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Now I know who to ask should we find ourselves in Chicago and the Cubs are at home.He gets tickets for free from a guy at work
Ah, we will take your word for it. You don't have to use scripture to prove it.You are among friends here.
Now I know who to ask should we find ourselves in Chicago and the Cubs are at home.
I was in a discussion today and actually defended RC against non-denoms and their declaration that they don't need no stinking creeds or doctrine or anything else penned by man. They only need their Bibles. Mind you this was AFTER numerous attempts at getting them to understand that catholic was not synonymous with Roman Catholic. Ugh!I was just at the EO's forum right before I posted that statementThat's pretty much one of the reasons I felt compelled to say it LOL
How do non-denoms keep track of their beliefs. maybe I didn't word that very well, but you know what I mean, right?What truly amazes me is that those who reject the creeds don't realize that they come right out of Scripture. Not verbatim, but they are exactly what the Scriptures teach.
"Show me where it says I need to believe in some creed or take catachizm (sic) or whatever in the Bible. If it's not in the Bible, I refuse to accept I need it because some man told me so."
They just say what they believe is in the Bible. Like a broken record.
This guy had no idea what Creeds I referred to, what catechism is, or what the Sacrament of the Altar is....but he believes everything just as the Bible states it. It's all about Jesus.
He was very defensive yet made our point with every post and of course it got personal. "I don't need your catholic practices for salvation. The Bible says nothing about the catholic church."Yet, WE are the close-minded ones.
I'd just agree with him. "What we believe is in the Bible, too. Sola Scriptura. The creeds and the catechsim just help us explain what the Bible says."
Now, I know they won't buy it, but it's still the truth.
What they simply don't realize is everything the Lutheran Church practices and teaches is what the Apostle's practiced and taught. They (non-denoms) are the ones who have changed the teachings of the Bible.
(Tell then that... and then run!)
I once had a Baptist friend (interesting, I just misspelled that as "fiend") tell me that she'd be praying for me 'cause I "used the wrong Bible".
I was confused so I asked "huh? What do you mean 'wrong Bible?"
She said "well that isn't the Bible that God uses. He only uses the KJV 1611."
"Oh," says I, "I guess all of those people in France, Germany and other non English speaking foreign countries are just wasting their time reading the Bible in their own languages then right? God's just going to damn them to Hell 'cause they can't read English huh? Man, it must suck to be them." (why yes, I am a bit sarcastic when confronted with utter...well...stupidity.)
To which she had no comment. But she'd remind me almost weekly that she was praying that I'd "see the light" and "come back to the true Word."
*sigh*
Kae
I once had a Baptist friend (interesting, I just misspelled that as "fiend") tell me that she'd be praying for me 'cause I "used the wrong Bible".
I was confused so I asked "huh? What do you mean 'wrong Bible?"
She said "well that isn't the Bible that God uses. He only uses the KJV 1611."
Does she pray for you or thou?
You know what they say... "If it was good enough for John the Baptist, it's good enough for me."
Now don't go and confuse things with Law and Gospel. After all, we only need to hear the Gospel once every, oh, 5 years or so. And the Law well, since we are saved, we don't sin anymore so who needs the Law? Yet, we need to live right.
Am I leaving anything out? Grrr!!!
Yeppers! Reading Romans...ALL of Romans, was my parting assignment for those who claimed to be Bible Christians..., but not catholic. Okie Dokie then.Oh, I don't know...
...maybe the Book of Romans?
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