This forum is now officially a Christian Only forum!!!!

[pgp_protector]

Have you considered that people may be deceptively using faith icons?

I think this is true because I have seen people using Christian icons who clearly reject the Bible and its teaching. That is a problem.

The bible & it's teaching or just your [edit] interpretation of them ?

 

[Brennin]

The bible & it's teaching or just your [edit] interpretation of them ?

All of the above.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Have you considered that people may be deceptively using faith icons?

I think this is true because I have seen people using Christian icons who clearly reject the Bible and its teaching. That is a problem.

Believing that one's interpretations of "the Bible and its teaching" constitute an objective and perfect measure of THE Bible and ITS teaching by which one may assess whether ANOTHER actually REJECTS THE Bible and ITS teaching when he rejects the judging party's interpretation thereof? THAT would be the REAL problem.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

My experience is these things start to really heat up on Sunday nights. So I'll go with about 45 hours.

Have you considered that people may be deceptively using faith icons?

I think this is true because I have seen people using Christian icons who clearly reject the Bible and its teaching. That is a problem.

Well CaDan, 4.5 minutes .... you at least had the numbers right, if the measurements wrong!

 

[pgp_protector]

Well CaDan, 4.5 minutes .... you at least had the numbers right, if the measurements wrong!

Well I did say or less


(Just didn't think it would be that fast )

 

[KCKID]

Have you considered that people may be deceptively using faith icons?

I think this is true because I have seen people using Christian icons who clearly reject the Bible and its teaching. That is a problem.

Well, I've stated a number of times that the teachings of Jesus Christ appeal to me and I'd like to think that my lifestyle is indicative of that to the best of my ability. The nonChristians who know me as 'a Christian' don't question my Christianity. Some of my workmates even light-heartedly tease me about it. Christians might question my Christianity, however. It isn't so much that I 'reject' the Bible but I DO believe that the Bible was written by people who may or may not have been inspired by God. I have no way of knowing whether they were inspired by God or not and nor does anyone else. It's not a sin to 'not know', even though some Christians would prefer that 'not knowing' and even 'questioning' is to be seen as being 'a sin'.

I DO know that there is a great deal of 'human' element in the Bible involving culture, tradition, taboos, superstitions, etc. And why not? They were PEOPLE, for crying out loud! Not recognizing this as fact is foolhardy in my opinion. The actual scriptures were canonized by men also. Are we to believe that these people were ALSO supposed to have been inspired by God to put everything into the right place, complete with 'Anglicized' interpretations, and all? This, to me, seems to be stretching 'faith' to its absolute limits.

As far as I know Jesus never asked that we make an icon out of the Bible. Just because many Christians do so - and many DO - is another matter that doesn't interest me. I'm a follower of Jesus. On the issue of homosexuality I am following the example of Jesus by not throwing stones at others. That others continually do so really appalls me and I would have to question their Christianity ...especially in instances where it's done with a degree of malice. Jesus breathed nary a word about homosexuality and, as a follower of Jesus, nor do I. Now, we have this ruling from 'the wise ones' on the forum that I find to be one of the most blatant examples of 'unChrist-like' from professed Christians that I've come across. Only those with Christian icons need apply . . .? What next, for God's sake?

Hentenza. Sleep well.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Anyone want to take bids on how long it will be before posts in this thread start vanishing and/or thread gets locked?

 

[pgp_protector]

Anyone want to take bids on how long it will be before posts in this thread start vanishing and/or thread gets locked?

Is it time to start saving pages to the local folder again ?

 

[icedtea]

Well I did say or less


(Just didn't think it would be that fast )

Hey! Thats MY onionhead! huff

 

[icedtea]

they scratch at the same time! LOL its poetic

 

[Criada]

 

[HaloHope]

Pfft I can't say I'm surprised. Certain individuals seem to labour under the delusion they can stick their fingers in their ears go "la-la-la other points of view don't exist" and go merrily on their way.

This rule change makes me sick.

 

[kiwimac]

Ah and so it begins again. This policy is wrong right at the base. It denigrates the opinions of Non-Christians and makes it impossible to hear the Spirit of Truth quietly speaking to us because we have in our arrogance decided that ONLY christians speak with that voice.

I oppose this policy as I opposed it when it was in an earlier form.

 

[bubblefish]

Can't say I am surprised by this.. I was just hoping it wouldn't happen quite so fast!

 

[D.W.Washburn]

Non-Christians are still welcome in the outreach area.

Or "The Court of the Gentiles" as some may call it.

 

[FundamentalistJohn]

Hi All,

The management of this site has decided that all Theology forums including this forum are now Christian only forums. What that means is that only members that have selected a Christian icon are permitted to post in any of the Christian theology forums. All members that have not chosen a Christian icon can not post in Christian Theology. All non Christian posts in these forums will be deleted by the theology moderating team and a notice will be issued.

Blessings,
Hentenza
Theology Administrator

Excellent move.

 

[OllieFranz]

How / What is this sites definition for "Christian" ???

Well according to the FAQ:

Statement of Faith This is the basis of which our non-promotion rule is based upon, and is the baseline for forum-specific guidelines. An individual forum may use the Nicene Creed without asterisks, a confession of faith, or other statements, provided such is an expansion of the CF statement of faith. However, forum-specific guidelines must not conflict with the CF Statement of Faith.

CF supports the following as a statement of faith:

We worship one God, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob (Isaiah 44:6-8; Exodus 3:15). God is three divine persons, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, who share one essence--the Trinity (John 6:27; John 1:1, 14; Romans 8:9; Hebrews 1:2-3).

Our Lord, God and Savior, Jesus Christ, the incarnate second person of the Holy Trinity, fully God and fully man (John 1:1, 14), by the Power of the Holy Spirit was born of a Virgin (Luke 1:35) and existed before all time begotten of God the Father (John 1:2; John 1:18). He was crucified for our sins, died, was buried, resurrected on the third day (1 Corinthians 15:3-4) and is seated at the right hand of the Father (Mark 16:19). Jesus is the Christ, the Messiah (John 1:49; Matthew 16:16). His coming was foretold by the prophets of the Old Testament (Acts 3:18-23). He shall come again with glory to judge the living and the dead (Acts 10:42) and His Kingdom will have no end (2 Peter 1:11).
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Nothing about worshipping the "literal" interpretation of English translations of the Bible. Yet.

Have you considered that people may be deceptively using faith icons?

I think this is true because I have seen people using Christian icons who clearly reject the Bible and its teaching. That is a problem.

Funny, I don't see "Interpreting the Bible exactly the way Dogbean, brightmorningstar, and a select few other posters do, and worshiping it even above the Indwelling Presence of the Living God" as one of the guidelines above.

Most of the posters that you say are "deceptively" using faith icons (a statement that until very recently was in blatant violation of one of the forum rules*) do match the official CF statement of faith, or they would not have chosen to post here as Christians. The atheists and agnostics, Buddhists pagans and other non-Christians here have been open and honest -- as honest as if not more honest than certain self-righteous Christians.

*The rule against claiming that other posters, who say that they are Christian, according to the CF statement of Faith, are not Christians has been secretly deleted!!!! It is no longer against the rules to spew hatred and venom, as long as its "Christian" hatred and venom. After checking the FAQ in order to accurately quote the rule, I find I have to add the disclaimer in red to the statement above.

 

[Polycarp1]

It might be worth noting that Brennin, who is a devout and scholarly (if occasionally acerbic) individual steadfast for the 'anti-homosexuality' side of these debates, would, under the 'witchhunt' standards that were practiced in connection with the previous implementation of this rule, have been banned from posting here as a heretic -- though a devout Christian, he is not Nicene but Arian in his Christology. I'm a devout Episcopalian who stands by my church's teachings on inclusiveness and acceptance, and argues vehemently with those who think that the Scriptural strictures often cited here warrant the condemnation of our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters. To exclude either of us as "not true Christians" based on our theology would IMO be contrary to what this site's purpose has been.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Excellent move.

Sure, if you approve of sticking your fingers in your ears and going "la la la, other points of view don't exist and we don't need to understand them even in order to witness effectively (say nothing of just being a decent human being in general)."

Not an excellent move, not even remotely. Why don't those who want this kind of pointless self-congratulatory insularism just go make their own board and call it "True Christians (TM) Excluding Everyone Else from the Foot of the Cross?" You could even have a nifty acronym with that. TCEEEFC. Has a nice ring to it don'tcha think?

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Nothing about worshipping the "literal" interpretation of English translations of the Bible. Yet.

Key word in bold...

Funny, I don't see "Interpreting the Bible exactly the way Dogbean, brightmorningstar, and a select few other posters do, and worshiping it even above the Indwelling Presence of the Living God" as one of the guidelines above.

Give it time. Either they'll be made into Supermods stat, or you can swap out their names in the above statement for a few others that come to mind.

Most of the posters that you say are "deceptively" using faith icons (a statement that until very recently was in blatant violation of one of the forum rules*) do match the official CF statement of faith, or they would not have chosen to post here as Christians. The atheists and agnostics, Buddhists pagans and other non-Christians here have been open and honest -- as honest as if not more honest than certain self-righteous Christians.

*The rule against claiming that other posters, who say that they are Christian, according to the CF statement of Faith, are not Christians has been secretly deleted!!!! It is no longer against the rules to spew hatred and venom, as long as its "Christian" hatred and venom. After checking the FAQ in order to accurately quote the rule, I find I have to add the disclaimer in red to the statement above.

Great. Why should we be surprised, again?

The cumulative effect of this whole charade (once it finishes playing out to its bitter end of icon-witchhunts and kangaroo-court heresy-inquisitions) will be, of course, that no one posting on CF will take it seriously anymore. Already finding it hard to, in fact ... which will probably ironically alter daimonizomai's posting style so drastically that it will never end up qualifying for that perma-ban some have been just dancing in their pants frenetically wanting to give it.

And just where will all these Perfectly Obedient Never Sinning Xtians get their next bundle-o-sticks (you know what we mean!) for the fires of condemnation once they have driven all the undesirables out of the cyber-temple, hmmmm? They will have to start ripping into one another. That will be interesting to watch.