24:34 Solemn assurance that the predicted will come to pass.—πάντα ταῦτα is most naturally taken to mean the same things as in Matthew 24:33, he main subject of the discourse, the impending destruction of the Jewish state. Jesus was quite certain that they would happen within the then living generation (ἡ γενεὰ αὕτη), not merely through miraculous foresight but through clear insight into the moral forces at work.

Bengel's Gnomen
Matthew 24:34. Γενεὰ, generation) sc. an age of men. This notion, which agrees with the event, corresponds most properly with the question, when? etc., proposed in ver, 3; cf. Matthew 24:15; Matthew 24:20, ch. Matthew 23:36; Luke 23:38. From the date of this prediction to the destruction of Jerusalem was a space of forty years, and from the true year of our Lord’s nativity to that event was a space of about seventy-five years. The Jews, however (as, for example, in Seder Olam), reckon seventy-five years as one generation, and the words, οὐ μὴ παρέλθῃ, “shall not pass away,” intimate that the greater part of that generation, but not the whole of it, should have passed away before all the events indicated should have come to pass. The prediction is true with respect to either the forty or the seventy-five years.[1062] So accurately did the Evangelist describe it many years before the event took place.

LOL. You highlight one of multiple definitions of the word and you quote six people and that is a "pretty strong" consensus? Okay.

 

[claninja]

Preterists dive into Matthew 24 without recognizing the intro to Christ's comments in Matthew 23. There He talks about 2 events - AD70 and His climactic return at the end of time.

this doesn’t address the inconsistency. If you believe likes “armies surrounding Jerusalem” help us understand matthew and marks “AOD”, why wouldn’t you do the same with the disciples questions? IOW, why doesn’t mark and Luke’s “sign that these things will be fulfilled” = matthew’s “sign of your coming and end of the age”?